Thread: "conspiracy"against BI is being uncovered.

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Once again you are on the cutting edge, xxxxn! I received a message yesterday from a gentleman who gave me the very information you just shared, along with a direct link to the World Law Direct website:

http://www.worldlawdirect.com/articl...ment_scam.html

I have taken the liberty of copying and pasting the notice verbatim on that website, shown here below in italics:

Solidinvestment.com investment scam
By WORLD Law Direct, updated: [July 28th, 2006]

Fraud warning regarding the firm "Solid Investment" (SI) and its site solidinvestment.com


July 27, 2006:

$100,000 Bounty

A 100,000 dollar bounty has been issued. Contact us for more information. Earn 100,000 dollars for substantial information resulting in the further location and arrest of the operators of SolidInvestment.com.

The bounty covers and includes the person(s) that called themselves Rafael Sosa and/or Sam Collins.

(Next update by July 30, 2006)


July 18, 2006:

Our lawyers and outside counsel are filing in US Federal Court, and on a limited basis, with at least two courts abroad. If you wish to potentially have your account included in, or added to, our filing, please email us with your name and original amounts invested. Also kindly note for us records of any communication with any SolidInvestment "staff".

Input to our staff has been tremendous. Numerous tips, phone records, recordings, etc. already have helped to locate certain offenders and certain assets. We will keep you apprised.


Comments from our site users regarding solidinvestment.com

"...as of mid-day Saturday July 8th, 2006,
the Solidinvestment site has been down, as well as the forum:
http://www.ecurrencyforum.com, which we now believe to have
been controlled by them (SI). It is imperative therefore, that we proceed with swiftness, to keep SI from pulling off one the BIGGEST HYIP scams in Internet history!"

"I also wanted to say that http://www.solidinvestment.com/ is a scam!! They used to be Jungle Ventures many months ago.. they claim they are not Jungle Ventures but had a certificate on their site that had Jungle Ventures as the name of the registered company..."


Operators of Solid Investment and the site solidinvestment.com have collected funds, failed to make promised payments, and have now disappeared.

Solidinvestment was supposedly a Belize-based company. An ongoing review of Internet and other records by WORLDLawDirect has shown the operators to be in several locations.

Lawyers are filing a federal lawsuit including charges for violation of the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organizations Act, 18 U.S.C. § 1962(c). Plaintiffs seek triple damages as allowed by law. More details as court papers are released.

Criminal charges are being filed as of today, July 12, 2006. If you have further comments or information, or need help, email us here at WORLDLawDirect.


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Case complaints may also be sent to investigators at:

FBI New York
Internet Fraud Division
26 Federal Plaza, 23rd. Floor
New York, New York 10278-0004

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I would like to pose a few questions:

1. The people at the World Law website seem to have a question of dual identity when it comes to Mr. Sosa and Mr. Collins. Isn't it a demonstrable fact that they are - indeed - two seperate individuals?

2. Why the vague reference to having seized "certain assets" without specifically naming the amounts and locations? Wouldn't the disclosure of this type of information lend credence to World Law Direct's claim to be 'on the case', as it were?

3. Once of the reported emails contained a reference to the confusion between the two 'Jungle Ventures' companies. Unfortunately, the 'author' of this email failed to perform some simple DD - DUE DILIGENCE - about the two entities. SI did, in fact, have a whole PAGE devoted to explaining the difference between the two. I know, because I myself SAW and RESEARCHED this aspect of SI before I invested. So, why would WLD allow an incomplete, or fraudulent, statement to be posted on the website?

4. Did SI collect funds? YES.
Did SI fail to make payments as promised? Unknown.
Did SI disappear? Unknown.
Wouldn't the fact of this forum's very existence (and others just
like this one) cause some question to arise about the method or
reason for the 'disappearence' of the SI website?

5. The WLD states that they have found thatSI was operating from several locations. Okay, but why did they not DENY that SI was based out of Belize? They only infer that SI was not actually based there.

6. Is multi-site operation criminal activity? Then every single multinational corporation is guilty of criminal activity, including companies like GM, Microsoft (maybe not a good example ), British Petroleum and McDonalds, to name a very few. Are they, too, being deceitful, mischievous, or operating outside the law?!

7. Finally, which criminal charges are being filed? By whom? Against who/what? Which jurisdiction is being entered? RICO (the racketeering legislation referenced in the WLD website) is strictly an American law and has absolutely no validation in any other court system other than this country. Since SI is based out of Belize, how then can WLD claim to be using an American law in a foreign jurisdiction?

Sorry for such a long and exhausting post, but I just had to get these questions out of my head. Otherwise I might explode!

As always, I'm searching for the truth here and not trying to alienate or anger anyone. That is not my intention. Rather, a spirited and logical discussion of the FACTS will bring out what I believe we all desire - THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
Thanks, all!
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Another supporting opinion on conspiracy theory

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gxxxx6 wrote:
Great info xxxxn and xxxxxs. I did some searching around the FBI sites and found nothing whatsoever on San Colins, Rafael Sosa, Russian fugitives, solidinvestment.com or Jungle Ventures Ltd. If World Law Direct and the FBI are in collaboration in this investigation, wouldn't it make sense if something is posted in the FBI site to alert investors of this scam, since WLD puts SI as "...one the BIGGEST HYIP scams in Internet history!!!".

Seems like WLD has done a great job in meeting their objective of dillussioning people and literally pulling by their noses.


One of the tactics lawyers use is that they have to "create a bunch of clients" in order to make a case.

Just for a moment, imagine thousands of unsatisfied investors file complain to the FBI will certainly "create" an investigation.
If the lawyers can make it happens, then they will have a case AND a FBI investigation.

Here's the scenario :
How to find thousands of investors? Only 3 people in their emplyment using different aliases - can become 300 usernames (this can explain why weeks before the site went down, there were LOTS of newbies came to the EC Forum to post negatives everyday at all hours. This was BEFORE the forum went offline.
Could it be these same people also dig out all old trash linking SI to Russian mafias and bogus companies then go to all the public forums and scream scam, post them all over the net, that's why all of a sudden these information resurfaced?
It may not have happened exactly like this but it certainly could be a possibility and very easy to do.....
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pinetree

Pls. read the post below. It cleared the misunderstanding about the legitimacy of the Solidinvestment as well as on Jungle Ventures Ltd.

xxxxxn wrote:
xxxxxGirl:

Thanks for the post.

Jungle Ventures Ltd. is an off the shelf corporation purchased from a registered agent in Belize. In order for Solid Investment to sell financial services directly to the citizens of Belize, it should be licensed in Belize for this activity.

However, since Solid Investment intended to sell its services only via the Internet, and not directly to the people of Belize, it did not have to be licensed for financial services by the Belize government. If a Belize citizen wants to invest in Solid Investment, they must do so by the Internet, since Jungle Ventures Ltd. (Solid Investment) cannot provide financial services directly to anyone who is a citizen of Belize. That is why Jungle Ventures Ltd. is listed as not being licensed to provide financial services within the jurisdiction of Belize.

Solid Investment is Jungle Ventures Ltd.'s Doing Business As (DBA) Internet name, and, therefore, is not licensed as a corporation in Belize. It is the same principle as the Tandy Corporation Doing Business As Radio Shack. Radio Shack is its doing business as name, not its corporate name. Tandy is a listed corporation in Texas, but Radio Shack is not, because this is Tandy's fictitious DBA name. The same principle applies to Jungle Ventures Ltd. and Solid Investment. That is why Solid Investment is listed as not being incorporated in the country of Belize, because this is its fictitious DBA name, not its corporate name.

Therefore, the two items, listed in your post, are nothing to be concerned about, but thanks for keeping a sharp eye out for things like this. The more information, the better, in my opinion.

However, I do take exception to one thing Gian C. Gandai stated in his letter. He said, "...It is notified for general information that SOLID INVESTMENT is not registered in Belize as a company. The representations made on their websites www.solidinvestment.com to that effect are incorrect and misleading..."

During my due diligence on Solid Investment, I made a thorough check of its Internet site. Nowhere, on their site, did they say that Solid Investment was registered anywhere in the Country of Belize. What they did say was that their "COMPANY" was registered in Belize, a big difference. They used the word "company," not the words "Solid Investment," and their "company" is Jungle Ventures Ltd., which is registered in Belize.

Therefore, Mr. Gandai's statement is misleading, not solid Investment's statement on their Internet site. Apparently, he misinterpreted the word "company" to mean "Solid Investment," failing to realize that their company was really Jungle Ventures Ltd., not Solid Investment.


Thank you so much for clarifying that for me, so much to take in with such a little mind...lol So many conflicting stories, guess all we can do is wait and pray! Again Thank You!!!
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But

Where is my hard earned money ?

we can write long story everyday

Best regards

....and the bottomline at the end of the day reads: some win, won & whatever while ...MOST LOST!!!






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Originally Posted by YogiBrood

....and the bottomline at the end of the day reads: some win, won & whatever while ...MOST LOST!!!






Next....

Can I be next

I wait. To pass the time go "Bird Watching in Lion Country"
And I earn good mo0ney bevry day doing just that. So can you
Check out my signature and if you hav equestions please go
to my FAQ page
flmnco

Originally Posted by flmnco

I wait. To pass the time go "Bird Watching in Lion Country"
And I earn good mo0ney bevry day doing just that. So can you
Check out my signature and if you hav equestions please go
to my FAQ page
flmnco

"SAY WHAT"

Please,

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I lost all my money in autosurfs and hyip.

Thanks.