This is just a big sales scam being played by freedinar.com
Yeah every sale over 1 mill is a case by case but i bet you they all get accepted.
Load of bs. It could be considered fraudulent.
Dont get hyped up over nothing like all the absolutly moronic cretins over at investorsiraq.com.
I got banned over there because i just wasnt playing along with the 1-1 revaluation sales tactics. All the scammers over there ganged up on me because i was making their investment not look like a "get rich quick" scam anymore. Not in the best interests of sales.
That forum is full of *****s theres no point in even going there as theres noone you can actually have a reasonable debate with. Without it going to petty namecalling and hounding when the argument doesnt go their way.
Children...
That email is a load of bollocks and if you rush to buy more dinars from that alone your an absolute moron yourself.
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18-06-2006, 02:34 PM #11
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Originally Posted by Loops
Welcome loops, are you a dinar holder yourself? Do you not believe a reval will happen?
Personally I had a bad time with freedinar and wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. Take anything they say with a pinch of salt. As for IIF, this is one of the most negative forums out there for dinar speculation, you should look at some of the others, lol.Zubaidi:Monetary value of the Iraqi dinar must revert to the previous level, or at least to acceptable levels as it is in the Iraqi neighboring states.
Shabibi:The bank wants as a means to affect the economic and monetary policy by making the dinar a valuable and powerful.
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18-06-2006, 04:35 PM #13
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Yeah adster i hold 2 mill myself.
Id rather have a realistic negative forum than a positive complete bullsht forum.
Just a bunch of dreaming *****s there who bash everyone who cares to discredit their dreams.
Reitmans such a moron he cant argue anything so he just bashes and plots to get people banned who own him in a legitimate debate.
The mods there are also corrupt and bias. Its only a positive forum because all the negative people get banned. lol what a waste of time that place is.
This scam email from freedinar is a low blow to dealers everwhere. Then again ive seen countless scams like all the rumour mongers over at IIF saying reval in 2 days reval in 2 days get your dinar now. Its just a sales scam.
I have strong suspicions that that board is entirely devoted to scamming newbies with overly positive statements and deluding them from the truth of the investment.
They insist that there will be a revaluation of 1-1 etc even though several people\official factual data and even a warka bank CEO have said that if such were to happen it would bankrupt the iraqi economy.
They just dont listen because they are all dealers in disguise. Dont listen to anyone on any forum ever!
Read the factual posts and make your own mind.
Dont listen to any moron called rietman or panhead or joel57 etc they cant see their own way through a simple debate let alone actually make a credible analysis of an investment.
I bet you they pop up here now too to start their bs "hes only 20" etc. Thats just pathetic.
Cant disprove anything i say so they say oh dont listen to him hes only 20 he clearly doesnt know anything hes only saying it to make our investment look bad. Even though every point ive stated over there still stands they distract the newbies from them with their bullsheet.
I dont think it is a bad investment im just waging war on the dealers who use underhanded techniques e.g. FORUM SPAMMING WITH ALTERNATE PROFILES. for their own means.
I reckon we could fairly easily see 0.10-1 in about 15 years or so. Providing the oil revenues increase a bit and security is controlled a bit better.
Unfortunaltey thats not good enough for the 1-1 rumour mongers who play on peoples greed for a get rich quick scam that will never ever happen.
If you want to see an example of a corrupt and bias moderator then click this link.
http://www.investorsiraq.com/rumors-...on-return.html
Scroll down about half way until you read this:
[I]Originally Posted by AirForceCop
Since we are adding:
4. Put dinar_skeptic on ignore! DONE...
Unfortunately, I can't
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Yea, he should have said "Only positive posts" in this poll, maybe then you would get it, (probably not though)
You're right on!
Some people are really so worried that the dinar won't appreciate if too many find this opportunity.
They won't admit, but it's why they are here.
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Does that sound like a fair and even handed moderator to you?
NOOOO.
absolute bull. Really...
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18-06-2006, 04:45 PM #14
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I agree with the forum, no fan of it at all, I prefer www.aboutdinar.com. Have a look.
As for reval, I've studied, researched, read and feel in my opinion that a reval is round the corner, especially if we get the investment law passed. Iraq can't go on 15 years like they are. They need foreign money asap, Bush, the finance minister and even Maliki have said as much. As for the CBI guy saying it would bankrupt them, yes, well he would say that.
We're all entitled to our opinion, mine is made up from research, and I feel honestly a peg of .40 will be achieved very soon. I'm not a dealer, people have to make up their own minds. I don't listen to rumours or believe them, in fact I find them funny, lol.
We'll see. Too many good things happening for something not to give soon. I respect your opinion and certainly don't want to start off an argument.
My two dinars worth.
Adster.Zubaidi:Monetary value of the Iraqi dinar must revert to the previous level, or at least to acceptable levels as it is in the Iraqi neighboring states.
Shabibi:The bank wants as a means to affect the economic and monetary policy by making the dinar a valuable and powerful.
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18-06-2006, 04:46 PM #15
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Sportslux sounds like a little kid there himself.
"I would if i could but i cant". ?!?!?!?!?!?
Do you see adster how he denies even the possibility of it going down?
Does that sound like a rational investor let alone a decent moderator to you?
He uses that bullsheet excuse that we think that if theres too many speculators then it wont appreciate so we try and stop people from buying?
WHAT A DUMBASS. If theres no demand then theres no appreciation!
Thats the most basic of basic laws of economics. SUPPLY AND DEMAND
Seeing as how the dinar is supposedly a convertable currency on a free market policy how is there ever going to be an appreciation if no one wants it because weve destroyed its credibility as an investment?
The reason its not appreciating is because the central bank of iraq does not have the currency reserves to support any significant revaluation.
Seriously i could go on all day about the dumbasses over at IIF. Theres only 3 members ive met on there who actually have a shred of credibility over there. Usakidd, Jerry, Icarus.
The rest just consistantly post irrelevant bullshit.
IIF is a forum for complete newbies who want to be cohersed into buying dinars. Very little serious debate there.
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18-06-2006, 04:52 PM #16
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I respect your decency adster however i must disagree with you on your .40 ambitions.
Im afraid the maths just doesnt add up with only 20 odd billion dollars in reserve.
Yes iraq needs foreign investment but to do that they need to show that they are a stable country.
That wont happen if their economy crashes due to a huge reval before theyre ready.
I was thinking yes a reval could be coming up soon but i was thinking in the region of 1200 to one or 1000 to one.
It wont be much higher than that im afraid with current reserves in place.
Also with 14 trillion dinars in circulation with a 0.40 reval wouldnt that mean that iraq has just under 7 trillion dollars in cash? Thats quite a hefty amount of money to poof out of nowhere. Wouldnt that upset the way world markets work a bit?
Iraq suddenly jump to one of the richest countries in the world just like that?
Ive never seen that happen before im afraid.
Respecfully yours,
Loops.
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18-06-2006, 04:53 PM #17
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Originally Posted by Loops
I'm wondering VERY much on this and seriously too. Don't stash ALL your money on dinasaurus eggs in only one large basket... is my outlook.
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18-06-2006, 05:31 PM #18
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Originally Posted by Loops
Well for one, noone truly knows what they have in foreign reserves......secondly, the dinar reval can be backed by oil reserves which has been mentioned. And thirdly, if it revals at .40, whoever offloads will be replaced by bigger companies and banks buying them up. So what is offloaded will be bought up in anticipation of it going higher.
Iraq is a unique situation, no economist knows or can predict what will truly happen over there. Yes this is a speculative event, no doubt about it, but it can only go 1 way IMO. If it doesn't will it go much lower?! Hardly, plus we always have e-bay to offload!
Not got the link but a CBI insider, no bs, this was an official thread/post said, and I quote, 'the dinar will rise significantly in 2006'. And with the announcement today of more subsidies and the raising of prices how long can the people go on like they are? They can't.
Something will give very soon. Sorry, we'll have to agree to disagree and let time tell us the answer Loops.Last edited by Adster; 18-06-2006 at 05:36 PM.
Zubaidi:Monetary value of the Iraqi dinar must revert to the previous level, or at least to acceptable levels as it is in the Iraqi neighboring states.
Shabibi:The bank wants as a means to affect the economic and monetary policy by making the dinar a valuable and powerful.
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The U.S. would be an oil market except for the enviromentalist lobby and its friends in the U.S. House and U.S. Senate. We can't poke a stick in the ground without it being a major act of Congress. As long as the House and Senate are so close to 50/50 that neither party can get a 2/3's majority, you won't see ANY new oil drilling in the U.S. Now if the rest of the world's reserves get even tighter, maybe the people of this country will wise up and put legitimate pressure on "our" legislators at the polls to get some things changed. Until that happens, there's no need to plan on investing in U.S. oil exploration/drilling...
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Message for Loops
Hi Loops!
I too have been to that other forum on a couple of occasions, then never went back because it was too crazy and disrespectfull for my taste. I really enjoyed your opinions here and hope you feel welcome to express them. I am no Moderator however, I would respectfully ask a favor from you- one of the great features of this forum has been that it is pretty "clean". We have LOTS of dramatic Posters that are wildly expressive, which makes it fun for all of us. But you'll perhaps notice there is little "trash mouth" on here. I for one would love to have it continue that way. Not to be taken offensivly, please! I like opposing views when presented with data to back it up. Of course for the past few months I have sided with OSW Mike and Adam Adster as well as FreeDinar's Dr. Qaddourri. But who knows- maybe you could change my mind?
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