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    Quote Originally Posted by Largo
    Then it is very strange:

    Suzanna wrote:
    Tom (topwinners) has been asked directly, here and in the inner circle, what he has to say on the subject and he has chosen to remain mute.

    Why didn't you tell them TOM..what you and BM had agreed on?

    Strange isn't it ?

    Largo
    Largo, stop pushing the issue!! Do yourself a favor, stay away from the forum a few days and get some fresh air!!! It'll do you a world of good. Geezzzz

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    GREAT JOB MAREK, YOUR KICKING BUTT :O)


    WAY TO GO, YOU MADE MY DAY!!


    warmest regards


    necromancer

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucandoitbry
    Ironically, I've only just read this forum for the first time. My first post even. This is the first thread I've checked out, and my initial reaction to the first message was WOW, and what a great admin guy that must be respected by Bryan for him to have responded. As he stated whether you believe it or not is up to you and check it out yourselves with Bryan now or later.

    However, as I read through and through, I've just got totally confused, and must admit with some of the postings thought I was actually visiting a TG forum!!

    Seriously guys, why oh why do you do it? Why don't you appreciate postings, ask sensible non threatening questions and stop cluttering up the worth of a thread by putting meaningless or nasty/snide remarks. Objectivity and questioning is good, but how it's presented and responded to, why not give it some thought and sensibility.

    There were a couple of valid questions posted here that I notice haven't been answered and I wonder if they'll get lost in the masses of the meaningless ones. Such as the one regarding ROL still accruing.

    Most importantly: Does anyone know if there is actual money being traded daily, to continue with the ROL we were promised (and remember it is not 1.9% per day when you take into account the spent units value at the end of 180 days, so let's get that 2% per day out of our heads eh?).

    Whilst I agree with figures sounding ridiculous when you go out 5+ years, it is still possible with setting good stop losses, experience, and having more winning than losing trades to obtain (when averaged across several days) the figures Bryan originally promised us.

    "If" and it is an "if" as none of us knows for sure, Bryan used our funds and not surplus profits made from trading after putting aside our ROL promised returns, to set up these other businesses, then, I have my own thoughts on that, and I'm not going to write them here as some smart Alec I'm sure will try to tear me apart somewhere. If however, he set up these other businesses with surplus profits from trading after allocating the daily ROL aside that was needed to meet the promises to members, then what is the harm? If they close down because they are not self supporting, it shouldn't effect our returns.

    This ROLclub has been getting some really good comments in another forum I've been a member of since PIPs closed it's doors, hence why I decided to register and check it out here.

    My first impressions are: Admin, you appear to be trying over and above to find out factual information for the members, and trying to post valuable info, however, I just hope you don't get so disgruntled by some of the pathetic comments from a few that you just give up on this board and start to feel as Bryan did at the end of the day, long before this summer. It'll be sad if you do for many of the truly genuine people here, but I for one wouldn't blame you. You undoubtedly will decide which information is valuable and to post it in a locked environment.

    Another idea I thought of, and I'm sure someone will give it negative commentary, that might benefit many members, and avoid much speculative comments, is: If you Admin/Marek can contact Bryan once a month or even every couple of months, as he obviously has respect to talk with you, could you not poise some questions of validity to him to help genuine members understand. Explaining you want to place these and the answers from him in a locked environment. He may be prepared to answer some or he could comment where necessary 'unable to answer at this time to protect the program's future for genuine members' those that really could be used to cause more problems.

    Maybe we could have a thread started along the lines of Sensible Questions Admin Could Poise To Bryan Next Month - Cut off date say 15th October or whatever you decide. I do think sensible and serious members that want to still believe in PIPs and Bryan have quite a few concerns over why certain answers/updates have not been forthcoming. Not that there's anything we can do about it, but it surely would see Bryan's credibility improve substantially by being around once in a blue moon (no pathetic comments here about, "him not having the time - it may take him a few minutes to up of an hour at most to answer a few questions".

    These could be questions, in a logical format such as (these are just a few suggestions, that I think would be of interest to many:

    a) Are You Still Trading The Funds?

    b) Could members not visit somewhere to see the daily returns being achieved by the traders (lots of forex traders offer this showing losses and gains and overall average return for the day, week, month etc).

    c) Where are the monies and in what percentage proportion? Malaysia, Panama,???

    d) All anyone wants to know from the man himself is some hard concrete facts of what really is going on. I for one would commend him along with a lot of others if he even admitted "guess wot, we screwed up on this or that" Tell the truth and shame the devil, but equally I appreciate we shouldn't be given info that gives malicious people more fuel to add to their fire.

    Just a few of my thoughts, and I'm sorry this is so long, but like I said, ROLclub has been getting good commentary in other forums from sensible members, and I just think it's a shame to see valid info cluttered with irrelevant posts in it so it becomes harder to digest the actual facts.

    May we all be blessed and may Bryan come through for us all in one form or another.

    UCDIB
    This is a sensible post, in clear language, with a few valid suggestions and ideas. Thanks you. It is very laborious to read this forum at times.

    Best Regards to the Hopeful,
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    UCDIB--very good post. Good suggestions. Hope it will be considered.

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    If your interested contact me I have some online companies that I'm dealing with at this time. I'm in profit with some and have done DD with all of them that I have sent you.

    Please email me at: addy/link removed if you would like to see my list.

    I have my own program which invests into of line programs but I'm no longer taking people that I do not know or feel I may not beable to trust. Main reason, I'm not going to go throught the same issues Bryan is currently experencing.

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    I Hope GOD stay's by our sides in everthing we do.

    Good luck to you all

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    awsomely expressed ! Thankyou friend.
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    Thanks Million$Smile, Solidroc, Jbux for your kind comments on my suggestions. I was beginning to think that logic was an out of date thing here, either that or my idea of it and others were totally at opposite ends of the spectrum.

    I too hope that the questions and answers idea may be considered. Now for sure it's inevitable there's going to be a few crazy questions put in there, and of course obvious ones that Bryan can't guarantee or answer, but there's a lot that could be to cut out so much of this speculation, and malicious commentary going on in places.

    Admin/Marek, would you please consider approaching Bryan about this? I know there's hundreds if not thousands of us that would appreciate some basic answers, and are sensible enough to know that some questions Bryan may have to respond "no comment for future protection" or similar. If one's concerned about Bryan's time, then poll the proposed questions and pick the top 10 or so for order of importance to the members.

    Please Marek, consider this for everyone's benefit, and in turn can you emphasize how Bryan's credibility with a lot more of the membership would soar again. No one can blame anyone right now for having their doubts. I remember well the names of those in the PIPs forums last year that were hard fast BM/PIPs will live forever supporters, and yet now you read posts from those same people and their attitudes, whilst not in all cases totally turned are full of doubt at minimum.

    Thanks again for those I felt I had a valid post and thanks in advance Admin for hopefully giving serious thought and consideration to a questions and answer thread.

    Be blessed one and all,

    UCDIB

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    Great post Million$Smile, agree, and enjoyed reading a sensible request we all want to know.

    Good luck to all, Mike

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