Thread: Go crazy in here!!!

Thanks, Tiffy, and adster. Encouragement ans reassurance does help every now and then. It has been a very trying week for me . I just got hit with another $6,000 medical bill. this week. there isn't anyway in hell I can pay it off without the RV. so you see I do get a little nervouse. ----But i do Know it will happen I just hope it does before Christmas. thanks again guys.

Now Bob...I don't know WHY, but Yogi is setting up the Cayman excursion for December 1 - 10.....could mean something....could mean nothing.

No worries bob this thing will blow wide open soon and you will be able to pay everything off!!!and i also wanted to say we all love ya bob,hang in there

sarah!!!GO DINAR GO!!!!!

Mike that was a wonderful post,i have never been to washington,hopefully i will get a chance to.

Hello to one and all,

I am a new member to Rolclub and I have some interest in the Dinar. I don’t want to put a huge damper on this (not that I could), but it seems many people on this forum appear very intelligent and well informed; therefore I am very interested in how some you will respond to my observations on this matter.

It seems at first blush that the vast majority of those who participate in this forum are either hopelessly optimistic or stand to gain from the sale of Iraqi Dinar. 1,000,000% currency revalues are unprecedented in our global economy. Furthermore, in the past when currencies such as the Kuwaiti Dollar experienced a far less swing in value, it was based upon the country’s ability to rebuild, re-stabilize and monetize their assets, and not a moment before. Iraq is in shambles, there is no tangible sign of stabilization and they are producing very little of value. Certainly they have a great deal of natural resources, but for the foreseeable future they will go largely untapped.

By enlarge, money exchange firms whose profitable business it is to buy and sell international monies, emphatically recommend to stay away from the Iraqi money sighting obvious reasons such social instability, economic instability, regular terrorist attacks on national and economic infrastructure, not to mention civil war that could result in literally splitting the country. Think about it; if this revalue was imminent, why wouldn’t the companies who have direct access to Dinar just be keeping as much as they could find for themselves rather than reselling it—for a rather healthy mark-up depending on denomination might I add. One thing is for sure, these guys are making lots on money no matter what happens!

It seems to me the only possible silver lining in this is George W. Bush’s obsession with proving he did “the right thing” in Iraq despite his countless blunders. Perhaps he and those he has influence over will be able to justify artificially inflating the value of the Dinar to finance the rebuilding of a country essentially we helped destroy in the name of Democracy. This will certainly help further line the pockets of Texas based oil infrastructure firms and others in the Bush camp. The larger question is however, could it be that you guys are the only folks that have figured out this plot? Do you think the Bush administration would let regular folks like us partake in such an astronomically profitable venture such as this? Do you think he could get away with such an unjustified, unaccountable, mis-value of alleged international currency? Can he make this happen for any country of his choosing while he is clearly incapable of revaluing the US Dollar in terms of what it buys for the average person in our country? And, what would the average Iraqi citizen do with their new found wealth; if it were me, I would cash it in for real money, and get out of Dodge!

Everybody wants a get rich quick scheme, myself included. Usually when something appears to be too good to be true, it’s usually not true, but I’m eager to be converted. I am looking forward to some solid fact based replies to who appears to be the devil’s advocate in this posting.

Originally Posted by Precocious

Hello to one and all,

I am a new member to Rolclub and I have some interest in the Dinar. I don’t want to put a huge damper on this (not that I could), but it seems many people on this forum appear very intelligent and well informed; therefore I am very interested in how some you will respond to my observations on this matter.

It seems at first blush that the vast majority of those who participate in this forum are either hopelessly optimistic or stand to gain from the sale of Iraqi Dinar. 1,000,000% currency revalues are unprecedented in our global economy. Furthermore, in the past when currencies such as the Kuwaiti Dollar experienced a far less swing in value, it was based upon the country’s ability to rebuild, re-stabilize and monetize their assets, and not a moment before. Iraq is in shambles, there is no tangible sign of stabilization and they are producing very little of value. Certainly they have a great deal of natural resources, but for the foreseeable future they will go largely untapped.

By enlarge, money exchange firms whose profitable business it is to buy and sell international monies, emphatically recommend to stay away from the Iraqi money sighting obvious reasons such social instability, economic instability, regular terrorist attacks on national and economic infrastructure, not to mention civil war that could result in literally splitting the country. Think about it; if this revalue was imminent, why wouldn’t the companies who have direct access to Dinar just be keeping as much as they could find for themselves rather than reselling it—for a rather healthy mark-up depending on denomination might I add. One thing is for sure, these guys are making lots on money no matter what happens!

It seems to me the only possible silver lining in this is George W. Bush’s obsession with proving he did “the right thing” in Iraq despite his countless blunders. Perhaps he and those he has influence over will be able to justify artificially inflating the value of the Dinar to finance the rebuilding of a country essentially we helped destroy in the name of Democracy. This will certainly help further line the pockets of Texas based oil infrastructure firms and others in the Bush camp. The larger question is however, could it be that you guys are the only folks that have figured out this plot? Do you think the Bush administration would let regular folks like us partake in such an astronomically profitable venture such as this? Do you think he could get away with such an unjustified, unaccountable, mis-value of alleged international currency? Can he make this happen for any country of his choosing while he is clearly incapable of revaluing the US Dollar in terms of what it buys for the average person in our country? And, what would the average Iraqi citizen do with their new found wealth; if it were me, I would cash it in for real money, and get out of Dodge!

Everybody wants a get rich quick scheme, myself included. Usually when something appears to be too good to be true, it’s usually not true, but I’m eager to be converted. I am looking forward to some solid fact based replies to who appears to be the devil’s advocate in this posting.

Go back to mid 2004, read all of the good stuff! Along with the bad, then come back. And then we can discuss your finding!

Originally Posted by tiffany

Now Bob...I don't know WHY, but Yogi is setting up the Cayman excursion for December 1 - 10.....could mean something....could mean nothing.

HOPEFULLY IT MEANS SOMETHING BIG,LIKE A BIG FAT REVALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by gogreen

Hi everybody, I have been keeping up with reading all the important stuff and am grateful to everyone who searches for and posts all the news articles they can find cocerning Iraq.
One thing though that has been plaquing me for some time now is the fact that hundreds of thousands of people have bought millions of dinars which most likely is now into the trillions of dinar in circulation. Now, when the IQD revalues as high as we all hope it to be, where is all the money going to come from to pay all of us as we trade in our IQD? We know that Iraq doesn't have the money to back up that amount. Sure they have the oil, but most of it is still in the ground and what they are pumping out right now is helping them to keep going economically but thats about it. So am I to assume that the trillions of dollars that havre to be paid out will come from the international banking community? I obviously don't have much understanding when it comes to the worlds monetary systems. Is anyone able to please put my mind at ease since I have put some of my last money (I lost big time with PIPS) into buying a few millon IQD's to hopefully see better financial times ahead.
Thanks for anyone bringing forth factual, logical information to put my mind at ease,
gogreen (sorry for being so long winded )

HEY GOGREEN!i WORK WITH OVER 400 PEOPLE AND OF THAT 400 THERE ARE ROUGHLY 35 TO 40 PEOPLE WHO HAVE PURCHASED DINAR!!tHERE REALLY ISN'T THAT MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY BOUGHT THE DINAR

SARAH!!

I think I read at the other place a while age that Afganistan had a currency
increase from under a penny to .02. All they have is opium to sell and they had a r/v. Sorry that I can't back it up with an article but I'm sure with all of the detectives here some one could verify this. If not just thats cool too. Just trying to keep positive.

Originally Posted by Precocious

Hello to one and all,

Everybody wants a get rich quick scheme, myself included. Usually when something appears to be too good to be true, it’s usually not true, but I’m eager to be converted. I am looking forward to some solid fact based replies to who appears to be the devil’s advocate in this posting.

Thank you, one interesting and sane advocate to question the cynically optimists gathered here in RC... Yes, you have and rightfully, you are bewildered yourself at the immense degree fathom here on the Dinar and its sure as hell, RV that could, SHOULD and WILL occur.... well? will it that soon???

You had honestly displayed your doubts, with a sane and qualified assessment overlooking at the many factors culminating to your reluctance and by that virtue, I commend that outspoken outlook that doesnt seem to tally with the rest, or most in this Dinar Forum, regarding the irony of the RV ever taking place in light of the current instability still pursuing...

My thoughts then? You hit the nail where it is.... and it will ricochet wildly as well despite the turbulence still arising from every dawn appearance we galso get to hear when the coalition forces who are in there that tries to calm the local temperaments heating up at each other, being the target caught in the crossfire and again separately targeted by the AlQaeda backed insurgents, and with the lack of political will to truly address the core issues that is stemming from sectarian hate / violence... our brave men fighting the "devil" is not only becoming the advocate to peace and expected arm to nation building, they are ruthlessly facing a hidden evil from a position of a "sitting Dinar Duck"!

As to your questioning of the Dinar being glorified here, you have a dinasaurus doubt raised that challenges EVERYone who should truly be aware of the stats envelloping in Iraq as oppose to Kuwait... a determimned oil-rich state that sees a difference to come out and put aside all those religious and fanaticism that once again capitulated into a successful testimony to an economic wealth in the region.

Again, as to my thoughts here... if I had the upperhand, I would first had allowed all the DEMs to make regular assessment trips to Iraq, incl. the doubting REPs as well, invite not only Talabani across but the PM and his Deputies to explain to the WEST why they fail to see and understand in stopping the two main religious factions from harmonising with each other, have that trial of Saddam KIV'd until peace is finally restored and bustling with prosperity, that long isolation and almost forgetting him in his cell is just a start of a lengthy punishment to his crimes, killing him by execution ASAP is too simple an easy a cause to take, criminals don't see that as a deterrance... living like a forgotten pariah left to rot in a cell is intolerable, crucifying to say the least.... but many don't realise this effect unfortunately, then comes the complete curfew needed and to last as long as needed untill each and every Iraqi is pulled out separately for identification and through that process, weed out easily the insurgents, the foreigners who are AlQaeda related and possibly too, the munitions cache in every possible suspected home, the Mullahs gets sanctioned from open preaching and/or gatherings, only the soldiers and new recruits get to come out and by that, continue the process of thetraining and recruitment faster without interferring suicidal bombers mingling in between either, American soldiers can move freely without being targeted easily in the maze of screaming Iraqis causing more diversion and chaos for the brave soldiers policing the districts and roads.

This should have taken place, systematically until it progresses and meanwhile, with more safety guaranteed and easily visible, the food distribution continues with every Iraqi home at a level that can be co-ordinated both by outside NGO organisations and UN Relief groups and from the many coalition forces represented there...

All these should have easily taken place while giving jobs too to thoe Iraqis to go back to work... but a curfew stays as long as the search and destroy and cache find of weapons remains and all those guns and light artillery would have been rounded gradually EVERYDAY...as opposed to being spent by killing the brave men defending a hopless policy riddled by local Iraqi politicians and the half-hearted support from Congress pinned down by the DEMs and many of you too against the need to see Bush getting through to stabilising Iraq... but YOU ALL WANT to have a piece of the cake...the wealth gathered from the Dinar being RV'd soon.... hmmmm, wishful thinking mates!!!

It is still bleak indeed and more uncertain it becomes with the mid term elections fast approaching...

Iraq should have been NUKED with a longstanding curfew since Saddam was arrested...and many lives would have been spared if those suicidal bombings were curtailed and prevented with such a large scale and safer measure!

RV then...? Its anyones educated guess really...


YB. - cheers for thats my take from a military standpoint....