Thread: Pips will return/pips will not return

Originally Posted by bigopie

i would like to know whats wrong with being on the fence?...for one thing i joined very late...way after the withdrawl delays had started.....i never recieved a cent....i also never met Bryan personally.....i watched and tried to get something out of arc's thread....but really guys...this thread drug out for over 2 months......as for the sequence put together by paddy....that was wonderfully done......but again,no further along then i was b4...i say I...because I am talking about myself personally.....if someone got more out of it then i did...great....maybe he was here longer...maybe he met Bryan....maybe he is a true believer.....or whatever reason.....i never did doubt bryan's sencerity for helping people.....i have doubts about his leadership capabilities and his communication skills.....its hard for me to place trust in someone who i have never met.....never got a return on...and have watched his lack of communication skills...over and over again....why is it so hard for someone to understand this is really beyond me.....and if putting my name on the list that does'nt think pips will return will keep me off of bryan's "good" list if it does return only shows his true colors in the first place....does'nt it.....now...i did'nt curse....or put anybody down who has a difference of opinion...because as of right now...thats all we have....opinions.....and differences of opinions....IMHO.....Pat

IMHO....Very well stated Pat!

Pips will return.

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everwiser, first of all, thanks for your explaination.

to futher explain myself, I have to say that because of my Pro Pipster attitude before, I believe I have really disappointed people around me, and I can even venture to say that I have disappointed some members that I didn't know personally, but they happened to read my posts on the forums, here or on the old pips forum, in my opinion, everyone got carried away there, BM included.

so, I have come to realize I have to take responsibility of my own actions, if I go on letting myself to keep other people's hopes up when I don't have enough facts to base it on, then possibly disappoint them again, and then trying to say sorry later, that would be too late...

on the other hand, it is not over, as the way Pips is being investigated is not normal, so I can only sit on the fence.

I just don't want to repeat my mistake.

of course, it's just my point of my view, my own experience, I am in on way want to be a party pooper, i hate being one, I am in no way want to discourage people to take any side either, it's your belief.

moreover, I may not have enough facts to make a pro or con decision, but others may really have, who know, so this post is only to explain my position.

pips will return

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Hey what happened to my post? I said it will be back and a I pledge my positive attitude. We shall hang in there till the man speaks.

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Originally Posted by Toefl

everwiser, first of all, thanks for your explaination.

to futher explain myself, I have to say that because of my Pro Pipster attitude before, I believe I have really disappointed people around me, and I can even venture to say that I have disappointed some members that I didn't know personally, but they happened to read my posts on the forums, here or on the old pips forum, in my opinion, everyone got carried away there, BM included.

so, I have come to realize I have to take responsibility of my own actions, if I go on letting myself to keep other people's hopes up when I don't have enough facts to base it on, then possibly disappoint them again, and then trying to say sorry later, that would be too late...

on the other hand, it is not over, as the way Pips is being investigated is not normal, so I can only sit on the fence.

I just don't want to repeat my mistake.

of course, it's just my point of my view, my own experience, I am in on way want to be a party pooper, i hate being one, I am in no way want to discourage people to take any side either, it's your belief.

moreover, I may not have enough facts to make a pro or con decision, but others may really have, who know, so this post is only to explain my position.

A completely respectable explanation for your position Toefl. Thank you for your clarity and courtesy.

Everwiser

Pips will return

add showme and toby1--we got bumped off the other list.

Pamela

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Originally Posted by 4dataxman

Amazing how some folks can stand up and really make an issue of a minor topic... Really, a person needs to look at themselves at this juncture, and have some thoughts! What is everyones?

1. YES Bryan, I still see your vision. Times are tough, but still believe in what your vision has been..

2. On the other hand, we have the trolls that say, NO Bryan, never think you were capable..

3. Moving beyond that, you have some that say, at one time yes, but NOW, NO, I don't believe anymore..

We could really push the envelope and say we could possibly have two more items on the list...

4. Like, those (GN & WW maybe?) who HOPE Bryan doesn't bring Pips back.

5. Finally, you have the ones that wish to sit on a fence and watch both sides... Doesn't come back, they can say, I knew it all along. Does come back, they can say, I knew it all along..

Goes back to the thread in the original Pips forum... Either you believe in Bryan Marsden, or you DON'T... Something had to trigger YOUR belief to loan this company money! Last I seen, nobody walked up and down the streets saying, you WILL give them money.. It was of your free will...

So don't come back to me or anybody else in this forum and poke at them for their beliefs... Somebody will eat crow in the end, and if it happens to be me, then I will be the first one to stand in line and grab my share....!

MY OPINION IS MINE, and NOBODY HERE WILL CHANGE THAT!!

AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE, ME, MYSELF, AND I believe PIPS will return!!

4D

Excellent post 4D. You got my support. What you said is 100% truth.

I also feel that person can't be in middle. Either you are for or you are not.
Only person that is in favor in middle is person that joined Pips in late stage. By Pips being in business this long you need to know if Bryan is good or bad by now. If you don't than you must just joined Pips between March - June 2005.

Everything else is irrelevant.

well thank u for seeing my point of view newlife...finally..i joined february 20,2005....so u see where i stand...so thats why, say like u...I am in the middle...not hard to understand...when one takes the time to try and understand...IMHO...Pat

Please add me in the " pips will return" list.

Thanks.

pips4u88

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