Thread: Reply from Irish Billy at BTI to all the accusations

Well I'm pretty flattered.


I actually went out and had a good work out, had a visit with my father and had a steak dinner.

Don't you guys ever get out? My best friend PM'ed me laughing that everyone on this forum thinks that I'm billy.

Now, I'm flattered. But why would Irish billy spend all his time on this forum full of such hateful people instead of take care of the organization he has.

Anyhow, have fun with your conspieracy theories and such, as I can tell with everyone all of a suddenly thinking I'm Billy that some of the zeolots here have everything way out of control.

Travis

I can assure you guys that edge is definately not billy

Originally Posted by grubstake

Billy,

I'm just asking because your post is trying to please all sides. I'm just confused on one part...

You said Bryan feels that Warren and Gary have screwed him over. But then you go on to say that Warren was just doing in the best interest of members, it was his honest feelings that he felt members had been wronged.

so which is it? I highly doubt Bryan is going to make up false accusations and toss them around lightly. But you still insist on what Warren says and feels and Gary as well. :roll:

just confused on those mixed signals.


james

The highlight in the post above is mine. To draw attention to what I am addressing.
Billy never said that. Here is the quote

I don't believe them to be bad people and Warren I believe came to his conclusions and was so disappointed and upset that he let all that come out and really feels that members have been wronged and I bleieve he is straight forward and honest and speaking what he believes from his heart..

Clearly Billy is telling us what Warren belives., not what Billy believes.
Whew, never thought the English language was so easy to misunderstand :roll:

Billy's post is nothing more than an attempt to try to retain members.

He did "try" to take a little of his usual negative slant off of Bryan, yet was still negative, still staying he'd be in favor of "new management", it is clear as he has all along, he defends himself, Warren, Gary....

I'm not sure it is important enough to go back and check them all, but, Billy has said all along of his "regular" contacts with "ALL" involved, except for Bryan.

His post reminds me of someone trying to smooth things over, yet, as someone said, he didn't even address the concerns of "his/Bryan's" own members, and their money.

When PIPS comes back up and he has accumulated all this money from the ROL, and meanwhile he has ousted many of those that put the money there,
I'm sure "NOT" that he would split all the money, and hunt each person down to return their funds, with interest.

As a matter of fact from my understanding he has never said or accounted for the funds he received, or even told what would be done with the "growth"... it seems clear with how things are being handled currently, don't expect anything unless you are willing to take him to court.

As far as his answers to all the rumour and speculation, his proclaiming total innocence on everything means nothing. imo As most people know how to read and have read his messages. He can't now say he didn't say this or that, just that somehow we didn't read what we know we read.

The post was mostly rehash of what he has said before, how "right" he is..... and, I don't know if he has talked to Bryan or not, but...what he says that Bryan says, doesn't sound like Bryan, it sounds like Billy to me.

VP

Something else that was quite interesting was Billy's promise to the BTI members that, after that phone call with Bryan, he would send out another update going into further detail about the conversation. Funny thing, he never did. Now, don't you think that if he really cared about the members, he knows that above all else, BTI members would want info that he got straight from BRYAN!!! Not from Gary, Warren, Rex, or anyone else. But, he NEVER did give us the follow-up. I find that very interesting and very suspicious. Not to mention, his updates are so disjointed and half his sentences are run-ons that don't even make sense....and they have been getting increasingly worse over time.

Agreed, Soaringeagle,
But, somehow I'm glad we were spared the info.

IMO, the negative updates, did nothing to serve the members or PIPS. The forum even before usa went to bed for good, it was hard to say anything good about Bryan or PIPS, and my understanding from everything I've read and heard is that it has gotten worse under the new name. People afraid to speak up, because they will be punished for "not moving on" and forgetting about PIPS.

The message "now let's make nice" doesn't mean anything, when people don't trust the messenger.

VP

Did it ever occur to anyone that since billy is charging for information that he needs to come up with stuff to say??
I think he is making it all up to make the members think he has some inside information.
I dont think he has anything.. he rambles too much, doesnt really say anything, and then passes it off as he talked to Bryan..
I think it is all BULL.. just bull to keep members thinking he has an inside edge to the pips headquarters..So they feel they are getting their moneys worth in his worthless forum.
Bull bull bull.
NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE WHAT IS UP!!!!

Originally Posted by The Mighty One

Originally Posted by grubstake

Billy,

I'm just asking because your post is trying to please all sides. I'm just confused on one part...

You said Bryan feels that Warren and Gary have screwed him over. But then you go on to say that Warren was just doing in the best interest of members, it was his honest feelings that he felt members had been wronged.

so which is it? I highly doubt Bryan is going to make up false accusations and toss them around lightly. But you still insist on what Warren says and feels and Gary as well. :roll:

just confused on those mixed signals.


james

The highlight in the post above is mine. To draw attention to what I am addressing.
Billy never said that. Here is the quote

I don't believe them to be bad people and Warren I believe came to his conclusions and was so disappointed and upset that he let all that come out and really feels that members have been wronged and I bleieve he is straight forward and honest and speaking what he believes from his heart..

Clearly Billy is telling us what Warren belives., not what Billy believes.
Whew, never thought the English language was so easy to misunderstand :roll:

Hey there, really just wanted to CORRECT YOU for trying to correct me. You just said "Clearly Billy is telling us what Warren believes, not what Billy believes." And then you go on to BOLD directly from Billy's post "and Warren I believe came to his conclusions". Notice Billy saying "I believe".

"Whew, never thought the English language was so easy to misunderstand"

- whew, me either :P :roll:


james

Originally Posted by truepipster

I dont think he has anything.. he rambles too much, doesnt really say anything, and then passes it off as he talked to Bryan..
I think it is all BULL.. just bull to keep members thinking he has an inside edge to the pips headquarters..So they feel they are getting their moneys worth in his worthless forum.

LOL, truepipster! Yes, this has definitely crossed my mind...especially since his updates don't make much sense anymore and are full of contradictions. That is exactly why I don't think he followed up, as promised, on more info on the phone call from Bryan...

Originally Posted by EdgeCrusher

The lifetime membership was for PIPS usa.


I'm going to keep repeating this until those people who are hell bent on cursing BTI get the idea:

Picpay is down. All of the money put into pips usa for the memberships was put into picpay. Billy put the money into picpay and pips so that the account would grow and would be able to fund the organization without any more out of pocket expenses. Now that picpay is down, he has to go back to a more traditional dues system of 10 dollars a month to pay for everything. I know that 10 dollars a month is lots and lots of money, and that you would rathar eat than to spend that 10 dollars, but that is how it works.

Cliff notes: Lifetime membership put into picpay, picpay is down, all that money is frozen/gone.

Please if you dont want to pay dues then go away, but dont defame Billy because you arent getting a free ride. Life isnt fair. Nor is picpay being down.

Have a nice day everyone

Travis

Boy-- I hope Bryan does not follow this and change the name from PIPS to DIPS and cancel everone's account and tell them to GO AWAY !!