Thread: I wholeheartedly support Marek's decision.

Yeah well.. I will truly miss the moderate and toughtfull reactions around here, bigopie. Don't forget to buy flowers for the horse you rode in on.

Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com

Interesting,

Yes, what happened was unfortunate, but I ask you, what would you have done if you were Bryan or Marek? We all know the EGO Bryan has,
but Marek, I have not seen this at all.

Seriously, what would you have done? Many already knew about this, and many surely clued Marek in on this and voiced their opinions on what should be done, so this was not a snap decision, but think about it, then tell us what you would have done in Marek's position?

You see, it isn't easy to be in a position of knowledge of a problem and not say anything or say it like it is, as in honest. Not saying what you know is to many just as bad as lying about it, so everyone has their own opinion on issue, but I would really like to hear what you would have done given your voiced opinion. You see, everyone has an opinion, but unless you have a solution or answer to issue, opinions are useless.

I put myself in Marek's shoes, as I did in Bryan's before I decided what I would have done. Granted, Bryan was in a corner as many of us already knew about the connection to 10X5, so think about it, this was not as secret as you may have thought it was. Now from Bryan's point, he chose to deny it at first, at least when he thought he could get away with it, but we all know why he had to change his mind, and lash out as if to defend his deception.

You see, it wasn't easy for either to take the actions they did, but talking about what Marek did is hardly in comparison to what Bryan did. Marek was confronted with a very similar situation as Bryan was, and that was that many knew about this unethical false identity issue, so if it was released by others, and not Marek, what would you have thought of Marek then? You see, you cannot have it both ways. This was a tough decision, but one that Marek had to make to protect his integrity, and since Bryan already blew his integrity with most of us, Marek made the right decision.

So what would have been your decision? I am sure everyone here has an opinion, but did they have a solution? Since you voiced a decision that both were wrong, I am curious to know what was the right decision that should have been made? Not say anything, is this your ACCEPTABLE solution for both? This is effectively worse in my opinion, for it would be essentially lying, no matter how you cut it. The only thing I see as UNACCEPTABLE is Bryan's attitude having been caught lying. Responding like a five year old was too kind. Please let us all know what you would have done in same position?

Good luck to all, Mike

I guess you are talking to me, right? I agree with almost everything you wrote. The decision of bringing truth to light is always right psychologically to most people. I just don't like the execution. I was as much shocked by bryan's response as I was with mareks. They both behaved like children. But to me personally this is all besides the point. Since the investigation by BNM is of an official nature I want to know the outcome more then I want to know what BM is eating for lunch right now. I wasn't planning on investing anywhere on the net because it is a pirates nest. I started with pips 2 months after it opened and I was still late. I read every post on that forum because at that time I was ill. I know who is who by their writing style and I have copy/pasted a lot of stuff just to read it again or send it to friends. I never showed my knowledge because I don't have the time nor the inclination to answer any question of way back when. I can tell you pips was genuine. You could tell by the frantic reactions given by the media. You could tell by how the banks started to sabotage things. Pips wasn't to good to be true, pips was shaking things up with the establishment. Pips was scaring some powerfull instances shitless. There were huge scams going on right there and then, some maybe even bigger then pips but noone in the media reported on them. When you see these things happen right in front of your eyes ..you start to wonder. Now I just want to know what BNM's conclusion will be because that IS where it will become truly interesting. Then you will know if you've been had. It won't be by BM though. He failed because he never was supposed to win (that's my answer on his integrity).This forum just lost everything what was worth coming back for. So, how would I have done this? First of all, BM didn't come here anymore because of marek and some members. RC is not the only forum on the net about pips. It just isn't. Since I am not marek my relationship with BM would have been different. But then again I would never have started a forum.
After the pips forum shutdown I missed that sense of community it had. I even saved a man's life by working together with some members to have that particular person looked after. I thought rolclub would be nice, I was in another one but got banned (thanks to you mike, but no hard feelings; I would never join a club who wouldn't have me as a member). I just have to move on. I am not looking for a leader or another bogus investment so why hang out here. Only the BNM verdict interests me.

I would like to interject a thought. Everytime that Bryan Marsden gave a written explanation within the PIPS website, his written words (verbage), used eloquent British English. The content of any sentence was carefully put to type and, there were no grammatical errors.
All of the supposed recent communications between any member and Bryan Marsdan, must be, has to be a rouse. You cannot be born a British citizen, and refuse to express yourself in perfectly written word. It simply isn't the British way. I would suggest that a grammatical test be applied to any communication that is being presented as BM.
It certaintly makes sense that if your second language were english, then grammatical errors are a common by-product within the transition of language.
In other words, the person or persons posing as Bryan Marsden on the internet, has english as a second, third language. IMHO.
Jack

Originally Posted by jackfrost2

...snip, snip... I would suggest that a grammatical test be applied to any communication that is being presented as BM.
It certaintly makes sense that if your second language were english, then grammatical errors are a common by-product within the transition of language.
In other words, the person or persons posing as Bryan Marsden on the internet, has english as a second, third language. IMHO.
Jack

Hehe... I can also say with full confidence that you were unfortunate or perhaps NOT at all... nonetheless, if you had, not only would you have realised his teen background as a "miner's son" but also, he had made to a high level within the industry creating architectural and engineering projects...which left him barely time to polish his English caliber as one would expect from a born Brit.

However, I won't think your suggestion would fall onto eager ears to consider this option for if you had indeed met BM and/or been to any of the conventions hosting his presence, you would understand why English is his mother tongue but spoken from a miner's background.





YB. - cheers to the RC CARE Group...

We as pips members have a need to seek the truth. Bryan and Sharon are either, being restrained from communicating on the internet, on the run, dead or incarcerated. But one thing is for certain, Bryan Marsdan has not been on the internet since August of last year. A Brit would not present himself as an incompetent writer, especially, when money and the power of freedom it encompasses is so gravely at stake. PIPS IMHO, will be back. Take heed, watch for proper british english in written word, that will be Bryan.

I would agree with you Yogi, if it were not for the copies of all the transcripts of the PIPS forum venue. There are no grammatical errors from the administrator of the PIPS forum, namely Bryan Marsdan

To Yogi,
Your Shakesperian eloquence, leaves one amiss.
No one, with anything of importance to communicate as a thought in written word, would use Old English supposition. Thanks for biography lesson, but I too came from humble beginnings. My english is just fine, and my punctuation is nearly correct.