This is my very first post here and I cannot believe the insensitivity, the lack of knowledge or understanding about running a business, far less dealing with the banking fraternity.
Firstly, we all went into this with our eyes wide open. If you had yours shut, then too bad. I don't feel at all sorry for you. You KNEW it was a risk, as are all things in life.l If you put yourself at risk, then why blame anyone else.
Secondly each country has its own way of dealing with their internal matters to do with commerce. If you live in my country, Australia, then you will know just how corrupt the whole system is starting with the judiciary and finishing with the councils who set themselves up illegally. Not to mention the government and Parliamentarians who spend their time feathering their own nests rather than representing the will of the people.
Thirdly, the banks! If you haven't worked out yet that they are also corrupt and owned by very interesting organisations - why not do a quick check! These organisations are not about to allow a lot of money get out of their hands without a fight. Politicians in the States have tightened up the whole shebang and called it Protection from Terrorism for us! Ha! By holding onto this money they can actually use it for trading for their own benefit. I am assuming you realise that your money was no doubt tied up with some form of institution such as a Trust or Bank! Why don't you check who owns the major banks! You may get a surprise.
I have spent the past year helping a friend bring some money of hers into this country. It is a LOT of money. We have been privy to the subterfuge, conivances, and cheating, fraudulent practises of some of these so-called reputable banks. It is terrifying. You think your money is safe in a bank. Better check the fine print! Let me know if you find even one which honours their word.
Lastly, you have been given an opportunity to learn and experience the sort of thing which happens in this crazy world of ours first hand when you deal with money and loans. It is not always the person who told you about it who is at fault. Indeed, there are usually many players in this game. Learn to play the game, or live with it is usually the best course of action.
But please stop the whining! It doesn't do your credibility much good nor does it help anything. You sound like children.
Things WILL change. I can promise you that, based on the study of history! I can also tell you that the future can be foretold in some cases by various means, as is has been done in the past. Changes are happening and more are about to happen for us all. The winds of change are blowing hard. If not yet, then we have to learn to live with it and accept and get on with our lives. Simple as that.
By the way, I am not well off either, with just a pension to show for my work effort with partners and husbands, but I am not complaining about it. In fact I am lucky in a way, as I still have access to a computer and the internet and have friends and live a simple life. Sure, it is a different life to what I expected, but it may be good training for what is to come. Makes you appreciate the good times, doesn't it!
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07-02-2006, 10:12 PM #141
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For goodness sake - grow up out there!
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get over it
i think u all should just stop moaning and groaning... face the facts, pips is dead! there is no money, all gone! been spent on pips bistros, pips coffe house, fasion etc! so move on guys!
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Thank Marek for your insistant. Bryan need to be very true and transparent in this... as LOTS of people is pinning their hope in him and for the coming future.
But look Marek, if majority of the pipster rised up to force Bryan to the edge, he may run and may be left with nothing at all. Let's give him a benefit of a doubt, if he say he is busy 36hours, let it be.
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07-02-2006, 10:26 PM #144
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Rolo Club. Please don't mess this pips thing up for us again. It is going to take however long it is going to take to get it up and running. I for one say back off and let it work. I to have money in it and do not want to loose it all because someone is impatient and causes new investigation or new problems. Please stop.
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My reaction to Bryan and Admin's thread.
To: Bryan
I agree with you wholeheartedly, that people who cannot wait and dip their nitty finger by contacting BON, could give them feeling of adamant to the resolution of the case. The more that they will have to waith further end keep looking at PIP's serious fault fault and offenses.
On the other hand, the long gap from the latest up-date has also put everyone's nerve edgy.
Anyway, bottomline for me Bryan is that I will really go with you all the way. And I still believe that resolution is near in sight if only we don't butt-in and pry on where we should not.
My prayers will always include you and Sharon.
All the best wishes,
Actionman
TO: Admin (Marek)
Your enthusiasm to get an up-date for the sake of PIPs members is well-taken. But the idea, I believe is uncalled for since the investigative process is on-going. It may seem that you are losing hope, and want to drag others to negativism.
All I can say is whoa, stop... this is not the time to lose hope. Not the time to pry on (even if it involves PIPs members.) BON has a law to follow. Whatever, info they have given you lately is not official. So, let us not rock the boat while the wave is still restless.
Let us all keep calm otherwise, our endorphins will not function to the hilt. Nevertheless, the thought of Marek trying to be somewhat of help is greatly appreciated I'm sure.
And next time, we are 1 mistake wiser NOT TO pry into the case, if we don't have any solution to provide for an early resolution.
More power to rolclub for its website services.
Sincerely,
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The best thing that is good for everyone is just keep calm and settle down. No use bickering, speculating, and opinionating as it won't do any good.
We have all reach this point of waiting patiently... why be impatient now? I don't know BM and vis a vis. But for sure all his moves are for the betterment of all PIPs member (even those who are getting negative and suffering from lost hope and anxiety.)
Let us all focus on the positive outcome. A united telepathic wave from all of us toward the mind of BON directors may do wonder. At 12 midnight tonight, I will meditate and perform positive telepathic positive message to BON directors to wrap up the case positively in favor of PIPs and BM. If we all do it simulteneously I might work wonders.
Give it a try tonight.
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07-02-2006, 10:51 PM #147
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Thank you Marek for looking into the situation.
The reality is that PIPS was to have been an investment opportunity. It is an investment that has sadly failed to date.
People have the proven tendency to hold onto a loss more the larger it becomes.
This is my first post. I don't even know why I felt the need to write it. I just honestly believe that all our "prayers" and "energies" (words used by other members of ROL club in favor of Bryan Marsden) be properly directed to each other, the members left who are at a loss due to the ineffective performance of the PIPS plan.
This has nothing to do with my personal opinions of PIPS. Put PIPS in the background and move forward. If it comes back as a viable program then YIPPEE. But for now I hope the people who invested thier $$$ and dreams quit trying to take their frustrations out on each other.
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Marek....u did right by calling BoN yourself....as u stated,rolclub and this forum is about keeping the people of pips....fellow pipsters as informed as can b....i joined in feb. of 2005..... i have heard the word"""SOON"""...used by Bryan or some of his crusaders like Newlife till i'm blue in the face....i'm beginning to beleve ""SOON"" to people like them is when they r ready or satisfied....i for one applaud ur decision...keep up the good work for the benefit of the pipsters....have a nice day...Pat
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has anyone ever been ponzied?
I have and this seems just like it was the first time in 1999. Some people get some money up front and tell every body. Hey I got my withdraw! Great! Then we wait and what happens next, here come the feds. And the whole thing goes away! Good by,money. But I knew going in that this might be the case and I did not put in money that I could not do without. Live and learn! If Bryan is staarving, I don't believe. Can anyone answer that question? Come On! Please give me a good answer.
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For mrlover, on the opening page of the Pips site everyone was admonished that is always a risk and not to invest money you cannot afford to lose. So it is not BM's fault if you are in that situation.
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