Thread: For everyone that has negativity

The same thing that happened to the other forum is starting to happen in this one.
All of the negativity is starting to show through.
Everyone just chill out.
If not, then the same thing will happen to this forum.
It will go Bye Bye.

Instead of letting out your frustrations on Bryan, I suggest you get educated and look behind the
scenes to find out what is happening to our world.
Only then will you understand what the real problem is with our withdrawals.
Reality has sneaked up and bit you in the a**.
Start doing some investigating and reading and you will see.
The evidence is there.
Take off the blinders and you can see who is really in control, and it is not going to change anytime in near future, so get used to it.
If you can't believe the evidence or don't take the time to find out, that is your fault.
If you did find out, you would not be sitting up here in this forum crying.
You would be patient and wait to see what happens.
The more you cry and whine about what is happening, the longer everything will take to et back to normal.
And it will just stress you out.
There has been too much publicity, and this program requires being anonymous.
Laying low.
Just be silent, and wait to see what happens.
I am not going to go into details here, but there is some info on this forum to get you started.
The old forum was much better for this kind of info.
Start with how and why the banks are in control of your money.
Only the beginning.
You have to search and find it for your self, like I did.
If there is nothing to say about the withdrawals, then there is not anything we can do about it.
And it is not a short search. This will take some of your time.

That is why I don't post on this forum.
There has been nothing to say. Everyone can read B's post if they have an account.
Why post something negative?
It will not get your withdrawal moving any faster.
We will get through these times, but just chill out and start to search for the real reason behind this problem.
Do something with your time.
Ok, time to get off the soapbox.

Originally Posted by lostO_O

The same thing that happened to the other forum is starting to happen in this one.
All of the negativity is starting to show through.
Everyone just chill out.
If not, then the same thing will happen to this forum.
It will go Bye Bye.

Instead of letting out your frustrations on Bryan, I suggest you get educated and look behind the
scenes to find out what is happening to our world.
Only then will you understand what the real problem is with our withdrawals.
Reality has sneaked up and bit you in the a**.
Start doing some investigating and reading and you will see.
The evidence is there.
Take off the blinders and you can see who is really in control, and it is not going to change anytime in near future, so get used to it.
If you can't believe the evidence or don't take the time to find out, that is your fault.
If you did find out, you would not be sitting up here in this forum crying.
You would be patient and wait to see what happens.
The more you cry and whine about what is happening, the longer everything will take to et back to normal.
And it will just stress you out.
There has been too much publicity, and this program requires being anonymous.
Laying low.
Just be silent, and wait to see what happens.
I am not going to go into details here, but there is some info on this forum to get you started.
The old forum was much better for this kind of info.
Start with how and why the banks are in control of your money.
Only the beginning.
You have to search and find it for your self, like I did.
If there is nothing to say about the withdrawals, then there is not anything we can do about it.
And it is not a short search. This will take some of your time.

That is why I don't post on this forum.
There has been nothing to say. Everyone can read B's post if they have an account.
Why post something negative?
It will not get your withdrawal moving any faster.
We will get through these times, but just chill out and start to search for the real reason behind this problem.
Do something with your time.
Ok, time to get off the soapbox.

BUT!!!! Bryan says one thing and it turns out its not true! That on top of withdrawls being 7 months behind is going to breed negativity OR somone is really naive/in a coma. Pipsaid winners HAVE NOT been paid yet despite bryans brash and arrogant update saying otherwise and that was 2.5 months ago and hyer still hasn't gotten paid.

My GCards from 5/28 are marked shipped but my merchant STILL hasn't gotten paid.

Support is a joke as it seems they have a scripted response to any inquiries.

So what are the positives?? That a bible DVD was made? That bryan is in the bistro eating steak while i'm eating taco bell?

Newflash the dvd's/bistro/fashion aid were created from money We LOANED bryan. So we as loaners are looking for our return.

All that are going to bash in their response lets see where we are in december.. I bet you not anymore progress will be made.. sadly I said the same thing 3 months ago saying by summer there will be no progress and I was banned and guess what!! look where we are now.


Wasn't VAT going to be up and running in 2 weeks from 3 months ago? Nonsense.

Sadly also I research bryan mardsen on the web and he has a history of running doublers/ponzi's that have failed. It seems the early pioneers in pips were from a failed ponzi he was running before..

Don't expect pips to be rolled into another ponzi/pips program as now everyone knows about pips since it has gotten so large.

That bryan is in the bistro eating steak while i'm eating taco bell?



that is just too funny.. true for me as well, haha

WHAT!!!! You guys can afford to eat at Taco Bell. Man, I hope to be as rich as you are some day. I can only dream.

- TwiceWise

lostO_O ,

Thank you for the post.... I agree with you....
The one who is not thinking positive has problems with themselfs....
Put the negativity out on someting else than in the forum. Try to go out
in the nature and feel the real thing while waiting maybe you find out
why you are breathing...

Hang on Guys.

Lets try to cool down. It seems those telling the ones who feel anger not too, are adding fuel to the fire with thier "all is well" almost fairy mentality. Please dont.
I believe we are in days of turbulance and to feel concerned is normal due to the large volume of fraud and falce promises that exist outside of P**S.

Guys on the other hand there is not a lot we can do at this point other then to maintain contact with others and try to remain positive while ever P***S has life in it.

Please dont swing overboard either way but every person try to maintain control.

Freedom

I have written this because of what Freedom has said:


It is very interesting to observe that in general people's views are very polarised. They either write as if they see BM as some kind of messiah or they see him as a villain who has grabbed their money.On both sides people are getting very worked up and flame whoever disagrees with them no matter what the argument.

The cheer leaders appear to be in total denial and the naysayers (how I hate that word) have written PIPS off for good. The truth probably lies in between. BM and his team are very reactionary as opposed to proactionary and this has led to all the trouble. Also the PR side of PIPS is very poor and they have enormous problems with the IT staff who would have been better employed from Japan or USA from where the experts come. They are supposed to be astute business people but have not been able to see all the issues coming that have so seriously affected everything that they have tried to do. BM's motives are admirable but he cannot deliver because of too many outside forces which have seriously undermined and damaged the programme. For example the Australian bank, why did they not check out the fees first when they decided to use it? Also why suspend WTs when they could have still continued them whilst trying to renegotiate the fees.

The debacle with DC's has been the biggest farce ever, no other company would have got away with that. GN suspended payments to them in a most arbitrary way. This is a level of arrogance that is regularly shown towards the membership and does nothng to promote goodwill or harmony.

Now when someone queries something the hardy perrenial of 'you should not have risked more than you can afford ' comes up and in most cases that tiresome cliche is not relevant at the time of the member's complaint. For example, the suspension of 5YTP and DRB refunds has nothing to do with the extremely high risk 2% programme that promises so much but at present cannot deliver.

People see the enormous ROL and are almost bewitched by it; electronic figures on a spread sheet have turned their heads. The maths are meaningless because those calculations are just too huge to be affordable for any company but they look so nice on paper and of course people want a slice of that action. The cheer leaders refuse to accept this because it would make them look silly, as in many cases they have sold the idea to friends and family and they now don't want to look foolish.

To those who do feel very negative( and you have every right to feel disillusioned) I say this: FORGET ABOUT PIPS. Go away get on with your lives and don't keep looking at your accounts. Whatever you think or want done, BM and Co will not listen nor take on board any ideas you might have because that means they would lose credibility and of course they are in charge - not we. None of us can do a thing to prevent PIPS's demise or success.

Yes it is rotten luck, because hundreds of 'little people' who did not need vast amounts in order to improve their lives will be the ones who suffer most. Those who say they have already had alot of money out of PIPS are probably very well off to start with otherwise they could not a have afforded the initial investments and they are probably involved in many other money making schemes.

In September there is a mini convention in Belgium and another in USA, it will be very interesting to see what transpires from those two events. It is less than two months away and one would hope that there maybe some movement with the funds. Those going will be very vocal I am sure when they see BM. He then can talk face to face with members and tell them exactly what is happening - it is an opportunity to set the record straight.

Those of you out there who verbally attack those who complain that they are still waiting after seven months to get out money should really shut up, you don't know people's personal circumstances and some of the nasty remarks I have read are well out of order.

One last comment to all. What do the members do who never read Forums,and there are hundreds, how on earth do they know what is really going on? There should be more auto-generated e-mails to members only, informing them of the critical issues particularly with Picpay.

I sincerely hope that over the next few weeks we ALL get to learn exactly the future of the programme. Patience is one of the hardest virtues to sustain but really right now not one of us has any other choice.

Good wishes and good luck to us all.

Galadriel (UK) Expecting the worst but hoping for the best.

Show me the money, I can't spend positive thoughts...facts are real.

Galadriel,

I respect your view and the need to share as you did, I feel though your post was slanted towards the demise of P**S rather then its success and though I do not personally agree, I do feel you have the right to share.
We are here I guess sharing and reading day after day hoping to gleam affirmation we have stood by a man and a company who will in the end bring some of our dreams to fruition. I think negative people can easily be picked and in general there life would be one of all round negitiveness. This I don’t feel is you. I read years ago an apt quote that sums this up. Two men were in prison. They both looked out the window.... one saw the stars, the other the dirt. For you to invest in the first place you must have had some belief that it was possible that P**S could break records in the business world.

I’m not asking any member to put on shutters, what I am asking is that we remain in control of our emotions and commit to God what ever else we cannot control.
P**S is not dead so lets not give it a burial ceremony.
Freedom.

Nice one Freedom,

BM will come through for us.