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    OICU812...

    I understand the current situation tells you a lot... and what happens with most programs may be reasonable reason to suspect SI from being the same. BUT...

    Unless that's just your way of communicating, I don't understand your negativity towards pinetree after all input he provided on your questions. I only saw replies of yours changing to another subject or repeating your baseline again (SI is gone)... never a sign you actually even read his arguments , not so say you understood but rejected them on reasonable grounds. Think that's a pretty poor way of 'discussing'... and pinetree deserves more respect for his efforts trying to understand what's happening (and sharing it with those who want) than yet another empty 'it's gone'.

    Therefore... a request: you made your point clear... we know what you try to tell us... so I wonder why you keep on repeating your mantra. You won't change our view, you know (like it won't happen the other way around), unless there's anything new to say (like whatever's question)...
    Can't you give yourself, and pinetree (and us), a break?
    I think it would save both time & energy for purposes you do believe in.

    Just an idea,

    Hasse

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    hear hear

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    hear hear to
    Great Luck to All


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    Default Thank You, Pinetree

    I appreciate what you are providing to us greatly. I would kindly suggest that for those who believe that its over for SI to not post as it does them no good and may even shorten their life, if medical data on that type of behaviour is acknowledged.
    I can accept that SI might be over but that doesn't compel me to assault someone who graciously shares information with us that provides indicators that SI may well rise from the proverbial ashes. So again I sincerely request that we stop 'shooting' the messenger.

    nventr

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    Default I just receieved the below

    I just receieved the below in my e-mail inbox.

    quote:
    <Dxxxxxxx4@...> wrote:
    >
    > First, let me apologize for the size of this post. It is a
    > combination of posts with some ad libbing.... also let me give some
    > thanks for whomever posts on xxxxxs board. I know, I know, I dont
    > care enough to spend the time trying to figure out computer shit to
    > get on pingmans board. Third... if I use highly technical real
    > estate language... dont read it then.
    >
    > xxxxxs corner has been nothing less that what the forums should be,
    > which is information and opinions based on the information. nothing
    > more, nothing less. What you gain from it is what you gain. There are
    > those of us, who, share information because:
    >
    > We know someone or something
    > we care about others who dont know
    > some forum members have grown on us

    >
    > We are getting to a point where it doesnt matter the information that
    > is provided, it is a high that brings back the belief temporarily.
    > There is no amount of information that can be provided to make some
    > believe. It seems that a couple of days of no new information usually
    > provides a breeding ground of uncertainty and doubt. its all good, so
    > let it. lets review the information...
    >
    > when i receive information, I give it a 90% chance of credibility. The
    > people I deal with:
    > I have know for years
    > I have met them, seen their elements and their business
    > I have done business with in the past

    >
    > When someone posts information over and above what i have received, I
    > compare it to the information I have been provided and if the story
    > matches they are given credibility. When the story matches through a
    > third credibly source and a fourth then I would give it 95-100% chance
    > of being accurate. I am sure that their "sources" also have the same
    > type of relationships as I have with my contacts.
    >
    > SI VIP mentioned something that I am VERY familiar with. Here is his
    > words: "If ANY of you know what a "non discloser agreement" is then
    > you will understand why I have to "dance" around a bit with my post."
    > I wonder how many of you would jeopardize your future relationship
    > with SI so that you can post information for others who might not know
    > what you know. Well, I know of two and dealing with these types of
    > agreements doesnt indicate a sign of someone running.
    >
    > this is the link to the s corner that set me off tonight:
    >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx x
    >
    > You will notice that mxxxxxxx7 had a big post in there that is based
    > on the cardinal sin of investing which is EMOTION and quickly a pig
    > pile followed by the usual suspects. He has raised questions and you
    > will have to go there and read his "questions of proof" the he brings
    > to the forefront. The people I deal with would never provide anything
    > to anyone outside of our group. some of us are bound by a non
    > disclosure agreement and the screen shot is a complete stupid stupid
    > stupid requests. SURE, I will post my screen shot so that HACKERS can
    > target my account. SURE, I will provide information so that there
    > are those thumb sucking fetal postion whiners can doubt everything
    > that is being provided.
    >
    > look at some FACTS:
    > There are only a few regarding the ports, and the Cpanel and the rest
    > will be SPECULATION, INFORMATION, INSTINCT, HYPOTHESIS, ETC. When it
    > comes to trying for someone for a crime, outside of confession or
    > video tape, it is the same scenario. Not one of us will know if sosa
    > really posted on the board. Not one of us has seen sosa typing and
    > submitting it to the board but the information matches. Not one of us
    > has seen the bank wire to the VIP's. duh, get a clue, YOU NEVER
    > WILL. YOU WILL NOT SEE SCREEN SHOTS NOR BANK STATEMENTS OR EVEN POSTS
    > FROM THESE PEOPLE. so take what you can get which is information from
    > people who know and deal with the VIPS. If you do not want to believe,
    > then don't.
    >
    > It has been posted that some company or group was dealing with "an
    > attorney out of PA" that has placed a freeze on their egold account.
    > why give the attornies a roadmap or hackers a heads up. We have
    > already been warned about phishing, fake egold emails, etc.
    >
    > We have seen the abuse posted about sosa and sam on the old forum, so
    > why would they try. to be honest, most of the small investors dont
    > matter. I am pretty sure that sosa did try to provide information
    > because it MATCHES what i have been told. sosa signed off and thats
    > where his posts went wacky.
    >
    > The attorney thing is a joke, nothing more than modern day harrassment
    > by the normal ambulance chasers looking for a free nugget. The joke
    > will be on those who fell for the bait. 33% and you signed a power of
    > attorney? I chuckle when i think about how many even know what a power
    > of attorney is and why would you sign one for someone you know nothing
    > of.
    I dont see any of these jokers applying their vile virtupritous
    > language against VIPinv, or the others who split after a week or a
    > month. there is a part of me that suspects that they WORK or get
    > referrals from that website. Do know this, there is a telemarketing
    > firm out there trying to drive you and your soon to be riches to
    > "their clients" websites.
    >
    > There are a few that I deal with direct and share or provide
    > information. Honestly speaking, when it comes to giving information
    > to the boards, I wonder why bother. Some have gone out of their way to
    > help but my patience has run thin with the excessive pms, emails and
    > abuse on the board that pretty much ask the same boring question....
    > "when will I get paid". Maybe thats why they dont post or reply to
    > emails.
    >
    > The bottom line is that you have basically two choices. wait or give
    > up
    . I personally check the boards once or twice a day just to find the
    > status of the website, because i still believe that you will not be
    > paid until the site is up, you sign in and have your reinvestment
    > option on the table. it sure seems that they would be paying out a
    > lot less money and both them and you paying fees that you dont need to.
    >
    > We might never know what descisions were made by sam and rafael and
    > the reasons behind it. I am very sure that it is in everyones best
    > interest that it happened the way it did
    . When its all said and done,
    > I am sure all will be forgiven and the fake ass praise will come
    > back. May I mention again, those of you who are no longer part of it
    > when it comes back....... syonara, bienevedos, later, hasta la pasta,
    > au revior. We will all have a toast to your misery and abscence in
    > Belize.
    >unquote:

    pinetree
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