Neno, I left you some information on the other forum that might enlighten your path :)
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03-04-2007, 12:27 AM #21
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From Back Office Forum. April 15th around the Corner.
This has been ask if it could be shared. Please Read and Pre-Register Down Below. OffShore Privacy Club.
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06-04-2007, 02:40 AM #24
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10 More Days, But Maybe Sooner
And I go Private as well. So get Pre-Registered. This one from what I read and Seeing in the Back Office forum, while it is Open to the Public, looks to be very Promising. Cost you nothing to Pre-Register and see for your self. I will post for these last days to remind all, then I am gone Private too.
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07-04-2007, 03:29 AM #25
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07-04-2007, 03:33 AM #26
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Matching Bonuses if you share it with others
That is absolutely correct.
Matching bonuses are paid to diamond members only.
The percentage of match depends on the number of personally sponsored people.
If you are a diamond member and personally sponsor 5 people, you get a bonus monthly equal to 10% of those 5 peoples monthly matrix paycheck.
Sponsor 15 and get 15%
Sponsor 30 and get 20%
Sponsor 30 who are each making an average of $1000 per month.
Your bonus on each would be $200 per month
Times 30 = $6000 per month
P.S. At that point, your matrix monthly paycheck would be in excess of $30,000 per month. So what if it takes 5 years to get to that point.
But remember, you must initially join as a diamond member to be elegible for matching bonuses.
P.S. These are just 2 of the multiple income streams that will be available in GWBOPC.
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08-04-2007, 09:23 PM #27
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Not the Welcome letter I use, but one for anyone that wants to use.
The company sends out a very nice welcome letter, as if it came from you, but I personally like to send an additional letter, something like this..but I adjust it slightly to fit whomever I'm writing to (I also do 3-way calling to help and teach new members):
Welcome to Global Wealth Builders Offshore Privacy Club, (their name)!
All 500 of the Fortune 500 Companies are offshore. 400,000 Corporations are offshore.
Now we have an opportunity to "play" with the big boys!
I'm so happy you got in this early, because GWBOPC will be a 3 X 10 forced Matrix , with Matching Bonuses. Paid members will be placed in a 3x10 FORCED Matrix, meaning a person can only have 3 on their first level, #4 or more will spill down to help someone below the first three.
While the exact monthly membership fees are still in the process of being finalized, they will be in the range of $0.65 - $1.00 per day range ($20.00 - $30.00 per month), so membership dues will be very reasonable when they allow us to actually join.
At the present growth rate of registrants, even if only 10% actually join, our first payments could be substantial. We'll also get a Fast Start Bonus on all our personally sponsored members.
I think it's important to set goals. But make your goal realistic for you. There's a fine line between encouragement and discouragement...if you set your goal too high, it could be discouraging, rather than encouraging. If you are new to networking why not set your goal to personally sponsor 3 people. When you have achieved that goal, set another "achievable" goal.
Read all the information on the web site and join the Forum so you'll know what to say to your family, friends, and acquaintances, and if you need help, I'm only a phone call or e-mail away.
It's important to let people you personally sponsor KNOW they can expect 2 letters from the company, because most of us get so much mail, we could miss them. Some ISP's will block it also, so it's important to put [email protected] and [email protected] on your "safe list".
**You will be receiving TWO letters from the company. (1) One automatically sent, as if it comes from your sponsor, with your ID# and password enclosed. (2) A letter asking you to reply only (when you hit reply and send, you will be registering for Club Updates.)
**You will be invited to join the Forum in your FIRST letter, when you sign up, wait for another "confirmation email", because until you click on the link provided in the "confirmation e-mail", you are not registered. (use your same "username" to register.)
**When you register for the Forum, and confirm your registration, you will be added to a Membership List in the Forum.
There is so much information in your back office, I recommend printing it off and reading it several times. If you have sponsored Members without a computer, see that they receive this information, as well.
Everybody should join the Forum and introduce yourself...plus, there's a family atmosphere there, for the most part, I'm sure you'll enjoy reading the posts. One Forum Member said if he feels down, he reads the positive posts in the Forum, and he no longer feels depressed....What a wonderful compliment to the Forum Members. I hope you will join it!
I'm glad you got in now, I truly believe everybody that gets in now, and joins when we launch, is going to be very pleasantly surprised come payday.
I'm so excited to know we can help so many others, while helping ourselves....isn't it great!!!!!
Thank you for becoming a part of my team,
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Update today for Multiple Positions being allowed.
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Originally Posted by XXXXX
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Its Long. But what it is.
Compensation Plan Explanation:
The material on this page is designed to give you a detailed overview of our compensation program and operating methodology.
As there is a lot of information here, it will take some time to digest.
If, after reading this material, you have any questions, please post them on the forum.
What are we?
Let us start this section by telling you what we are not.
We are not some sort of "Offshore investment" club promising ridiculous returns on your money.
In case you do not know, those organizations are pretty much all scams. ANY organization that promises you much more than a normal commercial return on your investment (remembering that the return in some off shore locations can exceed the US or UK rates by two or three times) should be treated with caution. The greater the return offered, the greater the need for caution and due diligence.
We are not an MLM company.
In case you have not worked it out yet, trying to get rich promoting the normal overpriced, over-hyped products they generally offer is extremely difficult.
We are not a SCAM.
We fully intend to make more money from this totally legal concept than any scammer ever made from their scam.
We are TOTALLY legal.
Our club, and all associated companies are duly registered legal entities in the country of Panama.
EVERYTHING regarding our organization is TOTALLY legal under Panamanian law.
If you are wondering, why Panama, while we intend to cover that subject in great detail over the coming weeks, here are a few key reasons.
Panama has NO tax treaties with ANY other countries. This means that any income you earn as a club members will NOT be reported or available under ANY circumstances to your home countries' tax agencies. If you chose to disclose any of this income (which, if you use the systems we will expose you to, will never be your "personal" income, therefore not subject to reporting requirements outside Panama) and then pay taxes on it, that is your choice. If you chose not to, that is also your choice. We have no interest either way in your decision.
Note: If you are a Panamanian citizen, then your income from us WILL be disclosed as required by Panamanian law.
There are 400,000 offshore corporations currently registered in Panama for a reason.
We are a CLUB, and for those of you who do not already know, here are two definitions of a club.
"A club is an association of people not united together by any natural ties of kinship, real or supposed."
"An incorporated organization organized under the laws of the state ("state" being any legitimate unit of government, such as the national government of Panama) for civic, fraternal, social, or business purposes."
In the simplest possible terms, we intend to provide our club members with two main services.
1) Provide them with factual information on how to generate wealth.
2) Provide them with factual information on how to protect the wealth they generate.
Obviously, there is nothing simple about either of these two subjects.
While we are going to cover the first subject in detail on this page, detailed information on the second subject will only be available to our paid members after we launch.
Our Compensation Program:
Our compensation program is both extremely simple and extremely complicated.
The simple part:
We have chosen a 3 x 10 'matrix' as the core component of the program.
Every paid member will be in this 'matrix'.
Every paid member will be eligible to earn an income from this 'matrix'.
NO member will EVER need to sponsor another member to earn that income.
NO member will EVER need to purchase any of the products we offer to earn that income.
NO member will EVER need to sell any of the products we offer to earn that income.
The ONLY requirement for a member to earn an income from the matrix, is to remain a PAID member.
Now, if you have any experience in the MLM industry, you will be well aware that this sort of set up is totally different from their standard marketing plan, as they typically do not pay anyone who cannot sponsor other people.
We have deliberately set up our compensation system in such a way as to totally remove any and all personal sponsoring requirements as, quite frankly, they scare the heck out of a lot of people.
The more complicated part:
We will have 3 base membership levels, and members will be paid from the matrix based on their choice of membership level.
Silver members will receive payment on levels 1-7.
Gold members will receive payment on levels 1-8.
Diamond members will receive payment on all 10 levels.
Note: Do not assume that Diamond members will pay more for membership as this is not the case. They will actually pay LESS per month than Silver members.
The determining factor for the various membership levels is a members willingness to pay their membership fees further in advance, instead of on a month by month basis.
While the exact monthly membership fees are still in the process of being finalized, they will be in the range of $0.65 - $1.00 per day range ($20.00 - $30.00 per month).
The still more complicated part:
While we have absolutely no personal sponsoring requirements, we fully intend to reward those members who choose to introduce and sponsor other members.
Our diamond members will be paid a series of "matching bonuses" based on the number of other members they personally sponsor.
These matching bonuses can significantly increase the size of their bonuses each month and are as follows.
Sponsor 5 members and earn 10% of each of those members matrix bonus checks.
Sponsor 15 members and earn 15% of each of those members matrix bonus checks.
Sponsor 30 members and earn 20% of each of those members matrix bonus checks.
Note: This extra bonus is not deducted from the members bonus check, it is added from club funds to the sponsors check.
The Matrix:
Matrix Bonuses.
Level. Paid To. Number on Level.
Bonus Paid Per Level Each month. Available Bonus Per Level.
1 All Members 3 1 $3.00
2 All Members 9 1 $9.00
3 All Members 27 1 $27.00
4 All Members 81 1 $81.00
5 All Members 243 1 $243.00
6 All Members 729 1 $729.00
7 All Members 2187 2 $4374.00
8 Gold & Diamond Members 6561 1 $6561.00
9 Diamond Members 19683 1 $19683.00
10 Diamond Members 59049 1 $59049.00
Notes on the matrix:
1) For those of you who want to know, here are the potential payouts for each of the membership levels.
Silver members can earn $5,466 each month.
Gold members can earn $12,027 each month.
Diamond members can earn $90,759, PLUS the matching bonuses we offer each month.
2) These projected (not guaranteed nor promised) figures are currently based on a proposed monthly membership fee of $20.00 and will be adjusted accordingly once this fee is finalized.
3) if you are wondering how the size of your matrix can increase without having to sponsor anyone here is how it can happen. Your sponsor, or their sponsor, or anyone else positioned above you in the matrix can "spill" members under you. Or the club itself can spill members under you.
While we are on that subject, the club is, and fully intends to continually sponsor as many new members as possible for one very simple reason. EVERY member we personally sponsor is one less matching bonus we ever pay. Yes, we also like the idea of earning as great an income as possible.
Ok, that pretty much sums up the basics of the compensation program.
If your only interest is in joining us and doing nothing else except receiving a bonus check each month, you now have a fairly good understanding of our compensation program.
If, however you would like to learn about some of the products we will have available and how you can earn and save still more money, keep reading.
Product Notes.
We are going to preface this section with a two simple statements.
Purchasing any of our products is TOTALLY optional.
Product purchases by our members have absolutely nothing to do with matrix or any other bonuses, as NO bonuses are paid to members on these purchases made by members.
Broadly speaking we will have three categories of products available.
Service Products:
One example of these will be the ability of interested members to set up their own offshore Panamanian companies and or trusts through our Panamanian attorneys at highly discounted rates. As an example the basic set up costs generally run in the $3,000 - $3,500 range.
Our members will save around 12% of that figure.
One free piece of education we will also give you right now is this.
Do NOT even think of incorporating offshore using ANYONE else except a legitimate, licensed law firm or private attorney. It is VITAL that you have the protection of an attorney / client relationship throughout the entire set up process.
If you try to save a few bucks and use one of the many web based "Brokerage" companies, you are not asking for trouble, you are practically guaranteeing it.
Here is just ONE example of why it can cost you money. You set up a company, and the associated bank account using a broker.
You are then asked to fund the account with a minimum wire transferred deposit (between $1,000 and $10,000 is standard for these accounts). You wire the money and duly receive conformation from the bank that it is in the account. You then log on to your account and discover that the balance is ZERO.
Care to guess where your money went?
What the broker "forgot" to tell you is that he is also a signatory on the account. He simply withdrew it and there is NOTHING you can do about it as he had a perfectly legal right to do so. And for all you Americans with the normal "Screw with me and I will sue your ass off attitude", you are in for a VERY rude shock the first time you try and sue a local in ANY of the offshore tax havens. For a start, their attorneys do not work on a contingency basis as it is illegal in most other countries besides the USA. Secondly, after you have paid your local attorney up to $50,000 up front, be prepared to wait up to 5 YEARS for the case to come to court.
Now the good news. Using our attorneys, the system is exactly the same with one important difference. Your bank account is set up with a ZERO balance, and you do NOT fund it until you have received written conformation from the bank that you are the ONLY signatory on the account.
Are you starting to understand that membership in our club may have a few advantages?
We will also be offering many other service related products that will be revealed to paid members.
Digital Products.
There are literally thousands of companies and individuals currently selling digital products online.
There are also dozens of membership based organizations who provide those products to their members at highly discounted rates.
We have joined many of those clubs and fully intend to GIVE our members as many of these products as possible.
Where these products have a "For sale only" restriction, we will comply with that restriction and sell our members the product........for $0.01 each. If they do not like it, they are more than welcome to take us to court...in Panama.
If any of our members wish to, they will be able to on-sell these products to the public.
Consumable Products.
Do you currently use any of the following products:
Nutritional supplements.
Household cleaning products.
Skin, body care or cosmetic products.
If so, you are going to be amazed at just how much you will be able to save on our products. This is particularly true if you happen to purchase any of these from a MLM company.
As an example, lets look at a nutritional supplement that you purchase retail in a health food store.
These product generally have a 300-400 percent markup from the manufacturer to you.
In other words a product that costs $5.00 to manufacture, will cost you $20.00 , and often more, retail.
Now, as one of our associated companies IS the manufacturer, the SAME product would be sold to our members for around $8.00.
Another, even better example is a MLM product. The routinely markup to 1,400 percent to pay bonuses.
So the product they sell for $50.00 would cost you around $11.00 from us.
Do you like the idea of those sorts of savings?
Now, lets take this whole scenario one step further.
If you live in say Canada and you import your products from the USA, you pay a lot extra in shipping. You also pay an import duty on those products.
Once we are fully up and running, we will be opening distribution centers in numerous countries.
Placing these will be based on our membership levels in those countries.
Members in those countries with distribution centers will have their products shipped to them from those centers.
Less shipping and NO import duty.
As the financial transactions for all of our product sales will take place in Panama and Panama has NO tax treaties with ANY other country, we will NOT be getting involved with collecting sates taxes, VAT or duty.
Just one more way we will save our members money.
Other ways to earn money with the club:
While some members may find this section extremely complicated, it
is actually simple.
First of all, our club is currently not yet even in "pre-launch" (to use a MLM term most people are at least somewhat familiar with).
We are currently accepting free "pre-registration expressions of interest".
Our pre-launch will start on April 15, and last until May 31.
On June 1, we will launch all aspects of the club, and that is when things could start to get very exciting.
You see, we are not launching one club, we are actually launching two totally separate clubs.
The first club is GWBOPC, and that one you already know about.
Broadly speaking GWBOPC will attract individuals who wish to gain the following as members of our club:
1) Those who wish to learn how to protect their assets.
2) Those who wish to generate either a passive or an active income from their involvement with us.
3) Those who also wish to save a significant amount of money on consumable products they probably already purchase.
Now, while there are millions of individuals on this planet who fit one or more of those three categories, there is an even larger group who do not.
There are literally hundreds of millions of individuals who, while they will have no interest in joining our club, are still prime candidates for some of our products.
We are referring to consumers.
Specifically, Mr. and Mrs. Joe Average consumer.
These individual consumers are a multi-billion dollar market and we are starting our second club just for them.
If you happen to live in the USA, think of this as a worldwide version of "Sam's Club".
Our second club has NOTHING and EVERYTHING to do with GWBOPC.
NOTHING in the respect that members of this club are not in the GWBOPC compensation program. They do not earn ANY form of compensation.
EVERYTHING in the respect that they will be introduced into their club by GWBOPC members and those members will earn income EVERY time they purchase any of our products.
Here is a brief explanation of how it will work.
Remember the pricing examples we gave you on our consumable products?
Well, we are actually going to have three prices for each of these products.
Your GWBOPC members price...the lowest available.
Our retail price...our highest price. This is the price that retail customers will pay if they order our products from any of our websites.
Our second club members price...less than retail but above the GWBOPC members price.
Here is an example of how this pricing structure will work using a fictional product:
Retail Price Second club members price GWBOPC members price
$40.00 $20.00 $12.00
Now, if you are wondering how all of this relates to generating extra income for GWBOPC members, read on.
Every consumable product we offer for retail sale, will have it's own retail website.
Every GWBOPC member will have a replicated copy of that site to promote...if they choose to do so.
Every time a product sale is made from one of those sites, the member who owns the site is paid the difference between the GWBOPC member price and the retail price as compensation.
As per the example above, the retail price is $40.00, and the GWBOPC members price is $12.00.
So any such sale generated by your retail site earn you the $28.00 difference. Any of this extra compensation that is earned is simply added to your matrix checks each month.
The important part of this is that the GWBOPC member does NOTHING except promote the website.
NOTE: ALL of this is TOTALLY optional. No member is required to become involved with any aspect of selling these products unless they choose to do so.
Product sales made to members of the second club (we are still thinking of a name for this one) are handled differently.
Like "Sam's Club", members of this club will pay a small monthly membership (probably $5.00 per month) to access the highly discounted product prices they are offered as members.
The members of this club will not be in the GWBOPC members matrix, they will be linked to GWBOPC members via a 5 tier "sponsorship" based and totally separate compensation program.
In simple English, this means that compensation paid on these people will be paid to the actual sponsors of those people, and their direct
upline sponsors, not via the matrix.
There are two different sorts of compensation that will be paid on this second
club.
Their membership fees (probably $5.00 per month) will be paid out in full to GWBOPC members.
50 percent of the fee will be paid each month to the actual sponsor.
The other 50 percent will be paid out to the next 4 upline Diamond members.
Compensation on their product purchases will be paid the same way.
If their price is $20.00 and the GWBOPC members price is $12.00, then the $8.00 difference will be paid out in compensation.
50 percent to the actual sponsor and the other 50 percent to the next 4 upline diamond members.
Please keep in mind that this second club has a MUCH larger potential membership than GWBOPC due to the sheer number of consumers looking to save money who have no interest whatsoever in becoming members of GWBOPC.
One other point of interest, is how you will be paid.
That will depend on which country you reside in.
Basically, we will be using a series of both Debit Cards and pre-paid Credit Cards. We MAY also use E-Gold if we can ascertain that this method of payment is TOTALLY secure and non-traceable by tax agencies.
We will NOT be using PayPal or ANY other USA based payment system.
Ok, that's it.
You now have a fairly detailed explanation of how we are going to operate.
If, after reading all of this you have questions, please post them in the relevant section of the forum.
Please do not email us your questions, as we will not respond. It is much more efficient to deal with all questions on the forum, as many other members can see them and our answers at the same time.
One final BLUNT point.
If, after reading all of this material, you think that we are in any way a scam, please do us all a favor and send an email to: [email protected] requesting that we totally remove you from our database.
We have neither the time, nor the inclination to try and change anyone's mind about us.
Those who can see what we see, will join us.
Those who, for whatever reason have doubts, will not join us.
Thanks for taking the time to read all of this :)
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