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    You guys carry on throwing hypothetical theories at each other, its all good reading I suppose, but dont forget, the atom and electron are based on a mathematical principle which again is a theoretical model since we cannot actually look at the behavior of such a system. The actual non-physical properties cannot be explained, such as magnetism, radiation, etc, etc.
    The rest of us are here sink or swim, but willing to learn if we could actually see some proven facts.

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    Hi Paddy,
    Here's a fact. The wiring instructions for GPP:

    Please Mail Cheques to:

    First Oceanic Trust Limited
    DCM Drawbridge House
    27 Old Gloucester Street
    London, WC1N - 3XX
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    Bankwire Instructions:

    Societe Generale De Gestion S.A.
    TALLINN BUSINESS BANK LIMITED
    Estonia pst 3/5 15097, TALLINN ; ESTONIA

    First Oceanic Bank - Main Page

    Now First Oceanic (both trust and bank) are on the FSA list of unlicensed entities in the UK. Neither are they listed under Somali banks in the Bankers Directory.

    And the London address is a Monomarks drop box.

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    All you have to do is read Jonathan's moniker and it tells you this is a scam. This notion that he can do what GPP is doing, and make more money at it than they can but isn't is laughable. Then you have poor Stella complaining she has too many people E-mailing her their information and by mail she can't handle it, but we are to believe they will process 100,000 applications in one month, or put another way that is 3,000+ per day. If she can't handle a few people sending her their personal information, how in the world does anyone expect them to process 3,000+ applications per day? It would be nice to know just where they mailed these documents since no address is given to do so.

    What I find even more laughable is this notion that an unknown insurance company is going to issue more pension policies in one month that the top 3 insurance companies in the world do combined. By the way, a pension insurance policy is not an off-balance sheet transaction, no matter how it is issued. It is a licensed product, and must be reported on the insurance companies balance sheet. If not they lose their license, and will be shut down. There is no appeals process. Funny how none of these policies show up on their annual reports.

    This post by Jonathan was nothing more than trying to calm everyone down when serious questions were being asked to which the cheerleaders had no reply except talking in circles. He is no more an insurance spe******t than the AFLAC Duck. I take that statement back. The AFLAC Duck knows more about insurance than Jonathan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paddyfield View Post
    You guys carry on throwing hypothetical theories at each other, its all good reading I suppose, but dont forget, the atom and electron are based on a mathematical principle which again is a theoretical model since we cannot actually look at the behavior of such a system. The actual non-physical properties cannot be explained, such as magnetism, radiation, etc, etc.
    The rest of us are here sink or swim, but willing to learn if we could actually see some proven facts.

    Cheers
    paddy

    Actually with the right equipment you can see atoms and electrons and clearly can view magnetic fields and measure radiation. Likewise, with a calculator, a brain, and even minimal experience dealing with investments you can clearly see that the model proposed by GPP doesn't work mathematically or make sense from an investment standpoint.

    "Jonathan" may believe that he is the only one who can add, subtract, and multiply and has any experience with actuarial tables and doing return calculations, but he's certainly not. He may be right as far as most of those joining this program since anyone else who actually does have knowledge in these areas can quickly see that this will not work mathematically or from an investment standpoint and is not "legal" as has been stated and wouldn't fall for it.

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    Also, it appears that the "John" replying is John (future4me.com). Given his past record regarding matters in this area, beyond his ability to post in an authoritative and reassuring manner, his abilty to correctly assess such opportunities leaves much to be desired to say the least.

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    To all who celebrate it, HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

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    Who is this Jonathon guy in South Croydon? I live VERY close to South Croydon... in fact, I used to live IN South Croydon... wonder if he'd like to meet up for a chat about where he sees it all going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nej View Post
    Who is this Jonathon guy in South Croydon? I live VERY close to South Croydon... in fact, I used to live IN South Croydon... wonder if he'd like to meet up for a chat about where he sees it all going.
    Think you should PM him and set up a meeting. His response would speak volumes, more than what he has said in his posts.

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    Does GPP still accept new members? If yes I will invest 30 EUR asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flora View Post
    Does GPP still accept new members? If yes I will invest 30 EUR asap.
    I doubt if they would turn you down. I'm sure they will find a way to take your money, even if the program was closed. They never turn down money. Getting it back is another story.

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    Flora posted the same question on TG and was answered ! Somebody is trying to boost confidence in GPP.

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