Thread: Not until it's time for us to leave

Originally Posted by Original Spiderman

I wish this thing would happen/R/V yesterday, but dispite the positive events, too many folks here have made this investment and are ready to return home. There are not enough folk here to finish the mission already. If this money reval we are out of here. We are barely allowed to take our leaves because of under manning. Numbers are a big issue and now there are further questions concerning funding. The Generals tried to tell them in the beginning that we needed more people. And now they are still half doing the job continuing to serve selfish political interest. Now if we chose to pay off the bad guys like the Kuwaitees and some others in the region, we might be able to leave, But those devils would just follows us home. Our incoming shippments of illegal drugs would double as weapons payloads. When we are eventually partying in Cancun or wherever, you will find that I am the most positive person you may ever meet. But there is a fine line between being optimistic and delusional. I love all the rumors and information but all aspects of this venture must be presented.

What would paying the kuwaitess help with anything......

What would paying the kuwaitess help with anything......


I made a grammatical error. I was alluding to the rumors that there are little to no insurgent activity in places like Kuwait and Bahrain, because they pay off the terrorist. However, I have also wittness 1st hand what the Kuwaitees do if there is allegded insurgent activity. They proceed with extreme predudice. I believe that a reval would do wonders for the Iraqi people. It would definately help to quail sectarian violence. However, it would also negatively effect our numbers and the already stretched morale of the troops.

Originally Posted by Original Spiderman

What would paying the kuwaitess help with anything......


I made a grammatical error. I was alluding to the rumors that there are little to no insurgent activity in places like Kuwait and Bahrain, because they pay off the terrorist. However, I have also wittness 1st hand what the Kuwaitees do if there is allegded insurgent activity. They proceed with extreme predudice. I believe that a reval would do wonders for the Iraqi people. It would definately help to quail sectarian violence. However, it would also negatively effect our numbers and the already stretched morale of the troops.

Originally Posted by Original Spiderman

It is obvious that you are not sitting over here receiving daily mortar attack! I wish I could sit and watch the "western media Screen" secure in the comfort of my own home. Anyway, I do see all of the positive news posted on these forums, but I also live daily in the reality of this environment. You guys can play with the retoric and continue to be duped by these politicians, but tell Spc/Sgt/Lt. that he is not fighting in a WAR. PLEASE People! I just had a soldier almost throw my computer across the room.

Thanks for all you do!!

I remember another time and place when some of us were informed that we'd not been in a war, that we'd been in a "police action"...and how hard it was for us to tell the difference, thanks all the same.

When you're back home, I think you'll find the America you left to defend as you left it...God bless it and you.

I can't out-ride, out-rope or out-shoot your computer throwing soldier, but I'd love to think I could pay his bar bill one long steak-eating, beer-drinking, politically incorrect American night.

I'd be honored!!

Originally Posted by Original Spiderman

It is obvious that you are not sitting over here receiving daily mortar attack! I wish I could sit and watch the "western media Screen" secure in the comfort of my own home. Anyway, I do see all of the positive news posted on these forums, but I also live daily in the reality of this environment. You guys can play with the retoric and continue to be duped by these politicians, but tell Spc/Sgt/Lt. that he is not fighting in a WAR. PLEASE People! I just had a soldier almost throw my computer across the room.

Spiderman,

I meant no disrespect with my post. I know you are there "living the good life" from other post you have made. I was only being silly with the technicalities with the real reasons we are there.

I too am a Veteran (USAF) of of the war in Iraq. I was there two years myself. Again I was only trying to be silly and didn't mean for you to get to the point that you wanted to "throw your computer across the room". Hang in there a bit longer and when we meet up for the RV party I will have many "cold ones" waiting for you

Originally Posted by Original Spiderman

I love the all the speculation and rumors but the reality of our situation is that the money will not revals before the this war is over and the Good Guys are ready to leave. I estimate that at least 3/4 of supporting civilians would immediately return home to their families and a good 1/2 of the military service members would be so mentally distracted knowing that they have just won the lottery... Not trying to be negative but just my perception on being over here. This is a big topic for us here in Iraq and we fantasize about what we would do if this thing hits. I have yet to talk to anyone that would stay. We are already under staffed and workin 12-16 hours everyday. A Descent R/V would just compound the delima causing a major exodus. I hope and pray for a nice reval but a gradual increase or maybe a .01 or .02 R/V is more likely just to give the people some hope. I pray that I am wrong. Again not trying to be negative.

Thank you for your service...and I mean it! I deal with the military daily so I see first-hand their dedication. I support and always will- those who put their lives on the line to protect our families.
I will and do verbally stand against anyone I hear bad-mouth those who allow the bad-mouthers the freedom to criticize the efforts of our military.

Individually, as much as I would love to see a significant RV, in no way would I want this to happen at the expense of anyone serving (our Country) over there!

Tonight I pray for your safety, as well as the safety of your friends. May you all have a victorious welcome home!!!

Thank you once again,
The Court Jester

Originally Posted by Original Spiderman

It is obvious that you are not sitting over here receiving daily mortar attack! I wish I could sit and watch the "western media Screen" secure in the comfort of my own home. Anyway, I do see all of the positive news posted on these forums, but I also live daily in the reality of this environment. You guys can play with the retoric and continue to be duped by these politicians, but tell Spc/Sgt/Lt. that he is not fighting in a WAR. PLEASE People! I just had a soldier almost throw my computer across the room.

I want to thank you for all you are doing over there and now that I know you are there I will pray for you everyday and ask God to bring you home safely to your family at home and to your Rolclub Family. Nidya

Rolclub Family,
I really appreciate all of your positive comments and support. I think somewhere in my hasty post I left an impression that I am "In" the military. Eventhough we operate here in Iraq under the premise "one fight one team" I am a civilian working here in Iraq with/for the military. I guess mortars don't discreminate between civilians and soldiers, but I stand in awe and humbled by what the guys I serve encounter daily out in the field. They are true heros and unfortunately some can't afford to invest monetarily in Iraq. When I speculate about how soon the R/V will occur, I do so from the perspective of whats best for the guys in the field. I'm sure that a sudden Reval will eliminate some sectarian violence, but I also think the power that be have considered a sudden fall of in man power caused by the creation of instant Millionaires made from over stresses over worked ordinary people. Support services such as mechanics, food services, Truck Drivers and many other are the lifeline for those guys out there kicking in doors searching for terrorist. I am sure current leadership considers this.

Originally Posted by Original Spiderman

Rolclub Family,
I really appreciate all of your positive comments and support. I think somewhere in my hasty post I left an impression that I am "In" the military. Eventhough we operate here in Iraq under the premise "one fight one team" I am a civilian working here in Iraq with/for the military. I guess mortars don't discreminate between civilians and soldiers, but I stand in awe and humbled by what the guys I serve encounter daily out in the field. They are true heros and unfortunately some can't afford to invest monetarily in Iraq. When I speculate about how soon the R/V will occur, I do so from the perspective of whats best for the guys in the field. I'm sure that a sudden Reval will eliminate some sectarian violence, but I also think the power that be have considered a sudden fall of in man power caused by the creation of instant Millionaires made from over stresses over worked ordinary people. Support services such as mechanics, food services, Truck Drivers and many other are the lifeline for those guys out there kicking in doors searching for terrorist. I am sure current leadership considers this.

Well you could balance that with the argument that if the RV helped reduce the violence and give the economy the kickstart it needs and jobs are provided, pensions are paid etc. the need for as many troops and civilian support would drop dramtically and so it might be a wash. I think the good the RV would do for Iraq far outweighs the loss of some personel who don't need a job anymore.

Originally Posted by SPFX2

First off, unlike the rest that responded to your post, I would like to thank you for your service to our country. I am prior military and agree fully with what you said. It is unfortunate that some get "clouded vision" when it comes to this topic and fail to see the real hurdles we face. I am proud of each and everyone of you over there.....keep you heads down

I have read all your post and am determining that you are here for trouble. I hope I am wrong. First off Orginal Spiderman is not in the Military. Second -off you dont speak here for the group. Now, you need to reframe your thoughts and keep your bashing comments of Rolclub members to yourself. Please enjoy the forum as we all try to do. Thanks