Thread: Does anyone know how BM was earning money for PIPS?

Originally Posted by peterben

Does it really matter at this point what BM did when...? What about NOW? Where are we now, after the communication brakedown? What is the next step, if there is one. There is, of course. The question is: who will take it and how? F.i: will BM still handle it since he indicated that "...this will end PIPS"? This should not happen. Think about it!

Where do we go from here?

peterben

Interesting,

I agree, it doesn't matter what he did or did not do in the past, for that cannot be changed. As to where we are now, which is all that really matters, sorry to say, but Bryan and Barry have already stated what will happen in his last statement after being forced to admitting he was a liar. In simple terms, he didn't like the way Marek was playing the game, so he took his ball and ran home after being caught cheating just like any five year old would do. Pathetic as there statement was, it certainly does further expose them for what they really are.

At least that is how some of us read their threat to not bring PIPS back. I would say that this is a clear decision on their part not to honor their promises to anyone, not even the most faithful followers who are hanging onto the last bit of hope. It is all up to BN at this point, and with a statement like Bryan and Barry just made, this will make the BN decision even easier given the fact he admitted he would not continue and honor his obligations now that he was caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

That was about the most stupid remark I ever heard, and someday everyone will see the real truth about the mental illness of being pathological liars. Sad, very sad, but I do hope Bryan, Barry and Sharon get the help they need when all is said and done.

Good luck to all, Mike

I do not know why people seem to be so against what Bryan has tried to do.

In view of what happened to Freelandopps regarding the antics of the detractors of that program, principally those at Talkgold, it has been suggested in this very forum for Bryan to step into the background with any new ventures; including the proposed revival of the Pips program. I would have thought that was what he was trying to do with Barry. He is, basically, a fairly decent sort from what I have seen of him so why are people so unforgiving at his attempts at survival? Can anyone accuse him of any embezzlement?

I did not join 10x5 because I have been preoccupied elsewhere but if I had known that Bryan was involved, I would have joined with alacrity. Is it still operational, does anybody know?

Remember, BN has, since August 2004, not been able to accuse him of any wrong doing. You've got to ask yourself why not?

By contrast, a similar program, Ginsystem, which was closed sometime after Pips has reported. The Ceo has been heavily fined, his appeal has been rejected by the authorities in Singapore, imprisonment for extortion has been threatened and the impounded funds are currently being returned to punters; less the authority's expenses of course.

All fair minded people will see Mr Marsden for who he really is. The circumstances are extra-ordinary.

eman.

Originally Posted by eman

I do not know why people seem to be so against what Bryan has tried to do.

In view of what happened to Freelandopps regarding the antics of the detractors of that program, principally those at Talkgold, it has been suggested in this very forum for Bryan to step into the background with any new ventures; including the proposed revival of the Pips program. I would have thought that was what he was trying to do with Barry. He is, basically, a fairly decent sort from what I have seen of him so why are people so unforgiving at his attempts at survival? Can anyone accuse him of any embezzlement?

I did not join 10x5 because I have been preoccupied elsewhere but if I had known that Bryan was involved, I would have joined with alacrity. Is it still operational, does anybody know?

Remember, BN has, since August 2004, not been able to accuse him of any wrong doing. You've got to ask yourself why not?

By contrast, a similar program, Ginsystem, which was closed sometime after Pips has reported. The Ceo has been heavily fined, his appeal has been rejected by the authorities in Singapore, imprisonment for extortion has been threatened and the impounded funds are currently being returned to punters; less the authority's expenses of course.

All fair minded people will see Mr Marsden for who he really is. The circumstances are extra-ordinary.

eman.

Interesting,

Just as I posted before, everyone is different, and each person has a different opinion on lying or decieving others, so some will condone it as OK if trying to survive, while others will not excuse it no matter what the excuse. It is really as simple as that.

It is not saying anyone is better than the other for which side of issue they choose, it is not for others to judge how we should feel, but just as I won't change your mind about Bryan and Barry, you won't change mine either.

If survival was the issue, and this we do not know a thing about since the only news we have heard is from Bryan and Barry, so how can you believe what is being said? You can't for we have heard far too many lies already. HA lotto was an acceptable survival program, and I foolishly supported this venture, but look what happened, nothing, and months of wasted time while this lame duck was trying to fly. If anything was to be a survival plan, he should have brought the same deal back and I might have understood the Barry James name. Actually, he should have used Jesse James name, then it would all make complete sense. (g)

Good luck to all, Mike

At this stage all I want is my original investments back. Even if pips did continue, I would not reinvest in any HYIP again - too many losses
carolinem

Originally Posted by eman

I do not know why people seem to be so against what Bryan has tried to do.

In view of what happened to Freelandopps regarding the antics of the detractors of that program, principally those at Talkgold, it has been suggested in this very forum for Bryan to step into the background with any new ventures; including the proposed revival of the Pips program. I would have thought that was what he was trying to do with Barry. He is, basically, a fairly decent sort from what I have seen of him so why are people so unforgiving at his attempts at survival? Can anyone accuse him of any embezzlement?

I did not join 10x5 because I have been preoccupied elsewhere but if I had known that Bryan was involved, I would have joined with alacrity. Is it still operational, does anybody know?

Remember, BN has, since August 2004, not been able to accuse him of any wrong doing. You've got to ask yourself why not?

By contrast, a similar program, Ginsystem, which was closed sometime after Pips has reported. The Ceo has been heavily fined, his appeal has been rejected by the authorities in Singapore, imprisonment for extortion has been threatened and the impounded funds are currently being returned to punters; less the authority's expenses of course.

All fair minded people will see Mr Marsden for who he really is. The circumstances are extra-ordinary.

eman.

BM is innocent until proven guilty.

BN has been investigating since August 2005 and the case is not finished. Charges (if any) will be brought after the prosecutors office have evaluated the findings.

Dreamer you are really dreamer.
Bryan is innocent? Good joke!

eman you said:
"I do not know why people seem to be so against what Bryan has tried to do."
Yes may be he tried but anything he tried he detstroyed.
Bryan always was ego-maniac he never listened to good advices. Never.
How you think why staff leaved Bryan? Because they found Pips has no money to pay! Of coues if you haven't read these posts and don't watch Pips for more than one year, you can say you don't remember or you don't know.

How you think why haLotto failed? Because Bryan is not allowed to run any online business until investigation will be finished.
Look now we know he run another program 1-by5 and probably Meshcash - so if he is earning money why he is not paying money to Pips members? Why?
You believe in his humanitarian work? Bxxxxxt. Show me one document which prove he contributed anything from 10by5.
One day you will know that it is one big lie.
I remember how some Pipsters were attacked by loyal supporters of Bryan when they asked hard questions. I remember censorship on Pips forum. It was horrible. And now what? Now we know they were right and blind supporters were wrong.
If we will get any money back or some part of our investemnts, it will happen only thanks to BNM investigation. Only.

Yes that's true may be Bryan has good intentions may be good plan.
But he is and was very bad manger. Pips failed due to poor management. He tried with Sharon gather all power only in their hands. It was serious mistake.
He should invest heavily in profitable ventures, shares, debentures etc if he realy intended pay us 2% daily.
But nobody knows why he invented coffe house or Pips fashion or bought some real estates in dead economic zone.
Now I have only hope in BNM not Bryan.
Bryan failed us and for him its better I never will meet him personally.

Adron,please read my post again.

I stated, Innocent until proven guilty.At this stage of the investigation BM is still innocent.No charges have been brought against him.

That could well change in the future of course.

I do however agree with many of the points in your post.We can only wait as usual.