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    وزير الماليه يعرب عن عدم تفاؤله بإمكانية التصويت على الموازنة قريبا
    من هادي الهاديBy Hadi Hadi
    بغداد-( أصوات العراق)Baghdad - (Voices of Iraq)
    قال وزير المالية باقر الزبيدي اليوم السبت إنه لا يشعر بالتفاؤل إزاء إمكانية التصويت قريبا على الموازنة داخل مجلس النواب.According to the Minister of Finance Baqer al-Zubaidi today, Saturday, that he does not feel optimistic about the possibility to vote soon on a budget in the House of Representatives.
    وأوضح الزبيدي في تصريح لوكالة أنباء ( أصوات العراق) المستقلة " من الضروري ان يضع مجلس النواب في حساباته ان كل يوم يمر علينا يفوت علينا الفرصة للبدء بإعمار البلاد."The Zubaidi told News (Voices of Iraq) Independent, "it is necessary to put the House in his calculations, every day we fail to seize the opportunity to begin the reconstruction of the country."
    وأضاف " الحكومة تعتقد ان هذا التأخير غير مبرر ويجب ان يعقد اعضاء البرلمان جلساتهم للانتهاء من الموازنة لان الحكومة الان معطلة ومكبلة غير قادرة على ان تعمل."He added, "The government believes that this delay is unjustified and should be held Members of Parliament sit for the completion of the budget because the government is now suspended, and chained unable to work."
    ونفى الوزير أن تكون وزارة المالية قد منحت سلف مالية الى مجالس المحافظات باستثناء سلفة واحدة بستة ملايين دينار لكل المواطنين."The minister denied that the Finance Ministry had granted advances to the district councils except his predecessor and one six million dinars for all citizens. "
    وأضاف " الموازنة تأخرت لذا لاتستطيع وزارة المالية ان تطلق اي مبلغ ومن ضمنها مبالغ زيادة رواتب الموظفين وكل تأخير في الموازنة هو تأخير في عمل الحكومة."He added : "Therefore, the budget was delayed by the Ministry of Finance can not be launched, including the amount of any payments increase staff salaries and any delay in the budget is the delay in the work of the government."
    وقال إنه فيما يتعلق بالمنافع الاجتماعية للرئاسات الثلاث (رئاسة الجمهورية والوزراء ورئاسة مجلس النواب) فمن وجهة نظر وزارة المالية لايمكن لاي دولة من دول العالم الا تكون هناك مخصصات ماليه لرئيس الجمهورية في سفره وكذلك رئيس الوزراء والنواب."He said that with regard to social benefits for the three presidencies (Presidency of the Republic, ministers and the presidency of the House of Representatives) From the point of view of the Ministry of Finance can not be any other country in the world that there is not a financial allocations for the President of the Republic in his travels as well as the Prime Minister and the House of Representatives. "
    وأوضح " لايمكن للموازنة او الوزارات ان تلبي مختلف متطلبات المجتمع وبالتالي هناك ابواب المنافع الاجتماعية في كل موازنات العالم وما خصص في موازنة العراق لايساوي شىء مقارنة بما موجود لدى الرؤساء والملوك والامراء واعتقد ان النقاش الذي حصل بين اعضاء مجلس النواب هو سياسي وليس مالي."He explained, "You can not budget or ministries to meet the various demands of the international community, and consequently, there is a section of social benefits in the budgets of all the world and allocated in the budget for Iraq Aisawi nothing in comparison with what is available from the presidents and kings, princes and I think that the discussion that took place between members of the House of Representatives is political, not financial."
    وأضاف"نواب البرلمان طالبوا بخفض النسب المخصصة للرئاسات بالنسبة للمنافع الاجتماعية بنسبة 35% وكذلك طالبوا بتخفيض النسبة الى 50% ووزارة الماليه ليس من حقها ان تعارض هذا الطلب لانهم ممثلوا الشعب."He added, "the MPs demanded to reduce quotas for the presidencies of social benefits by 35% and also demanded a reduction to 50% and the Ministry of Finance have no right to oppose this request because they representatives of the people."
    واكد الزبيدي"اعتمدنا في كتابة الموازنة للعام الحالي على كل موازنات العالم والملاحظ ان المجلس لم يبد اعتراضه على موازنات العامين الماضيين لكن هناك وجهات نظر مختلفة على الموازنة الحالية."The Zubaidi "adopted in writing the budget for the current year on the budgets of all the world, and noted that the Council has expressed its objection to the budgets of the last two years, but there are different views on the current budget."
    وعقد مجلس النواب العراقى جلسته الإعتيادية اليوم بعد إكتمال النصاب القانونى للجلسة وبحضور أكثر من 200 عضو .The House of Representatives held its regular Iraqi today after a quorum of the meeting and the presence of more than 200 members.
    ونوه رئيس المجلس محمود المشهداني فى بداية الجلسة الى أن إقرار موازنة عام 2007 المقرر اليوم يعد عملا عظيما ينتظره الشعب العراقي.He commended the President of the Council, Mahmoud Almshahadani at the beginning of the meeting that the adoption of the budget 2007 decision today is a great job waiting for the Iraqi people.
    لكن المناقشات الحادة والجدالات حول المنافع الإجتماعية ومخصصات رئاسة الجمهورية فى الموازنة العامة لعام 2007 أدت إلى رفع الجلسة ، حيث تقرر تأجيلها إلى السبت القادم.But the sharp debates and arguments about social benefits and allocations presidency in the general budget for 2007 led to the adjournment of the meeting, where a decision was postponed to next Saturday.
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    وزير الماليه يعرب عن عدم تفاؤله بإمكانية التصويت على الموازنة قريبا
    من هادي الهاديBy Hadi Hadi
    بغداد-( أصوات العراق)Baghdad - (Voices of Iraq)
    قال وزير المالية باقر الزبيدي اليوم السبت إنه لا يشعر بالتفاؤل إزاء إمكانية التصويت قريبا على الموازنة داخل مجلس النواب.According to the Minister of Finance Baqer al-Zubaidi today, Saturday, that he does not feel optimistic about the possibility to vote soon on a budget in the House of Representatives.
    وأوضح الزبيدي في تصريح لوكالة أنباء ( أصوات العراق) المستقلة " من الضروري ان يضع مجلس النواب في حساباته ان كل يوم يمر علينا يفوت علينا الفرصة للبدء بإعمار البلاد."The Zubaidi told News (Voices of Iraq) Independent, "it is necessary to put the House in his calculations, every day we fail to seize the opportunity to begin the reconstruction of the country."
    وأضاف " الحكومة تعتقد ان هذا التأخير غير مبرر ويجب ان يعقد اعضاء البرلمان جلساتهم للانتهاء من الموازنة لان الحكومة الان معطلة ومكبلة غير قادرة على ان تعمل."He added, "The government believes that this delay is unjustified and should be held Members of Parliament sit for the completion of the budget because the government is now suspended, and chained unable to work."
    ونفى الوزير أن تكون وزارة المالية قد منحت سلف مالية الى مجالس المحافظات باستثناء سلفة واحدة بستة ملايين دينار لكل المواطنين."The minister denied that the Finance Ministry had granted advances to the district councils except his predecessor and one six million dinars for all citizens. "
    وأضاف " الموازنة تأخرت لذا لاتستطيع وزارة المالية ان تطلق اي مبلغ ومن ضمنها مبالغ زيادة رواتب الموظفين وكل تأخير في الموازنة هو تأخير في عمل الحكومة."He added : "Therefore, the budget was delayed by the Ministry of Finance can not be launched, including the amount of any payments increase staff salaries and any delay in the budget is the delay in the work of the government."
    وقال إنه فيما يتعلق بالمنافع الاجتماعية للرئاسات الثلاث (رئاسة الجمهورية والوزراء ورئاسة مجلس النواب) فمن وجهة نظر وزارة المالية لايمكن لاي دولة من دول العالم الا تكون هناك مخصصات ماليه لرئيس الجمهورية في سفره وكذلك رئيس الوزراء والنواب."He said that with regard to social benefits for the three presidencies (Presidency of the Republic, ministers and the presidency of the House of Representatives) From the point of view of the Ministry of Finance can not be any other country in the world that there is not a financial allocations for the President of the Republic in his travels as well as the Prime Minister and the House of Representatives. "
    وأوضح " لايمكن للموازنة او الوزارات ان تلبي مختلف متطلبات المجتمع وبالتالي هناك ابواب المنافع الاجتماعية في كل موازنات العالم وما خصص في موازنة العراق لايساوي شىء مقارنة بما موجود لدى الرؤساء والملوك والامراء واعتقد ان النقاش الذي حصل بين اعضاء مجلس النواب هو سياسي وليس مالي."He explained, "You can not budget or ministries to meet the various demands of the international community, and consequently, there is a section of social benefits in the budgets of all the world and allocated in the budget for Iraq Aisawi nothing in comparison with what is available from the presidents and kings, princes and I think that the discussion that took place between members of the House of Representatives is political, not financial."
    وأضاف"نواب البرلمان طالبوا بخفض النسب المخصصة للرئاسات بالنسبة للمنافع الاجتماعية بنسبة 35% وكذلك طالبوا بتخفيض النسبة الى 50% ووزارة الماليه ليس من حقها ان تعارض هذا الطلب لانهم ممثلوا الشعب."He added, "the MPs demanded to reduce quotas for the presidencies of social benefits by 35% and also demanded a reduction to 50% and the Ministry of Finance have no right to oppose this request because they representatives of the people."
    واكد الزبيدي"اعتمدنا في كتابة الموازنة للعام الحالي على كل موازنات العالم والملاحظ ان المجلس لم يبد اعتراضه على موازنات العامين الماضيين لكن هناك وجهات نظر مختلفة على الموازنة الحالية."The Zubaidi "adopted in writing the budget for the current year on the budgets of all the world, and noted that the Council has expressed its objection to the budgets of the last two years, but there are different views on the current budget."
    وعقد مجلس النواب العراقى جلسته الإعتيادية اليوم بعد إكتمال النصاب القانونى للجلسة وبحضور أكثر من 200 عضو .The House of Representatives held its regular Iraqi today after a quorum of the meeting and the presence of more than 200 members.
    ونوه رئيس المجلس محمود المشهداني فى بداية الجلسة الى أن إقرار موازنة عام 2007 المقرر اليوم يعد عملا عظيما ينتظره الشعب العراقي.He commended the President of the Council, Mahmoud Almshahadani at the beginning of the meeting that the adoption of the budget 2007 decision today is a great job waiting for the Iraqi people.
    لكن المناقشات الحادة والجدالات حول المنافع الإجتماعية ومخصصات رئاسة الجمهورية فى الموازنة العامة لعام 2007 أدت إلى رفع الجلسة ، حيث تقرر تأجيلها إلى السبت القادم.But the sharp debates and arguments about social benefits and allocations presidency in the general budget for 2007 led to the adjournment of the meeting, where a decision was postponed to next Saturday.

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    ان ابتلاء الشعب المسلم بحكام سفله اميين وفقهاء غارقين بالجمود الفكري لايفقهون سوى مصلحة انفسهم ولاقيمون اي اعتبار لتاريخ او دين او اخلاق لننظر الى التوجس والقلق والخوف عند حكام العرب وما يسمى برائيس رابطة علماء المسلمين في العالم الشيخ القرضاوي من انتشارمذهب التشيع في العالم السني الا يسئل العقلاء والمثقفون ماهي القوة في هذا المذهب التي تجعل السياسي السني والعالم السني يهرج ويتهم ويشتم المذهب الشيع برغم ان المؤسسات السنيه الدينيه والسياسيه تمسك بزمام الامور في العالمين العربي والاسلامي ماهو سر التحول من المذهب السني الى المذهب الشيعي هل هناك عاقل في الدنيا يضحي براحته وسمعته وتمتعه بملذات الدنيا ويتحول الى مذهب طريقه مليء بالمصاعب والقتل والشبهات الضاغطه والاقصاء؟ اذن هناك اسرار غيبت عن المسلمين وادرك الباحثون عن الحقيقه ان هناك غش وتضليل, ولنضرب مثالا على طريقة تعامل الطالباني وبيانات ما يسمى بلقاعده الطالبان عندما سيطرون على افغانستان قدموا ادلتهم العلميه للشيعه في سبيل تحولهم من المذهب الشيعي الى المذهب السني اولا سبي النساء وصنع مجزرة في الرجال نحروهم كما تنحر الابل وليس عندهم ما يقدمون من ادله مقنعه سوى انهم عزلوا الاطفال وادخلوهم في مدارس يدرسونهم كفر الشيعه والبرائه من اهل البيت عليهم السلام وهذا ما نشرته بيانات القاعده في بلاد الرافدين فهل من الانصاف والمنطق السديد تسود العالم العربي والاسلامي هذه الفوضى الفكريه؟ نحن نتحدى المؤسسه الدينيه وبالتحديد في السعوديه ان تطلب حوارا عقيديا في الفضائيات واتمنى ان تزيف الفكر الشيعي وتثبت خرافته حتى تحصن افكار من تخشى عليهم من الدخول في المذهب الشيعي .هذا الارهاب الفكري والتجني وابعاد الانسان عن رغبته وقناعاته وفرض اجنده عليه بشعارات دينيه لاتتصل باهداف الاسلام يشكل اخطر انواع الارهاب . وانابعكس الاتجاه ادعوا ابناء الشيعه الى الدخول في المذهب السني ولكن عن قناعة وبحث وتدبر بعيدا عن التعصب والتذبذب والجهل المركب فالمذهب السني لماذا لايخيفنا ولايشكل عدوانيه في نفوسنا نحن نتقدم بالسؤال الى المثقف العربي وليس لنا كلام مع من خرجته مدرسة التطرف وغسل دماغه بحيث وضع في اركان عقيدته التقرب الى الله بتكفير الشيعه نقول ان التضعضع الحاصل في سير المعتقدات السنيه هو التشدد الزائد والتطرف عندما علماء السنه الذين يخشون من وضع كتاب شيعي في المكتبة السنيه بينما الشيعه لايعتمدون في نقل الحوارات الى على كتب اخوتنا السنه اذهب الى المغرب العربي واسئل عن كتاب شيعي سيجيبك المواطن العادي منهم الشيعه انظر الى فضائية المغرب عاصمة الدوله الحسنيه تجد العيد في يوم العاشر من المحرم اقتدءا بالبرنامج الاموي وتنكيلا برسول الله هل من الانصاف للمسلم ان يعظم الفاسق الذي اجمع علماء السنه المنصفون على خروج يزيد من المله يحتفلون بقتل ريحانة رسول الله انا ابرا الشعوب ولكن هذه سياسة التجهيل والاستغفال اذا لم يلتفت اليها الحريصون على المذهب السني ستحل الكارثه ان عاجلا او اجلا ان السنة فيهم عظماء صنعوا التاريخ وفيهم فقهاء منصفون وباحثون حقيقيون موضوعيون وفيهم الادباء والفلاسفه والعباقره تبقى مسئلة الاختيار للتعبد هو مسؤل امام الله ولست انا من يفرض عليه قناعات نتمنى ان يدرك الجميع من سخروا انفسهم لترويج تجارة الفتن وجندوا طاقاتهم فهذا سعود الفيصل والمملوك عبد الله صغير وعجوز مصر الشاذ جنسيا يجرون المنطقه الى هاوية الصراع المذهبي الطائفي ويجعلون من انفسهم قيمين على الشعب العراقي اما شيوخ الخليج فهم كربات الحجال لايعرفون سوى الجنس ولذة التسط على شعوبهم المخدره المذلوله فهم ليسوا الا موضفين لايملك احدهم قرار طلاق زوجته لقد كشف النواح على صدام عورات العرب وارجعهم الى تاريخ اوسخ من نفوسهم
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    Cool Interesting..

    Click the link and see the News Cast., the "Tube". Iraq | The Agonist pretty Interesting on the ground. About 8 minutes long.

    I am trying to find this Article there.


    Iraq | The Agonist
    Independent - Iraq's massive oil reserves, the third-largest in the world, are about to be ... scale exploitation by Western oil companies under a controversial law ... has said his government could review ...

    agonist.org/topic/iraq

    And this Article as well.

    Saddam Hussein
    World Celebrity: Culture Review: Fashion Guide: Film Review ... Breaking News: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 ... Will oil prices keep falling? Iraq's new draft hydrocarbons law will pave the way for

    Saddam Hussein
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    Cool This one was from Thursday or Saturday in Baghdad...

    DAVOS: Iraq Vice President Says No US Favoritism In Oil Law



    By Adam Smallman, Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

    DAVOS, Switzerland -(Dow Jones)- Iraq's Vice President Adil Abdul-Mahdi
    Saturday rejected rumors that its thorny and long-delayed oil law guaranteed the U.S. access to a share of its oil, adding implementation of the law will happen after it had spent "some weeks" being discussed among Iraq's lawmakers.

    "It's absolutely not true" that the U.S. or any other named country had preferential treatment under the proposed law, Abdul-Mahdi said, which is seen as essential to develop Iraq's battle-torn oil industry.

    If approved, the law is expected to encourage foreign oil companies to modernize Iraq's oil sector and meet the country's goal of doubling the current crude production of 2.5 million barrels a day by 2010. Security conditions continue to inhibit significant developments of its oil industry.

    Speaking to Dow Jones Newswires on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum here, Abdul-Mahdi said the law "is open to everyone."

    "All the revenues go to the central power" in Baghdad he reiterated, though the regions will have their say. He didn't elaborate.

    Iraqi oil officials have yet to bridge gaps in the controversial draft hydrocarbons law and the submission to the Iraqi cabinet for review of the draft is likely to be delayed for several days, a senior Iraqi oil official in Baghdad said Thursday.

    "We still have some disputes over some of the draft law articles," the official, who is taking part in drafting the document, told Dow Jones Newswires. "I don't know specifically when we will present the law to the cabinet."

    The official declined to comment on areas where disagreements continue in the law.

    The federal government and the Kurdistan Regional Government have clashed over the drafting of the law. The Kurds want control of oil resources in their territories and a big share of oil revenue.

    Big foreign energy firms are eager to know what form contracts will take in the hydrocarbons law and how much, for example, of a given oil block or field will be owned by the Iraqi government and what level of cost recovery they can expect from the government for investing billions of dollars.

    -By Adam Smallman, Dow Jones Newswires; +44 (0) 20 7842 9343; adam.smallman@ dowjones.com (Hassan Hafidh in Jordan contributed to this story.)


    (END) Dow Jones Newswires
    01-27-071120ET
    Copyright (c) 2007 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.



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    Cool Couple Good Sites...

    1. Jubilee Iraq - Iraqi views on debt

    Paying for the Executioner's Bullets
    Iraqi views on debt and reparations
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    2. January 2007: This Far and No Further

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cdn Scrooge View Post
    I have been thinking about this situation regarding the proposed HCL and the Kurds objections to it being passed without their agreement on some of the details.

    Iraq is now a democracy and that means "majority rules". The Kurds do not have a majority position in parliament. So, if parliament decides to go ahead and vote on the HCL as it stands (the final draft prepared by the Oil Commmittee) and the majority of parliament votes yes then it becomes law whether the Kurds like it or not.

    The Kurds by themselves (nor any other group individually) cannot hold up passage of this law.

    I know Iraq is new to the concept of democracy and perhaps they don't realize the significance of this concept, but any one of us who has lived through this sort of situation in our own countries is quite familiar with it. We often see laws passed by the majority party over objections from the minority parties. No democratic government that I'm aware of requires 100% approval in passing legislation through parliament.

    Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
    its simply 'wording' as an article stated that they are haggling out. and you know as well as i do that the kurds are THE group that are past ready for all this stuff to be done as they went ahead and started without the rest of the country and that caused everyone else to start gettin in gear.

    i would put my money in the kurds hands anyday and if they want wording to be fixed in the law then it needs to be done. relax it wont take them long, we know they are not ones to fiddle.
    JULY STILL AINT NO LIE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inscrutable View Post
    What???6 million per citizen.
    Well.. 27M people? 6M dinar each? that comes to ..

    162,000,000,000,000... 162 TRILLION Dinars? On the surface, how is that possible?

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    The House of Representatives held its usual after quorum

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    مجلس النواب يعقد جلسته الإعتيادية بعد إكتمال النصاب القانونىThe House of Representatives held its usual after quorum
    من سانتا ميخائيلFrom Santa Mikhail
    (لإضافة عقد الجلسة واكتمال النصاب)(In addition to the meeting and quorum)
    بغداد- (أصوات العراق)Baghdad - (Voices of Iraq)
    عقد مجلس النواب العراقى جلسته الإعتيادية اليوم السبت بعد إكتمال النصاب القانونى للجلسة وبحضور أكثر من 200 عضو .The Iraqi parliament held its usual today, Saturday, after a quorum of the meeting and the presence of more than 200 members.
    ونوه رئيس المجلس محمود المشهداني فى بداية الجلسة الى أن إقرار موازنة عام 2007 المقرر اليوم يعد عملا عظيما ينتظره الشعب العراقي.He commended the President of the Council, Mahmoud Almshahadani at the beginning of the meeting that the adoption of the budget 2007 decision today is a great job waiting for the Iraqi people.
    كان عضو بمجلس النواب عن قائمة التحالف الكردستانينوزاد صالح قال فى وقت سابق اليوم السبت لوكالة أنباء (أصوات العراق) المستقلة إنه "في حال إكتمال النصاب القانوني لجلسة النواب اليوم فسيتم قراءة مشروع الموازنة للتصويت عليها من قبل اعضاء المجلس."Was a member of the House of Representatives from the Alliance list Kardstaninozad Saleh said earlier today, Saturday, the News Agency (Voices of Iraq) Independent that "in the event of a quorum for the House of Representatives today will be reading of the draft budget of the vote by members of the Council."
    وأضاف صالح "في حال عدم إكتمال النصاب القانوني لجلسة اليوم سيتم تأجيها الى بعد العاشر من محرم ."Saleh added, "in the absence of a quorum for today's meeting will be to Tajiha after the 10th of Muharram."
    ومن جانبه , قال عباس البياتي عضو مجلس النواب عن الائتلاف العراقي الموحد لـ(أصوات العراق) "ان مشروع الموازنة قطع أشواطا من الاتفاق السياسي بين الكتل , حيث ساهم لقاء قادة الكتل يوم الخميس الماضي في التقريب من نقاط الخلاف ولم يبق غير فقرة واحدة أو إثنين تم وضع آراء لها."On his part, Abbas Al-Bayati, Member of the House of Representatives of the United Iraqi Alliance told (Voices of Iraq) that "the draft budget cutting ahead of the political agreement between blocs, which contributed to meeting the leaders of the bloc last Thursday in bringing the points of contention, leaving nothing but a single paragraph or two views have been developed."
    وتابع البياتي "اغلقت جلسة يوم الخميس الماضي ولم تعد مفتوحة، أي أننا اليوم نحتاج الى أكتمال النصاب القانوني (138 عضوا من مجموع 275 ) لعقد الجلسة , وإذا إكتمل النصاب سيم التصويت على الموازنة."He continued Bayati "closed meeting last Thursday and no longer open, any day, we need a quorum (138 of the total 275) for the meeting, and if a quorum was Sim vote on the budget."
    وكانت جلسات البرلمان قد تم تأجيلها أكثر من مرة في الشهر الماضي بسبب عدم إكتمال النصاب القانوني (اكثر من نصف عدد الاعضاء البالغ 275 عضوا) ، مما اضطر المجلس الى عقد جلسات تشاورية.The parliament sessions have been postponed more than once in the last month due to lack of quorum (more than half the members of 275 members), forcing the Council to hold consultative meetings.
    كما كانت الجلسات قد توقفت في الفترة السابقة بسبب عطلة عيد الاضحى المبارك وسفر العديد من الاعضاء لأداء فريضة الحج.As the meetings had stopped in the previous period due to holiday Eid Al-Adha holiday and travel many members to perform the Hajj.
    ح مH M


    He commended the President of the Council, Mahmoud Almshahadani at the beginning of the meeting that the adoption of the budget 2007 decision today is a great job waiting for the Iraqi people.


    Folks is it saying that the House passed 2007 Budget today?
    the COUNCIL passed it. it then goes to parliament for ratification.
    JULY STILL AINT NO LIE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inscrutable View Post
    What???6 million per citizen.

    At this point I don't know what to make of any news coming out of Iraq. A lot of things just don't make sense.....

    Misinformation, disinformation or out right lies and exaggerations. Maybe lost translations.

    Who knows? But at this point I am no longer confident in what I read, whether it's positive or negative. There always seems to be an article which contradicts the last.

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