Thread: Im sad to say.....

Moderators and members.

To date all my posts have stayed on. They, it now seems to me have met a certain criteria. Now even though I have used no foul language, attacked no member either but simply asked some pretty straightforward questions, my posts are gone.


On Sunday I witnessed the first pretty dramatic post ever for this forum from a member and then as I checked back on the post a short time later I noticed it gone. This member I am certain is not problematic and their post had every right to stay present, as other forms of speculations have been accepted wholeheartedly.

I have since come back only to see stale threads. Yes I have taken note and realized that mostly what I am now reading are posts that are in no wise factual. Instead they are mere speculative in nature and highly appealing for a time. What is not realized though is that as the speculation does not come to fruition more and more members will be far more disillusioned then had they had the meat as well as the bones to chew on.

This is unhealthy people. It is a form of brain washing and when anyone who is intelligent enough to work out what is going on does they will no longer find this forum of any worth.

I am so sad to say that I have lost respect for this forum after reading the same posts day after day after day waiting for some form of movement and then catching the tail end of an staggering thread that was canned.
Moderators, you have a responsibility to us the members to be showing us both the good and the not so good. You also have the responsibilities to yourselves to be no matter what…..honest.

My posts have shown that I fully support Pips, and Bryan Marsden, I have not in any wise slandered Pips or Bryans efforts so I have every write to be heard, as well as those other members who have relevant info. If there are posts allowed on here stating that a friend of an aunts of a friend and so on heard on the grape vine that payouts were happening supposedly as soon as the such and such platform is up then I think that other posts should be allowed also.

I’m truly disappointed and to be honest am not interested in coming here anymore because I doubt what I am reading to be unbiased, up to date and relevant.

Sure seems that way.
Pete

Hi Freedom

I know what you're saying and where you're coming from, but I disagree with you. I think I know the post to which you're referring and although it stated that it was a from a source inside PIPS, it was still not fact as far as we're concerned. It didn't come from the Man himself.
If it turns out to be true, then so be it, but there's no point in someone other than The Man trying to tell us this kind of devastating news, because most of us won't believe it. It does however, cause significant unrest and potentially widespread panic with those who DO choose to believe it and that in turn will only cause problems for the company when these people try to phone them to verify the legitimacy of the post.

Speculation of a positive nature is not harmful and serves to give people hope that it's still possible to come out the other side of this. It shows another way of thinking that is NOT all doom and gloom...

Therefore I agree with the moderators decision to get rid of negative speculation until the Boss says it himself and to keep the positive speculation, because there are times when I read something like that and I think "Hmmm, I never thought of it like that - maybe it IS still possible for my dreams to come true".

I like having my dreams and I don't want them to be dashed prematurely by someone posting something they "heard"....

Ruth

That post was put up again today for a short time and there was light cast upon it, however later removed totally. What most don’t realize is this news IS getting out there anyway. People then cant share this news inside a safe environment to either validate it or have it disputed and disregarded. Another thread totally diff to the above mentioned one was removed also and to be honest that was a large mistake. There has been for sometime speculation regarding registration in Panama. A businessman who has his business registered in Panama came forward and totally cleared this misunderstood notion regarding Pips registration. I for one was glad I caught that thread before it was removed. That thread was one that built further trust. Sometimes we need to deal one at a time with legitimate concerns. We can’t sweep them under the carpet as if they are not real. When we face these real concerns and work together others more learned then we usually come forward to be a saving help.

I’m not looking to have people’s hopes torn to threads; on the contrary…I have 100000.00 in Pips and praying for it to come through.

I value your opinion Ru but I stick by my initial post.

Freedom

I have removed these hearsay allegations from the forum.
I do not want people speculating on whether it's true or false.

We shall wait until BM posts his news. Then you are free to speculate........

I am sorry, but this is the way it's going to be if you want a forum at all........... :cry:

Originally Posted by Shell

We shall wait until BM posts his news.

When will that be now? He's already late so i wonder how long. Is it ok for me to speculate when he might post something?

If someone has a copy of "said post" could you pm it to me?

Freedom

Thanks for your reply and like I say, I can see where you're coming from.

However, these rumours can never be validated one way or another on this forum. BM will never come on here and say whether something somebody is saying is true or not and that's the only information I want to hear about this! We just have to wait until the official announcements are made in our back office. The Boss made it clear that he didn't want new Forums starting up after the demise of the company one and therefore the Moderators are doing exactly what they should do in order that the Boss doesn't decide to close their accounts down for deliberately going against his wishes! This kind of speculation and harmful Chinese Whispers are exactly the reasons that the Company forum was closed in the first place!!

I come here purely to see if anyone has any good news - ie has a withdrawal gone complete or has someone received their mortgage payments (which they have, by the way, in case you missed that thread!)... I believe that's what this was all about - hearing the good news and possibly helping others out with queries.

Please, just respect the rules that the Moderators have in place - we are just supposed to be here to find out concrete info. Go to TG if you want to hear ALL the gossip!

Ruth

Originally Posted by webinvestor

Originally Posted by Shell

We shall wait until BM posts his news.

When will that be now? He's already late so i wonder how long. Is it ok for me to speculate when he might post something?

:D From what i heard its gonna be still this week or august 2. the latest.


greets

necromancer

Excuse me but I have thought that Freedom has posted some of the best threads in this Forum and I have enjoyed very much her topics, her arguments and her thoughts especially as I have not always agreed with her.

I don't agree with any form of adult censorship , it smacks of fascism.

If there is a thread that has been withdrawn ask yourself why do this. We are all grown up here and we can differentiate between fact and fiction. Shell, if you are going to allow a rumour to stay because it's of a positive nature the I am afraid you should allow a rumour even if it is negative, if not get rid of all rumours please don't cherry pick the ones you fancy.

This whole business is becoming deplorable and it's being fuelled because of the anxiety caused by senior management doing arbitrary things with no warning nor viable explanations and I am sorry to say a certain level of arrogance . The UK forum is tearing one another to pieces on both sides of the argument because either there is the 'blind faith brigade' who flame aggressively their opposite numbers or there is the real doom and gloom members who are furious with BM for being so reticent.

If we stick to the rules and keep polite and respectful to one another then our posts should remain regardless of content.

Galadriel