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    Ah yes, the Babarajean thread. What a tear jerker it was. Anybody know how's she doing? And yes, after Las Vegas, there was Texas, Florida, and New York, along with a midwest stop. Kansas I believe.

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    Most of the skeptical members are not denying Bryan’s big dreams, good intentions or his humanitarian nature. They are skeptical about Bryan being able to manage the business and creating the return. We don’t know for sure if Bryan is a money wizard. He run MLM’ s before PIPS, who failed one after other, and we have no indication that PIPS created the money.

    Before he created his own 2%, he facilitated members to join (thru Pure Investor’s site) a 2% program which ended up to be a scam (I don’t recall the name of the program). This shows that his expertise is not the best. Also, just by franchising into a program meant to fail from the start (Clone System), tells a lot about his expertise. The closure of some of related PIPS programs (before BN’s intervention) shows that the legal aspects were overlooked, just to give an example of the flaws in his business.

    These are just few of the facts that are influencing some of the members in making up their mind.

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    The 5 year plan was good, just that the governments didn't like it, so Bryan shut it down( supposedly to get it where it would pass government regs). As far as anything else having to shut I'm unaware of it. The 5 year plan was doable just read the program your pushing.

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    Anyway, during the conventions, what did Bryan let out of the bag? Anybody remember? There was a buzz on the forums and Bryan swore everyone to secrecy that attended.

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    HELLO! Ok, I'll give you a hint. It had somthing to do with Pic Reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azmia
    Mike,
    You and I will disagree on the validity of the old 2% program. It was working quite nicely, thankyou. Also there were not just a handful of members who had joined the 2% program while waiting on the clones to begin to mature.
    Azmia,

    You missed my point, I stated the original matrix was the flop, as in growth and commissions, the 2% was a little known entity which most did not invest in at the start for obvious reasons, so again, to make it clear, I didn't say the 2% was not paying, it was, but the lack of growth was what brought GW to the table. I agree with everything else you are recalling, so keep it coming, you obviously were there in the beginning too. (g) What number were you, I was 54.

    Good luck to all, Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by way2go
    Most of the skeptical members are not denying Bryan’s big dreams, good intentions or his humanitarian nature. They are skeptical about Bryan being able to manage the business and creating the return. We don’t know for sure if Bryan is a money wizard. He run MLM’ s before PIPS, who failed one after other, and we have no indication that PIPS created the money.

    Before he created his own 2%, he facilitated members to join (thru Pure Investor’s site) a 2% program which ended up to be a scam (I don’t recall the name of the program). This shows that his expertise is not the best. Also, just by franchising into a program meant to fail from the start (Clone System), tells a lot about his expertise. The closure of some of related PIPS programs (before BN’s intervention) shows that the legal aspects were overlooked, just to give an example of the flaws in his business.

    These are just few of the facts that are influencing some of the members in making up their mind.
    Unfortunately, you are correct, and that was one of my biggest issues from start, especially when pooling was approved for 3% deal in Vegas, I cringed at the thought, and as for the 5Yr deal, same thing, I cringed at the thought knowing regulators would never allow such a deal to be promoted in US, but all the advice from many of us fell on deaf ears just as the warnings about C&D issues in US were ignored.

    Good luck to all, Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by cigarman
    The 5 year plan was good, just that the governments didn't like it, so Bryan shut it down( supposedly to get it where it would pass government regs). As far as anything else having to shut I'm unaware of it. The 5 year plan was doable just read the program your pushing.
    Exactly, it was as if he was driven against all reason to keep the carrot in front of everyone, and little if any due diligence was completed on regulatory issues in US, or other countries for that matter. You don't just pop out with a new financial investment plan without getting legal advice, and this was totally absent from what I saw.

    Good luck to all, Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by way2go
    Most of the skeptical members are not denying Bryan’s big dreams, good intentions or his humanitarian nature. They are skeptical about Bryan being able to manage the business and creating the return. We don’t know for sure if Bryan is a money wizard. He run MLM’ s before PIPS, who failed one after other, and we have no indication that PIPS created the money.

    Before he created his own 2%, he facilitated members to join (thru Pure Investor’s site) a 2% program which ended up to be a scam (I don’t recall the name of the program). This shows that his expertise is not the best. Also, just by franchising into a program meant to fail from the start (Clone System), tells a lot about his expertise. The closure of some of related PIPS programs (before BN’s intervention) shows that the legal aspects were overlooked, just to give an example of the flaws in his business.

    These are just few of the facts that are influencing some of the members in making up their mind.
    Interesting,

    Would CashEvolution happen to ring a bell? This is fun, just like a trivia game. (g)

    Good luck to all, MIke

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    The regulations change so quickly in the US, half the companies here probably wouldn't pass if you want the truth. Don't believe me just pull up any states c&d page and it will shock you.
    ANYWAY, LET'S GET BACK TO THE STORY OF PIPS.

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