New Lotto Update

[kingpau]

I was just checking you out to see if you were sincere in your quest for answers. Its all good.

Thanks Ace, no harm done.

[aceman]

We all want the best for everyone. Sometimes it just gets alittle frustrating when things get twisted and the answers seem vague. All we can do is wait and watch.

[aceman]

Goodnight all and I hope all are hopes come forth in the near future.

[BM]

There are three things that differentiate the Cohen case with HA Lotto.

1. He was a bookmaker taking sports wagers which are clearly defined in the wire act.

2. He was taking bets on events happening in the US

3. He was taking wagers via the telephone which is also clearly defined in the wire act.

Lotteries as defined in the act is the transportation of physical lottery tickets. Internet Lotto's are not defined in the act and the operation is totally outside of the US and is licensed in a foreign jurisdiction. If US citizens wish to participate or not it is up to them and the onus is on them.

Bryan

[kingpau]

There are three things that differentiate the Cohen case with HA Lotto.

1. He was a bookmaker taking sports wagers which are clearly defined in the wire act.

2. He was taking bets on events happening in the US

3. He was taking wagers via the telephone which is also clearly defined in the wire act.

Lotteries as defined in the act is the transportation of physical lottery tickets. Internet Lotto's are not defined in the act and the operation is totally outside of the US and is licensed in a foreign jurisdiction.

"If US citizens wish to participate or not it is up to them and the onus is on them"

Bryan

I guess we'll find out soon. Thanks for your input again Bryan.

[chrissl]

Well said Boss,
Lets get it on i'm ready to fly into it head first my feet arn't so good these days hehehe.
don't ya just love it.
old yellow stuff hi ho hi ho its off to work we go!

[mammoth]

I knew I saw it somewhere.
Are you still saying this is the right way for us ROLclub members Bryan?
thanks, Pete.

ROLclub members should signup under the ROLclubs link, that way all Rolclub members will benefit from member signups, much better to keep together as a group.

Bryan

[Pippyman]

Sorry but this article does not have anything to do with online lotteries. If you read the headings and the actual article he is strictly speaking of "internet sports bookings" so you are comparing apples to oranges..... Try again if you must just make sure you get the right article next time.

Even as a certain "Madness" crowds network airwaves during the month of March, and as Americans gamble in various forms in ever-increasing numbers, gambling on sporting events is strictly regulated and, in most cases, prohibited outright under federal and state law. Notwithstanding these general prohibitions, however, the exponential growth in the use of the Internet by the mass public has been accompanied by a corresponding growth in the creation of Internet websites which offer Americans the ability to gamble on-line without the need for a neighborhood bookie. From on-line private lotteries, to on-line card games, "quiz shows," and traditional sports books, these websites offer privacy and anonymity to both the owners of the sites and their "clients" while, paradoxically, offering a perceived aura of legitimacy that derives from the fact that anyone can "sign on" to and use them as freely as any legitimate e-commerce site.

This article examines one form of gambling website — the Internet sports book — and the application of the Wire Wager Act, 18 U.S.C. §1084, to enforcement operations directed against the operators of those websites. It will demonstrate that, notwithstanding the novel form that they take, these web-based books are fundamentally no different than bookmaking operations run by traditional "pay phone" bookies, and that there is no reason why the Wire Wager Act should not apply to such high-tech Internet bookies. The article will also examine why recurring arguments that seek to preclude application of the Wire Wager Act to Internet bookmakers — many of which can be, and often are, made in defense to prosecution of crimes committed via the Internet under other federal statutes — are unpersuasive.

II. The Rise Of The Internet Sports book

In the last several years, dozens of Internet sports books have sprung into existence. Many are located offshore, in Central American countries or on Carribean island nations where their bookmaking activities are not illegal.

[whatis]

Yo bro I guess you have settled in there in the mining Town of Kal.

I don't no what all these people are so worried about, as Bryan beet me to it there is a BIG difference between "sports BETTING" and Lotto and anyway here in Aus things are only slightly diff not that it is going to bother me especially with an off shore card .
hehe.
Laurie

[chrissl]

yep passed all the mining [MARCSTA] certificate yesterday just waiting for medical then placement to mine site.