Thread: Re Imagine, don't die in your footsteps.

Originally Posted by dusano

I feel really sorry for you that you mixed up communism/
sosiolism with people, who have (in some cases) given theirs lives to create a better world for you and me.
With all respect, but whatever money is coming to you from P'ps in the future, it will not make you happy.
That's the sadness I feel.

Dusano.

Important part is that your objectives are correct. People you used are just example of some that did some good for society. We have many others that could be added to list.

You are good hearted man Dusano.

I loved your post!
Karin
Ps. I only see one socialist: Nelson Mandela. The others are/were not!
And I'm not even sure HE is...

Very good post, dear Brother! Nothing to add to this! All you say are my thoughts too! I hope these 16000-17000 Rolclub members really read your post. Unfortunately there will be many who only will continue to be occupied with themselves.

Langnes

Originally Posted by way2go

Huh ?

For the sake of a fair discussion, I take the liberty to translate your answer into "be in shock" or "totally surprised" and I do understand that.
It was not my mening to confuse you.

For those who are familiar with the old P*PS Forum, know
what I meant by that.
For those who don't know that Forum or simply have over-
looked a couple of threads on that Forum, I can say the
following. Those treads were on that forum appr. 8/9 months ago and written by the pioneers in P*PS.

If my memory serves me well, all of them stated that no-
body ever lost a dime due to the following facts.
The first program went down due to a large investment that turned out to be an empty box. Bryan put all the members in Golden Lomp and bought them in with his own money.
When Golden Lomp went broke he offered all the members
a share in the wellknown 2% program.
Those members have earned big money untill the moment
the trouble with the banks started.
All those members have always comfirmed the integrity
of Bryan and Sharon and many have met Bryan.
That's why I stated that nobody in P*PS can say to have
lost any money in the last 5 years and nobody have ever
claimed to have lost money.

It's for Bryan much harder to deal with a lack of support
from the members, in considering the members as his family, than to deal with the hardness of this world.
Think how you would feel when you would not have the full
support of your partner in questioning your integrity all
the time.
It says a lot of Bryan's caracter that he's still fighting for
you and me. He should be honored for that willpower, like
so many in our world who fight everyday to make our world
a little better. Even in your own neightborhood you can
find them.
All of us are strong and weak at the same time, but the
point is to have respect for both qualities.
In my way of thinking a man who shows his feelings and
can cry with others is a strong man, but others would say
he's weak. Unfortunately that's the way it is, since the
human race came to earth.

I hope you will have respect for my opinion and for those
who have not, I still take a drink with you on the next
convention and talk about it. Fear deal isn't?

Dusano.

Dusano,

Thank you for your detailed explanation. I always respected others opinions even if they differ of mine, and of course I respect yours.

There are some corrections to be made to your post. First of all it is Golden Womb not Lomb.

Golden Womb was a downline club used to fill in different programs. Bryan didn't pay anybody's way in Golden Womb, rather Golden Womb members joined Pure Investor Clone program (a new franchise between Bryan and Golden Womb's admin) with a $850 joining fee/account (paid in a few installments).

The deal was that after a certain# of members were joining, the matrix will somehow feed itself and everybody will start making a profit (some top positions were making money from the start).

There was a flaw in the concept therefore when Bryan realized that new members need to keep joining (I believe in a pattern of 2,000/month) in order for the program to survive, he brought in PIPS. Members got a free position in PIPS worth $450, but remember that everybody paid their way in clone program with $850 and only a few were making a good profit during clone days. Nobody except Bryan really knows if there were enough money in clones to pay everybody's way in PIPS or if Bryan needed to contribute some of his money.

My "Huh?" comment was indeed very cryptic, I will explain now what I meant.
I don't know Bryan's older programs, but I know that prior to Clone program was Pure Investor, which was a MLM program. It is well known that in MLM some earn and the most are losing.

I was also referring to PIPS, there are posts all over the forum stating huge losses.

Thank you again for your decent, civilized approach.

Golden Womb was a downline club used to fill in different programs. Bryan didn't pay anybody's way in Golden Womb, rather Golden Womb members joined Pure Investor Clone program (a new franchise between Bryan and Golden Womb's admin) with a $850 joining fee/account (paid in a few installments).

Sorry, GW was NOT a downline club!
It is important to know that GW was NOT Bryan's program. GW used the pureinvestor platform and Bryan administered it for GW.

You also forget to mention that the $850 paid by GW members didn't go into BM's pockets. It was all paid out to the members so therefore GW members all started in pips with out of pocket payment from BM. Within two months, all had their original $850 back in their pips account.

GW was used to fill out different MLM programs therefore I named it downline club. Everybody joined under Golden Womb and they were distributed conform to the program's specific matrix structure (mostly forced matrixes). Not a typical downline club but still. I remember one of these programs prior to Clones was IWS.

I never said that GW was Bryan's program.

We don't know how much of the clones money was paid back to the members, therefore my comment was "Nobody except Bryan really knows if there were enough money in clones to pay everybody's way in PIPS or if Bryan needed to contribute some of his money". This doesn't exclude the possibility that indeed there was no money left and Bryan grandfathered us in.
Bryan is the only one knowing the truth.

DUSANO

Nice post and also full of information for some of us....Thank you Patseek

Yes DUSANO Great post. The true philantrophic style I think BM was trying to achieve. It seems the world does not have enough of "our" kind. Can we go underground from the 50mil that control the money? Seems they are driving us there to prevent theft or misdoings from them. I have empathy for BM considering the tone of his last post. Surely he knows we are not all trashbags. Lets keep focus. Live long and prosper,Juni.