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    I'll check on that. It might take a couple of days though. I get my information from an individual in Germany that has first hand knowledge of all the players. However, he is not involved with the programs other than being a conduit to provide us information and being a member himself. I'll post it here as soon as I can.
    http://www.freewebs.com/reversepension/

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    In the real financial world there are secret deals but not in the way that you think and this is evidenced by what’s going on in world banking where debt has been packaged up and sold on as low risk to bank subsidiaries set up through hedge funds to make money for those involved through commissions and fees, however this has not been totally transparent and now they are about the catch a cold

    The world banks are in crisis caused by the sub prime repackaging into asset backed paper and $500b of this being unaccounted for so now banks are refusing to lend to each other and in the UK the bank of England has had to step in for the first time since 1998 to rescue Northern Rock who are the UKs 5th largest mortgage lender and in the US the largest Countrywide Financial Corp are announcing jobs cuts of 25% of their workforce
    UK
    FT.com / Companies / Financial services - Bank of England to rescue UK lender
    China
    Bank of China admits sub-prime exposure | | Guardian Unlimited Business
    Germany
    Germany to sell stake in subprime-hit bank IKB - Yahoo! News UK
    Europe
    FT Alphaville » Blog Archive » CDS report: Subprime mess hits European banks, spooks market
    US
    Subprime mortgage lender Countrywide could slash 12,000 jobs - Sep. 7, 2007
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    US Subprime Crisis: Bailing Out the World's Banks - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

    Interestingly Countrywide in the US are also on the US treasury bill primary dealers….these are the guys( according to the private placement scams)that buy bills using leveraged funds and trade them at no risk to create billions for the “rich to get richer” ……so why they felt the need to over expose them selves in subprime asset back paper is beyond me……the point of this is……

    On the one hand we have the secret world of banking where the rich get richer using methods not normally known to the common man that use dubious websites and MLM methods to make this available only to folk with an e-account.

    And on the other hand the public world of banking where some banks are technically insolvent and require central bank intervention these same dealers have shunned the no risk high leverage treasury bill trades or the no risk RPPs scheme in favour of trading asset backed paper rated as low risk to the tune of $bs leaving a $500b hole in unsecured debt…

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    You are welcome. I'll try to get that information for you. I might take a couple of days though. I get my information from an individual in Germany who has first hand knowledge of all the players. I'll post it here as soon as I can.
    http://www.freewebs.com/reversepension/

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    In Lichtenstein it is known as a Trust Enterprise, broadly the equivalent of an offshore IBC. The Trust Enterprise is set up by a Trustor (settlor) through a Deed of Trust which is equivalent to Articles of Association, and must specify the name and purposes of the Enterprise, the identity of the trustees, the composition of the trust fund, and (if the purposes are commercial) the identity of the auditors. But, as with an IBC, 'commercial' does not include asset management or holding operations. The Deed of Trust is filed with the Registrar of Trusts. The participants in a Trust Enterprise are largely shielded from creditors of the Enterprise.

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    There is aways someone who knows someone.....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzyfix View Post
    I'll check on that. It might take a couple of days though. I get my information from an individual in Germany that has first hand knowledge of all the players. However, he is not involved with the programs other than being a conduit to provide us information and being a member himself. I'll post it here as soon as I can.
    I guess the question here would be.....are you a member of GPP....or maybe I should say "were you a member"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owen Platt View Post
    In Lichtenstein it is known as a Trust Enterprise, broadly the equivalent of an offshore IBC. The Trust Enterprise is set up by a Trustor (settlor) through a Deed of Trust which is equivalent to Articles of Association, and must specify the name and purposes of the Enterprise, the identity of the trustees, the composition of the trust fund, and (if the purposes are commercial) the identity of the auditors. But, as with an IBC, 'commercial' does not include asset management or holding operations. The Deed of Trust is filed with the Registrar of Trusts. The participants in a Trust Enterprise are largely shielded from creditors of the Enterprise.
    Good information, Owen, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulM View Post
    Hello Berty,



    Now the only program that I know of which trades in TEPs and has a relation to RPPs, is Imperia Invest, which I happen to be a member of!
    Well I can tell you this Program is not, I repeat not an RPP, since its only mission in life is to trade in TEPs with funds that it "loans" to each one of us individually. From this trading, each member gets to earn 1.2% daily, compounded for 6 months when paperwork and payout will take place to each one of us!
    (eg, I am one month into the trade and have deligently received my 1.2% daily - on trade days - in the last 4 weeks or so!)


    PaulM
    I am in this program .How do you know if you are in on the trade

    Steve

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    I didn't like to query this I am too polite...I just quote facts....

    "The truth will set you free"

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    Quote Originally Posted by berty View Post
    In the real financial world there are secret deals but not in the way that you think and this is evidenced by what’s going on in world banking where debt has been packaged up and sold on as low risk to bank subsidiaries set up through hedge funds to make money for those involved through commissions and fees, however this has not been totally transparent and now they are about the catch a cold

    The world banks are in crisis caused by the sub prime repackaging into asset backed paper and $500b of this being unaccounted for so now banks are refusing to lend to each other and in the UK the bank of England has had to step in for the first time since 1998 to rescue Northern Rock who are the UKs 5th largest mortgage lender and in the US the largest Countrywide Financial Corp are announcing jobs cuts of 25% of their workforce
    UK
    FT.com / Companies / Financial services - Bank of England to rescue UK lender
    China
    Bank of China admits sub-prime exposure | | Guardian Unlimited Business
    Germany
    Germany to sell stake in subprime-hit bank IKB - Yahoo! News UK
    Europe
    FT Alphaville » Blog Archive » CDS report: Subprime mess hits European banks, spooks market
    US
    Subprime mortgage lender Countrywide could slash 12,000 jobs - Sep. 7, 2007
    *********
    US Subprime Crisis: Bailing Out the World's Banks - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

    Interestingly Countrywide in the US are also on the US treasury bill primary dealers….these are the guys( according to the private placement scams)that buy bills using leveraged funds and trade them at no risk to create billions for the “rich to get richer” ……so why they felt the need to over expose them selves in subprime asset back paper is beyond me……the point of this is……

    On the one hand we have the secret world of banking where the rich get richer using methods not normally known to the common man that use dubious websites and MLM methods to make this available only to folk with an e-account.

    And on the other hand the public world of banking where some banks are technically insolvent and require central bank intervention these same dealers have shunned the no risk high leverage treasury bill trades or the no risk RPPs scheme in favour of trading asset backed paper rated as low risk to the tune of $bs leaving a $500b hole in unsecured debt…

    Hi Berty, Well I have been wondering if these secret deals of the rich would keep working if we have this financial collapse they are talking about. What do you think? Not sure if I am clear on my question, but any input appreciated. Good post though, Berty.

    moncheri~*

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