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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcturusI
    One further caution: Translation is an art. What gets lost is the intent. Think of the word "Bad" or "Cool". Translate it literally and you may lose the intent of the conversation. For all of those who speak more than one language, you will understand what I mean (and you already know that the English language is really a mess, compared to most others).
    Too often things get lost in translation or are misconstrued. Thank you for these posts, your analysis of the situation is excellent.
    When you are angry or frustrated, think: How will this affect my life in a few years time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Largo
    My dear fellows,

    Let's not forget the MIRACLES...
    No matter what is considered as facts or truths or logic...
    miracles STILL do happen...

    Now it's hard to believe that the outcome of the investigation should be revealed soon, or Very Soon, for that matter, if you look only to the facts and truths regarding this issue or if you even apply logic to it...It all seems to DRAG OUT IN TIME...and looking at what OFFICIAL answers we have from the Bank to the Swedish Embassy...it doesn't look that good at all...so to PREDICT that there will be a POSITIVE OUTCOME VERY SOON...will be considered as "balony"...or wishful thinking...

    Of course all KNOWS that investigations takes looonnggg time...
    Of course all KNOWS that you can't win against Big Brother...
    Of course all KNOWS that all banks are to powerful..so BM can't win...
    We all KNOW all these things...

    BUT...then there is the MIRACLE...

    MIRACLES DO HAPPEN...OR?

    Let me give you an example...

    Let's go back in time to 1989:
    At that time:

    Everybody KNEW that the Soviet Union was as powerful as the USA...
    Everybody KNEW that the Soviet Union could not be taken down...
    Everybody Knew that it would take a Global Nuclear War to do this...
    But that would bring us all down...

    What Happened in just a FEW WEEKS...?

    The WHOLE OF SOVIET UNION was taken down by a MIRACLE...
    That's my explanation any how...I believe that it was taken down by PURE THOUGHT...

    What's YOUR explanation...?

    It's Only MY OWN Thoughts

    Largo
    NOPE..... it was a matter of time turn history with the advent of a Pope!

    And again...the thought of anything facing parallel outcomes will depend on the making of our man made evolution... which is subject and dependence on how we deal current calamity...whether we treat seriously, wrongly or from sheer deliberate ignorance, the result will depend on who is (are) involved to make the difference...a question of universal timing too...

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    YB,

    So you've read Tom Clancy's "Red Rabbit"...or?

    The point I'm making is that ANYTHING UNPREDICTABLE CAN HAPPEN...
    no matter what analysis or logic is applied to the matter by COMMON PEOPLE...PRO or LAYMAN...us the citizens...

    AND It DOES HAPPEN...

    for example...

    I NEVER would have thought in my wildest fantasy that YOU of all people, would try to answer my question...

    Largo

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    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is `proof` against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ingnorance---

    That Principle is Contempt Pior To Investigation

    `Herbert Spencer`
    Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant.
    - Robert Louis Stevenson

    He Who Provides For This Life But Takes No Care For Eternity Is Wise For A Moment; `But A Fool Forever`.

    When The Power Of Love Out Weighs The Love Of Power; Then We Will Have Peace


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    Great Post arcturus1 and Ming !!!
    If everyone would Only think for themselves !

    Mike
    Last edited by weathernut; 08-02-2006 at 07:41 PM.

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    ABSOLUTELY... Amazing Posts!.....with Even More AMAZING Thoughts!......

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    No one can teach a man to think for himself, nor can any one learn for another but if one man can show a man how to think by giving a direction or path to which he can go which will spark his mind into desiring original thought then it is worth that day of living.

    I have seen that day pass and that is good.

    Largo you say that you believe in miracles - it is that you have faith my friend that you believe in miracles. For those that do not have faith because they can not allow their minds to escape the confinds of their heads, they will not see or believe in miracles. When your mind is free to see all this is then you will find your mind seeing great things happen. Soon your mind does not see a miracle it expects it as a common place happening within the universe.

    Ouantum happenings are common place when you live with a dream state where all things are always possible because all things evolve from the meer thought from ones mind. It is not as one believes or is another mans opinion, it is a matter of fact within the universe that this state is. When you have gained this state of living and thinking then it is not hard to take what is put before you and determine that such facts are or are not seen in the multi demensional state. Only when we see all sides of the facts do we see the truth. Truth above all things hold the answers and if we can not see the facts in their entire state we cannot know the truth.

    We must therefore show all members that they should not take any of what has been said here as the truth. There is no truth as it stands now. If one comes to this forum with information that they deem as important in the progress of the investigation or resolve of this whole issue it has to be determined that they have an agenda beyond being gracious to our thinking minds. One may see a the same fact one way and another see it a totally different way therefore what they will give to the members is how they see it, it will be their view of it and not a complete unbiased multi demensional view that could be used by any mind as such a view will be totally unbiased. We have not see such facts, they just are not there. The only facts that have come to surface are the demensions that are meant to be seen. All other sides have been kept with a veil of secrecy for a reason.

    Give you mind a chance and take in only that which is pure. Do not take in another mans thought, leave your mind to create its own. No man can take your thought away, it is the one of the greatest powers you have within your own will. I aim here to allow all members to discover this - with this power no one will hold you hostage to untrue facts or speculation. You will demand only complete facts or truth. You will be satisfied until all is revealed.

    Ming

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    Thanks Ming,
    for your Inspiring Words...
    So you mean I just have to be Myself and Decide to Expand My Very INNER Thoughts...?

    Could it be that Easy...?

    TRULY AMAZING...

    Largo

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    "...Truth?!? What is Truth?....."
    ----Pontious Pilot


    It is a slippery slope that one walks when one attempts to discern the thoughts of another. It is a most dangerous game when one assumes the responsibility of speaking for another.

    MingDynasty, your words carry a wisdom that I pray will not be lost on the membership, and they carry a warning to all of those who would betray the thoughts of the many, all for the gratification of the few. Heresy, in it's purist form, is unreliable. Commonly used, it is anathema.

    It is understood that frustration currently rules the day. It is also understood that many are impatient. Far be it for me to remind those who loaned monies that, in most business, the term "Cetaris Parabis" is resoundingly appropriate - it means "Buyer Beware". There is no such thing as a "sure thing". The current Powerball jackpot is over $250Million; your chances of winning are less than being fatally struck by lightning. Yet, how many will buy a chance at a dream?

    Examine what has happened to the collective psyche of the 'Pipsters' over the last 14 months. What began as constructive criticism quickly degenerated into abuse and negativity. As with human nature, it became easier to follow than to lead, or simply stand by and witness. When asked to wait, those demanded action. When action was not forthcoming, the abuse began in ernest, and attacking the source became the norm.

    How many have experienced the fruits of this labor? How many have experienced a change? What does it say about our own constitution when we can be so easily moved along the spectrum of personal emotion, and surrender self control and self determination?

    LARGO: It is not enough to expand our inner thought and "speak your mind". Discretion, discipline, and integrity MUST be a part of what we do, what we are, what we say. If we abuse indiscriminately, what does that say about ourselves? If we blindly follow where others lead, what is gained? The only real power is knowledge. What we do with that power demonstrates our innermost being.

    Those who do not know are busy screaming from the rooftops because they crave this power; those who know are calmly going about the business of the day. No one (I am aware of) enjoys helplessness. No one likes to be kept in the dark. How, then, do we turn on the light? By heaping abuse upon that which we desire? By derailing the thought train because it's inconvenient and uncomfortable?

    Assemble the pieces on your own. Ming is correct. Put energy into seeing the structure from all sides. Think of the story of the 5 blind men and the elephant. Then, read the story of "The Beggar and the Diamond". If you still need more, consider this - If it doesn't work, are you worse off tomorrow than today? If it does work..........................

    Arcturus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Largo
    Thanks Ming,
    for your Inspiring Words...
    So you mean I just have to be Myself and Decide to Expand My Very INNER Thoughts...?

    Could it be that Easy...?

    TRULY AMAZING...

    Largo

    Arcturus Wrote:
    LARGO: It is not enough to expand our inner thought and "speak your mind". Discretion, discipline, and integrity MUST be a part of what we do, what we are, what we say. If we abuse indiscriminately, what does that say about ourselves? If we blindly follow where others lead, what is gained? The only real power is knowledge. What we do with that power demonstrates our innermost being.

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    Well Arcturus,
    Maybe I simplified my thoughts too much…

    What I mean by “Being My Self” is expressing the very qualities I was created with…
    Because in MY UNIVERSE, a Supreme Power CREATED ME…and as I also believe, after a lifetime of experiencing and studying LIFE, I believe that I was created with some INBORN Qualities…AND given the gift to CREATE my own life.

    I’ve also found out that when I “listen to my heart” and act accordingly…considering your words: “Discretion, discipline, and integrity MUST be a part of what we do, what we are, what we say”.…there is progress…meaning… there is more LIFE in a positive sense.

    I’ve found MY OWN Inner qualities to be quite the same as I can see OTHER Beings manifesting in their struggle to create their Life…

    AND, My experience tells me that when I manifest and/or express these common qualities…There will always be a positive outcome in the end.

    These Qualities...added to your suggestions above are:

    Prudence
    Justice
    Fortitude
    Temperance
    and by animating these qualities with the vibrations of:
    Faith
    Hope
    Love….
    …One gets a High Quality result…

    Well… that’s the LONG VERSION of my answer…

    So when BEING MYSELF and by expressing MY INNER thoughts USING all these qualities…there will be a Positive Outcome at the end…

    SO…IMHO…If we as Unique Individuals of the Pipster-group, each and everyone of us, used this strategy when CREATING Our Own INDIVIDUAL Reality of what we want the OUTCOME of the investigation to be…
    I can ONLY see SUCCESS…

    But again…

    It’s Only MY OWN Thoughts

    Largo
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