Thread: A Humble Request (Merged)

Thank you guys. Whatever we can find, remember or prove not
only refreshes the mind but helps some of our later arrivees
into PIPs, who, understandably, are lost in a void at this
time, sort out the good roots and weeds that choke.

Let us move forward then.
At the time of PIPs birth, Feb 2004, even during the Clone Days,
we had all the e-currencies at our disposal for payment and to
receive commissions. Credit Card facilities too.
PIPs was growing fast. Picpay came into being not long after
launch to take care of all payment processing. We could no longer
withdraw straight from our PIPs account into e-gold or whatever.
Picpay was the gateway now. About this time PI suffered a huge
loss from their e-gold account, quite a substantial amount.
E-gold was abandoned, Stormpay proved to high with their fees
and eventually all e-currencies were dropped.
Picpay then was our only source for any kind of fund movement.
PIPs was gathering momentum, not only with the ordinary internet
user, but with the crooks and villians who are every watchful
for an easy opportunity.
The 6 month chargeback option for CC users was just the opening
needed for a quick kill and they came in droves.
Picpay was never a large office staffed for all eventualities,
certainly not the crissis months later when chargebacks were
rampant, the banks complaining, and every transaction had to
be traced thro picpay accounts that were used to either
launder those ill gotten funds or passed on to innocent members.
These events take us into the fall of 2004, ongoing so that
PI lost eventually, over a million to these crooks and right
up into early 2005 accounts were still being purged.

To be continued

paddy

Originally Posted by Style

I am following.....................keep going gentlemen......(and ladies too)

The bottom line here folks is IMHO, this ALL falls back on Bryan. He is the CEO, it is his responsibility to make sure these things dont happen. He made the choice to leave someone else in charge, when he should have handled it himself. Granted, I am not nor have I ever been in charge of a business the size of PIPS, INC, but I do own 2 businesses (was 3) and I promise you I handle ALL of the important things myself. NOBODY but my wife and I have access to ANY of the money of these businesses. Thats the proper way for a business to be ran.
Bryan is ultimately responsible for what has happened.
But I am intrigued............I am learning a lot here.............please keep going! I am seeing 'some' things in a new light here, but the bottom line is, this still falls on Bryans shoulders, and the lack of respect that he shows us cant be blamed on anybody but himself.


Continue....................I will check back in later.

Yes you owned businesses, but did you travel the world to promote your business and get new members. So are you saying he is to be running the business as he travels the world. Remember, he wasn't on vacation. You need to put someone in charge. With Pips, it was Gary. Was that a mistake? We shall see.

paddy,

what does CC users stand for??

Hence, Style, some us of have maintained from the start that not all is as it seems. Yes, unless you are Jeffery Skilling, I would agree with you. What you don't acknowledge is that Mr. Marsden IS standing up, he's just not speaking publicly. Two very different things. Frustrating? Yes, very much so. But that doesn't make him a thief or a swindler.

Cigar, not ready to talk about that yet. We need to walk, not run, to that place. I have my suspicions about what motivated BNM, but I won't toss out something like that without some solid ground to toss it on.

For now, I'm going to ride Paddy's bus, as it is going the same way that I am. You're not driving, Paddy, I trust as you have a libation coming your way.

Arcturus

Credit Card, pretty.

Credit Card user -prettyctk :)

prettyctk, cc stands for credit cards.

Thank you for your contribution, Mia. I am keenly aware of the Pioneers that sit back shaking their heads, and those that have quietly been working to enlighten those who are late comers to this. I came here because I could no longer stand idly by and watch a car wreck that I could help prevent ---- and I am forever grateful to those who have uplifted my humble attempts to bring reason and integrity into what was becoming a desperate strait.

Yes, the lists are long and surprising, but we get ahead of ourselves. Knowing how long you have been around Mr. Marsden and the programs, please feel free to correct our omissions of ignorance.

Arcturus

I wouldn't label you a cheerleader. If you knew who I was (and I think you may) you would understand. The Honor and integrity we have is all that we can truly call our own. Just as there will be many who will be quite surprised as we travel further down this road, there are an equal number who will look for their name on the list and not find it.

How does the song go......"because the night has a thousand eyes, and a thousand eyes can't help but see........"

More questions for discussion tomorrow, folks. A TOAST to all Pioneers for your foresight. Without you, we wouldn't have gotten this far.

Arcturus

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