Thread: The Marsdens (PIPs) Trial!

Thank you for the updates. Please tell me how I can send some support to "The Bat"

Adm, thanks for the email and reports in this thread! I haven't been following the Pips case since December 2006...because I personally regard it as useless discussions, as far as I can judge it after a long waiting period, now we for the first time get some concrete facts. And that is what I find very interesting. Two real trials starting; One starting in Nov 2007 and One starting in May2008! So let's wait and see how this case unfolds itself!

Hmmm....PicPay was not a bank. It was merely where we requested payment based on
funds transferred from PIPS; a way to separate the funds being re-invested from those
being requested as payout. PicPay then transferred the funds to the bank for withdrawal
via bank wire or check or to other payment methods such as SpeedyWallet, etc.

This is the same type of charges brought against e-Gold and INTGold here in the US.
Both e-Gold and INTGold have proved that they are not banks and have complied with
all licensing requirements. While e-Gold has had little repercussions from it, INTGold has
had great difficulty recovering their business.

Unfortunately, even if you are innocent of all charges, the likelihood of surviving an
investigation is almost nil as most customers/investors lose confidence and move on
to other programs. We can only wait and see what happens.

thanks, for your news, admin, i work on mac, and i regularly disconnected when i login and read un text, and want to change the page ex. 1 to 2, i am disconnected, i work with OPERA.

thanks

I am so grateful to all of you that have stayed with this situation and kept us informed.
The disappointment will never end.
blessings to all, attagirl

Originally Posted by period8

Hmmm... It was strange when I posted this news, I'm very sure I;m the 1st one who got it and I've checked the ROL club forum and no one got this news.

That is why I posted it, then when I logged in back I saw Jaydin posted this " RM$8.34 assets frozen. What that worth about $2.4mil USD. Nice chuck of change."

And when today when I logged in...Wow what a suprised! I saw 1 post superceed my post, which is the Admin.

How Come??? I am so puzzle and curious

hello the reason for that is, i had these posts made by us soft deleted, to discuss the situation with Yogibrood and Thebat$ before we post a new update... Once we agree, we post. This discussion is due to Gff stealing our updates, or starting a Ddos attack against us to keep our servers down, and have their site up with massmailing to our members.We have started to secure us against such with each pips update we post now. But we figured that to many members had already started to ask questions.. So we undeleted the soft deleted posts, and there they were, back again in the order they were posted.

regards
admin

I'd like to respectfully point out that the companies you mentioned here were not in any way attached to a ponzi pyramid scam as Picpay was and that is a huge difference.

Originally Posted by maxie

This is the same type of charges brought against e-Gold and INTGold here in the US.
Both e-Gold and INTGold have proved that they are not banks and have complied with
all licensing requirements. While e-Gold has had little repercussions from it, INTGold has
had great difficulty recovering their business.

Originally Posted by gloryanna

Thank you for the updates. Please tell me how I can send some support to "The Bat"

Firstly, he will certainly appreciate, YOUR solemn support and understanding, what he is going through on behalf of gathering real time facts for all concerned, up front and close.... secondly, also understand that his efforts depends on moral to monetary support to cover expenses in funding his time, his commitment, his sacrifice and having to be away from his home....

No amount of $$$ value can determine or put a price tag on that worth....but any amount in donation contributed, is welcome as a genuine support to ALL our efforts as cooperation for showing true support. -


Click HERE and in Post# 1, you will have options on donating to this cause, physically & literally following up & finding the facts on the Marsdens Trial.

The Admins.

Originally Posted by richterpk

Hello All,
I haven't been here (Rolclub) for about 1 yera because of personal things. So I am not really up-to-date with things. I saw that the trial is going on, but how is it with the faith in BM? Do we still support him or have our eyes opened and do we now see we will never get our money back? I am open for any good discussion or thougt and facts.
Philip Richter

Welcome back PR! I think the context of "faith" is a personal point only an individual can honestly answer, its like religion, a personal belief or faith if you will, empowered on oneself.

As to the support side, that too is best left to every individual to answer for oneself as no one needs to wise-up the other...it's pointless, but a true supporter should know and do, is what he/she believes in and to go all the way and 100% in proving it...even like staging with placards or banners outside the courthouse or attending the trial (whats a plane ticket for a Dutch or for most Western traveler?...peanuts 2B honest) inside showing visible support and /or even chipping in to bail them out...

Now, where are all you hard core Marsden supporters we thought are still out there?

As for the "when is my money coming back" feeling...you were away for some time but you did NOT fully miss the "boat of debate" here... it's still on btw... there will be members waiting to hear your side of the coin...be our guest, should be interesting to hear your perspectives...we almost ran out of breath on any more options...but all ears are yours for listening..., Philip.

Hi friends,

I have resorted to use a cybercafe to stay in touch with Rolclub. Due to an unknown hitch in my laptop as well as my desktop, I am unable to connect to Rolclub! I can access other sites without any trouble whatsoever. My desktop sometimes allows me brief access. So you can see my name reported but in actual fact I was locked out.

Anyway, regarding my family, they are all I have that is important. I try my best to see that my mum and sibs are taken care of and they of me. So far the most I've been gone is 3 days. As you know once I knew there was no trial (Sept 10), I went home straight, one to save funds for the next trip and two to quickly go home to my family. Our daily routine is a juggling act of timetables. I drive them to college on certain days, they drive other siblings to work, I take mother for daily marketing, they drive me to my work etc. So if I am gone for a week or two, I am sure there will be days that things cannot go where they're suposed to. I am still trying to make up for the classes missed (I teach a little, one on one) from the last trip.

Please don't misconstru that I am whinning about my situation. I am willing to get out there and get the info. If there is news, good or bad, we all must know. I am sure Admin and Yogi will try their best to send me, as long as the donations can cover it. As you may be aware that donation cannot quite cover an extended stay, it has been sufficient so far as I have been tightfisted. Instead of having a meal in the hotel, I chose to have it at a coffee shop or fastfood. I also purchase instant cup noodles, in case hunger strikes. Ordering from the hotel menu can be expensive!

Instead of one trial, there are two now. This will mean more trips. I hope that the trials will be tried together, (Yogi said its wishful thinking on my part ) its crazy isn't it? If you take away the date, the news report is almost exactly like the 30 Aug 2006 one. The difference it that :-

1. They were out on bail before 30 Aug!
2. Sharon is a former teacher
3. BM was a former project manager for KLCC and KLIA
4. 18 locals depositors and scammed of RM650,000
5. There willl be 15 witnesses
6. Trial is in May

Well, I guess till the trial, its back to the usual wait.

Cheers.

theBat$

Originally Posted by YogiBrood

Gradually, more of you will come to realize, just what a carousel for YOU, we and all that were keeping an eye on this saga... were led onto.

Did we ever envisage this new twist as far as 9 months back??? This "Double Jeopardy" for the Marsdens as it now appears...is somewhat a poised approach...NOT by the number of those who pressed charges, but by the State and Legal to Financial Authorities in Malaysia that is doing, whatever it takes and needs to prove, that this is one long haul and lesson they want to display to the community in their country and it is needless to reiterate, for the international communities silently laying back but also eyeing events from a distance.

I leave the rest of the scenario to your calculations and improved assumptions but as far as assigning Batty to follow up unabated...we the Admins have no reason or doubt to hesitate what is necessary to keep track on this for as long as we can sustain...thanks to your support and donations we "now URGE" you to show and consider seriously...

Our earlier expectations to be truly confident, was hoping that donations contributed would set it within a month or two at the latest to reach a minimum required sum of almost USD$4-$5K, but that target was sadly not attained till today...

We are barely skimming close to $1800 all put together before the fees, charges and transfer costs etc are deducted...

Next, with this longer drawn out follow ups and covering on both fronts, separate court locations ...this will be stretching the target...but the target is nowhere there in the first place hence, reconsider and seriously figure the sums with todays rising costs...plus the dip of the US Dollar's value pitted against the currency that is needed to sustain the fact-finding mission.

Above all that again...we are now faced with yet another personal commitment....as I personally know of the Bat's family situation and struggle to keep the family, siblings and VERY tight budget he too has to sacrificed to meet his deceased father's wishes and his mother's concerns and sole dependence on him for almost EVERYTHING, making him very much needed around the home, his absence for us, for YOU and for the combine need to know as long as it takes, is an expensive drain both on his family and stress on himself...are we covering enough for that hurdle as burden he is subjected to on behalf of us all?

I have now to extend that long week of hotel stay for him, in November.... it's NOT a 3 or 2 star hotel nor a 5 star hotel either, I found a 4-star that is decent and comfortable and he NEEDS THAT for the least he is going through.

All I can say for the moment, we will urge you to consider your donating part, whatever sum you can least afford, is always welcome...

We need at least easily a minimum of 4 thousand dollars for surety.... please do what you can, thank you.

For those that said and posted that they have DONE so and in fact DID NOT.... please, don't DO THAT after this... you made extra work for me and also by those posting on requesting assistance to donate....blah, blah etc...that too cost extra time and stress waiting till today after the PayPal systematic requests were sent out... is that helpful to our cause???

We will do whatever to secure our ROLClub site from others,first & foremost, security comes first, to protect us, our interests and that includes yours too!!! After that, whatever it takes for not compromising your interests to jerks like the GFF Forum and their hypocritical supporters that post here and spent more supporting that GFF Admin at his forum (we all know which ones of you are actively involved), should not be given what they do not deserve while hiding behind YOUR genuine need to be updated ... We leave your better judgement in assessing and understanding our decisions when taken and handed out...to serve us all in the long run.

The Admins.