I don't know where you're coming from Hassle, but you are way out in left field on this one.
There are many loyal Pipsters who are not a member of this forum, either by choice or because they have been banned. There are small forums around where loyal members are discussing and exchanging news without commercialism or yelling matches between each other. (Not saying that that is all that happens here). There are also a great number of members who do not speak English and would not be a member here for that reason alone.
I also have my doubts about the exact number of members of ROL. I know many members who receive more than 1 e-mail from the admin, so I would assume that the number of members is the number of e-mail addresses in the system instead.
What do you base your statement on that without Marek or ROL there would be no lottery? Marek set up this forum against the express wishes of Bryan when the old Pips forum closed. Nevertheless they have built up a large membership (no matter what the numbers are, it is substantial), but, if I remmember correctly, the number of Pips members would run betwee 250.000 and 300.000 (not sure about the exact numbers, Bryan can correct me on this). There are many, many members who have never been on any forum but who are suppoters nevertheless. Forum dwellers are also not always posters. Only a very small amount of people keep all the forums going for varies reasons. Some like to vent their frustrations, other like to be cheerleaders.
Back to my questions above ... why would there not be a lotto with Marek? What contributions did this forum make to Bryan's effort, except for allowing a discussion on the size of the matrix? The intentions have always been based on making this a better world for all, not just for a happy few. Their are enough of those kind of ideas.
Cheers
Jan
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03-01-2006, 12:22 PM #11catja2Guest
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03-01-2006, 12:25 PM #12
Hassle,
Hate to tell you this, but there are many, many loyal Pipsters that belong to other forums, who for various reasons are not members of RolClub.
Marek, together with his moderators, has done an excellent job with this forum. I think though, it would be naive to believe that the "most loyal Pipsters are here". What about those on the forums where English is a second language and they use their country's forums to stay in contact and tofind out what is going on. It is where they feel more comfortable. I can assure you they would be monitoring closely all that is happening through their own means without visiting RolClub. These people, other loyal Pipsters, need to be considered as well.
(And no! the Aussie forum is not an ESL forum... just in case some of you were wondering; we do manage to speak some form of English there! :))
warm regards
mezWhen you are angry or frustrated, think: How will this affect my life in a few years time?
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03-01-2006, 12:26 PM #13
lol... and what Jan said too! :)
When you are angry or frustrated, think: How will this affect my life in a few years time?
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03-01-2006, 12:30 PM #14catja2Guest
....... and don't forget to read the addition by Mezzy....... never knew that there are still people downunder who consider that they speak English .....
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03-01-2006, 12:54 PM #15
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Hassle,
I think your reasoning is flawed. The silent majority of members may very well be as loyals as the members that are here.
Another flaw is you flipping mechanism.
When you flip the matrix, the levels 1 to 9 will be populated by those who were on level 10. That means that half of those who were in level 10, will end up in level 9, 25% will end up in level 8.Regards,
4P
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03-01-2006, 12:56 PM #16
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Originally Posted by catja2
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03-01-2006, 12:59 PM #17catja2Guest
I was hoping to get some reaction ...... and you're right, I wasn't serious about that part. For the rest I was ......
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03-01-2006, 01:09 PM #18
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fair enough.
4profit, you are right on both counts.
my apologies to the silent majority and for the silly flip idea.
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hassle,
stop being such a "hassle" go to sleep, or go back over to your other forum...
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Just my thoughts or 2 cents worth
Dear Bryan
Just want to say thanks for hanging in there for the good of us all.
I know there are many Pipsters out there that would love to hear some news from you and I realize you probably don't have access all their email adresses at this time.
I've been in network marketing for a long time so I know how fast word of mouth advertising can spread. So I would like to suggest instead of ????? Lottery
how about ????? Aid or ????? Humanitarian Aid. I think that could include and touch more people in the long run. I love the matrice and also love the ticket idea I'am just a little iffy on the lotto part.
I believe this could gain world wide support and more people will good about buying tickets and the compensation plan.
I apreciate every thing you are doing for us.
Can't hardly wait till all comes back together
omcelveenLast edited by omcelveen; 03-01-2006 at 05:09 PM.
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