Thread: A possible RV Date!!!

Originally Posted by lazyasL

PAn8Tv

There is no link that 2loan4u can provide, this is another BS story set to start feuding and fighting again in the forum…..People in the know with this type of information have certain types of clearances and dedication to their job (most likely making a nice income too), and I doubt that they would jeopardize their job or position they hold with a company or a government just so a friend or family member can have the information (which can and will be traced back to them)….this is not petty information, like placing a bet on a long shot, but is highly classified information and will most likely be dealt with in that way……there is no reprint, IMO if that were to happen, the dinar would loose what value and status it now has, and the currency of Iraq would be under scrutiny, by other counties doing and wanting to do business with Iraq …….also the 2loan4u join date bothers me, with this type of post, most newcomers start off asking questions, not posting such info......"Soon... but not until after the reprint"...(baiting IMO)....why not give the information for his/her comment right off the bat......

Originally Posted by PAn8tv

Thank you Lazyasl, I threw the BS flag on the first post and it appeard I was a little to brash from the response from 2loan. I still thought it was BS but wanted to be fair and give them a chance to come clean. I see after the 15 or so pages that there is no respose from 2loan. I hope the mods make note of this person or the IP where it was generated from, chances are they will be back under a new log on. Thanks to all for the insightful and curtious conversation, very refreshing!

I came to this forum to begin with because I was told this was a friendly and helpful forum. When I first visited it was in the middle of whatever was going on a few days ago and I thought surely any rudeness must be gone after that. I have to say that some of you are very unpleasant. I came and shared what info I had and asked for input but instead I found sour attitudes. I haven't posted again because I was waiting to here back from the person that originally told me of the impending currency replacement. I asked him about the arguments that arose after my previous post, hoping your explanations were what he actually meant to say. After a lengthy discussion today he assured me that the dinar will be replaced soon. The new dinar will be lower denominations that will be exchanged for the current notes, but not in the way I had expected. they will exchange the 25,000 notes for new 25 dinar notes, 10,000 dinar notes for new 10 dinar notes, and so forth. He says that he was in on the planning of the dinar prior to the war and that the new dinar was printed at the same time as the current dinar. That is all I have to share and seeing how I was treated I doubt I should have shared that. I hope everyone can be a little more kind, I was only looking for some hope and feel like I have been outright attacked.

Originally Posted by 2loan4u

I came to this forum to begin with because I was told this was a friendly and helpful forum. When I first visited it was in the middle of whatever was going on a few days ago and I thought surely any rudeness must be gone after that. I have to say that some of you are very unpleasant. I came and shared what info I had and asked for input but instead I found sour attitudes. I haven't posted again because I was waiting to here back from the person that originally told me of the impending currency replacement. I asked him about the arguments that arose after my previous post, hoping your explanations were what he actually meant to say. After a lengthy discussion today he assured me that the dinar will be replaced soon. The new dinar will be lower denominations that will be exchanged for the current notes, but not in the way I had expected. they will exchange the 25,000 notes for new 25 dinar notes, 10,000 dinar notes for new 10 dinar notes, and so forth. He says that he was in on the planning of the dinar prior to the war and that the new dinar was printed at the same time as the current dinar. That is all I have to share and seeing how I was treated I doubt I should have shared that. I hope everyone can be a little more kind, I was only looking for some hope and feel like I have been outright attacked.

How does your friend come by this information? You post a controversial statement as you have, you should provide as much information as possible to substantiate your point of view. This will help eliminate people having to fill in the blanks and help you seem credible. But when you do these drive by postings, providing little or no information or don't provide any updates, even to say you are still waiting, that can be most helpful. You have to understand many have been in this ventrue from the begining and are now, hopefully near the end of the journey. Then you come in with news of a reprint with little or no backing information or links, it just doesen't sit very well. Hope this helps explain the vibe of this thread. Most here are genuinely helpful and courteous, but you have to do your part as well.

Originally Posted by 2loan4u

I came to this forum to begin with because I was told this was a friendly and helpful forum. When I first visited it was in the middle of whatever was going on a few days ago and I thought surely any rudeness must be gone after that. I have to say that some of you are very unpleasant. I came and shared what info I had and asked for input but instead I found sour attitudes. I haven't posted again because I was waiting to here back from the person that originally told me of the impending currency replacement. I asked him about the arguments that arose after my previous post, hoping your explanations were what he actually meant to say. After a lengthy discussion today he assured me that the dinar will be replaced soon. The new dinar will be lower denominations that will be exchanged for the current notes, but not in the way I had expected. they will exchange the 25,000 notes for new 25 dinar notes, 10,000 dinar notes for new 10 dinar notes, and so forth. He says that he was in on the planning of the dinar prior to the war and that the new dinar was printed at the same time as the current dinar. That is all I have to share and seeing how I was treated I doubt I should have shared that. I hope everyone can be a little more kind, I was only looking for some hope and feel like I have been outright attacked.

2loan,

This topic has been discussed here too many times as it is...is the person who told you this opinion a person in the know in Iraq, or just another speculator? The experts at R/C have come to a different conclusion than your contact after hundreds of hours of research and discussion.

Best to all,

Dinarstars

Originally Posted by 2loan4u

I came to this forum to begin with because I was told this was a friendly and helpful forum. When I first visited it was in the middle of whatever was going on a few days ago and I thought surely any rudeness must be gone after that. I have to say that some of you are very unpleasant. I came and shared what info I had and asked for input but instead I found sour attitudes. I haven't posted again because I was waiting to here back from the person that originally told me of the impending currency replacement. I asked him about the arguments that arose after my previous post, hoping your explanations were what he actually meant to say. After a lengthy discussion today he assured me that the dinar will be replaced soon. The new dinar will be lower denominations that will be exchanged for the current notes, but not in the way I had expected. they will exchange the 25,000 notes for new 25 dinar notes, 10,000 dinar notes for new 10 dinar notes, and so forth. He says that he was in on the planning of the dinar prior to the war and that the new dinar was printed at the same time as the current dinar. That is all I have to share and seeing how I was treated I doubt I should have shared that. I hope everyone can be a little more kind, I was only looking for some hope and feel like I have been outright attacked.

Well dude. You can change your $25,000 dinar notes for $25 dinar notes if you want to but I'm planning on cashing my dinar in at a $3.22 per dinar.

Originally Posted by ChiefWealth53

Well dude. You can change your $25,000 dinar notes for $25 dinar notes if you want to but I'm planning on cashing my dinar in at a $3.22 per dinar.

I'm with ya CW53, 3.22 sounds great to me as well!!

Originally Posted by PAn8tv

How does your friend come by this information? You post a controversial statement as you have, you should provide as much information as possible to substantiate your point of view. This will help eliminate people having to fill in the blanks and help you seem credible. But when you do these drive by postings, providing little or no information or don't provide any updates, even to say you are still waiting, that can be most helpful. You have to understand many have been in this ventrue from the begining and are now, hopefully near the end of the journey. Then you come in with news of a reprint with little or no backing information or links, it just doesen't sit very well. Hope this helps explain the vibe of this thread. Most here are genuinely helpful and courteous, but you have to do your part as well.

Like I said above, he was part of the group that planned the dinar prior to the war. I cannot provide a link because he told me himself. That is all I have, I wish I could give you more information but that's all he told me. I really hope is wrong because I want this to happen more than anyone. I really want someone to prove he is wrong so I can stop worrying.

Originally Posted by oldskiier

If they did this you wouldnt have a choice !!!! thats why I say lets hope for a BIG RV...if they Lop !!!!...could be as high as 3.45 like kuawait !!!

I know I wouldn't have a choice. I've heard all the arguments on here of LOP vs no LOP and don't see that happening. Just stating that there "will not" be a LOP.

OK guys. New question.

What are the pros and cons of why the Iraqi's will or will not employ a LOP of their currency?

Originally Posted by ChiefWealth53

OK guys. New question.

What are the pros and cons of why the Iraqi's will or will not employ a LOP of their currency?

I don't know much about a LOP, but, if my thinking is correct, their current financial standing wouldn't benefit from it as they would have made many business enemies and would lose trade value with other countries. Their inner structure wouldn't be able to stand, like it isn't really standing now, and the strikes that are going on now would only increase leading the country past the war torn economy straight into an all out depression.

However, if there isn't a LOP, and a revalue is issued and is honored by the world, then the country goes from poverty to riches virtually over night. The buying power of every individual Iraqi would increase drastically, not to mention their governments financial power on the world market.

So, in my mind and in MY opinion, we are headed for a RV without a LOP.

Originally Posted by oldskiier

Whats to prove wrong ??? your satting this as fact .....but please try to find out the rate when they replace the dinar ..I'm sure it will be higher !!! suprised he didn't ay ..??? sure would have made your story have more merit !!!

He didn't say anything about the rate specifically. Just that the 25,000 dinar would be replaced by a 25 dinar note so I guess the dinar will be worth about 78 cents?