Thread: Luke's Integrity Questionable

Nelson, are you this impatient because other people you introduced to this opportunity are on your back for a refund? In fact,is it all their money and none of yours?

The only answer is to resolve this matter privately with Luke.Your actions may well result in a total failure of the programme and no refunds being made at all. Is that what you really want?

Whilst I accept that there have been delays,a public forum is no place for this sort of posting.Plently have offered help,please take them up on it.

It is of my opinion, that whatever is created, said & done and participated by all involved... it is a choice by ALL involved and hence, the cause or consequences, are to be faced by all involved when the time to answer is due.

What Luke has ventured upon and all those that willingly or unwillingly jumped the bandwagon in full confidence & trust, did so as a choice all had believed in him and were willing to commit oneself, waiting or wanting a sooner refund or payout irrespective of the outcome that eventually was expected to materialize.

I have allowed the thread to stay and to allow a dialog, next to the Forum of Luke's, to pursue without ROLClub physically getting involved as it is not a ROLClub idea or concept or program we created.

What is now and still is pursued, is again left to every individual involved, to resolve amicably and in the best harmonious way possible.

We are not in the position to verify either side's credibility as long as the suppository payouts were not carried out for whatever reasons or circumstances and neither will we speculate the reasons behind it.... only Luke has and knows them and only Luke will have to bear for his actions...

I wish him all the best in solving whatever there is to be resolved for the interest of all involved and who still depends on his wise actions, overdue or otherwise.

YB.

Originally Posted by astro2

Look, Why Should I Continue To Write To Him???? He Already Knew Me And I'm Not Going To Send Him Another Email Asking For Refund Because I Have Already Done That So Many Times, He Knows My Username!!!! Many Months Ago We Communicated Via Email And When I Started To Ask For A Refund No Respond From Him Till Now.

I Destroy The Program??? Look At Him What He Has Done Here For All Of Us... Telling People About All The Good News But What Happened Now??? Are You Telling Me Now That What Luke Has Done Is Correct??? To Give Fake Hope And All Excuses Is Correct???? What A Bull Are You Talking To Yourself???? No Money To Pay Rental???? Yet You Trust Him????

Nelson Lee Has Contacted Him And Questioned Him On Several Issues Not Related To Nda He Can't Even Answered That Correctly. All He Mentioned Was Nda, Nda And Nda. Nda Is A Secret Kept Between The Trader And Luke Where He's Not Allowed To Mention Which Party Involved. That's All And That Got Nothing To Do With The Process.

What Happened To The Email He Mentioned He Will Send Out On 15 Nov 07???? What Is The Meaning Of Good News And We Are On The Right Track???? What Is The News He Mentioned We Are So Close To Our Goal???? Is This What You Call Goal???? I'm Not Asking For Trouble But I'm Asking Him To Tell Us The Truth Not 'good News' But Turned Out To Be A Bad News.

All I Expect From Him Is To Make Things Clear Not Contradiction Which He's So Good At It. Do You Know With What He Has Said To All The Members Regarding The 900% Payout X 10 Months Have Destroyed How Many Lives??? You People Are Not Asking For Truth You Are Just Supporting More Scams Like This. Wake Up You People, If I Don't See My Refund Or With An Explanation As To Why Money Not Paid Then You Will Know What I Will Do.

The Fbi Is Waiting For Me To Press Charges Officially Then We Will See The Whole Show! Is This Too Much To Ask For An Explanation???? If I Have Taken Your Money And Telling You Of All The Good News Like Luke What Would Be Your Reaction??? Still Defending Me???

I Was In The Debenture For More Than 5 Years And I Can't Afford The Money I Lose To Luke, If The Money Is Loss Then Let Us Know Don't Make People Wait For It. It Has Been 2 Years Now And No News No Performance. Is This What You Call Integrity????? Where Are We Standing Now??????

Well Till End Of This Month If I Did Not Have My Refund I Would Expect An Explanation. If I Don't Have These 2 Bear In Mind I Will March My Way To Press Official Charges On Luke.

Moderator : Please Forgive Me For This As I Can't Endure His 'truth'

What Debenture are you talking about? I think you got the wrong program buddy! Get your facts straight instead of blowing smoke.

By the way, you still haven't pm'd me your username. SEVERAL of us are all willing to HELP and yet you don't respond. What kind of sh*t is that? Be a man (or woman) and pm one of us so we can help you out and make you happy.

Are you that scared or unintelligent to not even read our posts asking for a pm and you don't do it. Come on, man, we are waiting. Luke doesn't know your username; don't lie.

Originally Posted by YogiBrood

It is of my opinion, that whatever is created, said & done and participated by all involved... it is a choice by ALL involved and hence, the cause or consequences, are to be faced by all involved when the time to answer is due.

What Luke has ventured upon and all those that willingly or unwillingly jumped the bandwagon in full confidence & trust, did so as a choice all had believed in him and were willing to commit oneself, waiting or wanting a sooner refund or payout irrespective of the outcome that eventually was expected to materialize.

I have allowed the thread to stay and to allow a dialog, next to the Forum of Luke's, to pursue without ROLClub physically getting involved as it is not a ROLClub idea or concept or program we created.

What is now and still is pursued, is again left to every individual involved, to resolve amicably and in the best harmonious way possible.

We are not in the position to verify either side's credibility as long as the suppository payouts were not carried out for whatever reasons or circumstances and neither will we speculate the reasons behind it.... only Luke has and knows them and only Luke will have to bear for his actions...

I wish him all the best in solving whatever there is to be resolved for the interest of all involved and who still depends on his wise actions, overdue or otherwise.

YB.

Hi Yogi,

Why not at least let Luke know the IP and email address of astro2? From there, things will be resolved and you don't have to read this kind of bickering and defending on the forum. It helps everyone including you.
You can pm one of us if you can't reach Luke.

Astro2

Your postings make no sense to me. You say you want a refund and Luke says that he is willing to give you a refund. But you don't want to give Luke(or any one else that has offered to help) your user name so Luke can refund you. Luke says that he does not know who you are, so how can he refund you without that information?

If you are in that program, then you signed a NDA, which you have broke many times by posting on this forum and/or other forums. If you make a formal complaint to the FBI, do you think that they won't want your real name? If you give them your real name, then at some point Luke will have it because he has a right to know who his accuser is. If I were Luke(and I'm not Luke) I would go after you big time for breaking the NDA, cause I am sure that Luke has access or copies of your rantings on this forum at least. So you might be able to bring down that program, but I think you are opening yourself up to a very large lawsuit.

If you are not in that program, then I don't see much of a leg to stand on.

Or as GOSUB says, maybe you just want to be a trouble maker and like to hear yourself rant on here.

This all could be solved quite easily if you would contact Luke or one of the people here that has offered to help and give them your user name so Luke would know who to refund. It is all up to you.

Of course this is my opinion

Gary

Whether NelsonLee is indeed Astro2 or whoever these two characters had been all along and posing with disgruntled infuriation for their dissatisfaction, they claim to have done what was done but repeatedly been given the wall for a response and so was their/his claim all these while.

Luke brudder, PM me so I know you are following this as well and we shall address the issue according to members here who have vouched your willingness to do so, to REFUND these or to this dude his dues...

I shall wait for your PM in doing what is necessary to uphold your credibility as members have expressed your readiness to do so with the required details.

Happy Easter weekend and I'll be back soon.

YB.

Hi All

Whatever It Is I Want To Thank All The Members That Want To Help Me Here. To Those Who Scolded Me In Pm, I Don't Blame You But One Thing I Want To Get It Right, My Complaints Went In Here Few Months Back And I Have Given My Details To That Person, No Action. I Sent Emails To Luke On Other Matters It Took Few Days For Him To Reply And When I Sent A Refund Emails To Him No Reply. Members Here Want To Help Me And Some Even Want To Buy My Account? Don't Be Silly, You Will Loss More Money If You Pay Me.

Believe It Or Not I'm Not Nelson Lee If You Want To Think I'm Nl Then Is Fine For Me. I Don't Have To Explain Why This Ip Address Came From More Than 1 User. To Those Who Stayed In Malaysia Then You Will Know Why.

This Is Between Me And Luke And Whether You People Like It Or Not I Demand An Explanation. Luke Knows Me And He Even Drop Me An Email Few Weeks Back Telling Me He Will Only Do Refund If Members Want To Buy My Account. I Know Some Members Want To Buy My Account Buy I Don't Want Your Money, I Want My Money And I Also Know Not Many Of You Can Afford To Buy My Account As I Have A Huge Sum In It.

Let's Ask Yourself This Question.

Out Of 22 Emails From Luke Telling Us We Are At The Right Track And Everything Is Moving Forward. Let's See What He Has Promised

Is He Telling Us The Truth?
Why Are They So Many Troubles In The Trade?
What Trade Do He Went In?
Who Is Mr.t?
Luke Mentioned Mr.t Is A Traders But Why A Trader Can Have So Many Problems?
Where Is The 900% Return He Promised To Enter 2 Years Ago?
Luke Promises An Update From Mr.t In February, End Of March Is Around The Corner Where Is The Trade Or Update?
Mr.t Mentioned He Will Get The Fund Available For Us In November But Where Is The Money Now?
2 Years Ago Luke Mentioned That The 1st And 2nd Payment Will Go To The Chinese Foundation And 3rd Payment To Us. Now My Question Is Where Is Our 3rd Payment? Where Is The Money Gone? Is There Really A Trade Or Luke Himself Is Too Naive Or Stupid Till He Didn't Read The Contract And Signed His Name There.
He Mentioned That He Has 2nd Trade For Us But Where Is The Trade And Return?
He Mentioned That He Are In 2nd Trade But Where It Is Now?

Ladies And Gentlemen, Why Do We Allowed This To Happen, Why Can't We Ask Question In His Forum? One Of The Member Pmed Another Member On Some Issues And Later He Was Banned With No Refund.

I Even Mentioned To Him If He Loss The Money Just Tell Us Because We Know Making Investment Involved Great Risk But Why He Kept Telling Us The Truth And At The End Of The Day Nothing Happened????

Is Luke Making Us Drive Around The Circle For Nothing And Ended Up With Disappointment Over And Over Again? When Are We Going To See Our Money? If Luke Explained The Situation To Us This Will Never Happened And I Would Not Confront Him.

Now, Let's Make It Clear Why Didn't He Tell Us What Really Happens, If He Signed An Nda What Is The Title Of The Nda He Signed. Nda Is An Agreement Signed Where No Mention Of Any Parties Involved. I Have Been In Debenture And We Are Allowed To Explain The Process Not The Party Involve. So, No Such Thing As Nda By Not Telling Us What Really Happens.

I Will Stand Up For This And My Line Is Simple, If No Refund Please Send Us An Email As To What Is Happening. Is This Too Much To Ask?

No Refund No Explanation You Will See My Case With The Relevant Authorities. On Another Matter I Don't Have To Prove To Anyone About My Funds Or Involvement. In Order To See My Involvement Will Be End Of This Month With The Relevant Authority.

Luke Has My Info And He Knows Me, We Used To Communicate Via Email. He's Lying That He Doesn't Know Me. Want To Know My Username In The Program? You Will See Me Soon.... All Of You Will Know Who I Am When The Case Is Officially Pressed.

astro2,

You obviously like to read yourself in print because there is no other reason for you to be posting such irrelevant nonsense, I have been around the net for a long time and have extensive experience in law enforcement and your threats of reporting this incident to any authority is pure nonsense and shows just how inexperienced and naive you really are. One complaint from someone will not instigate an investigation by any agency. Maybe 200-300 people complaining would get their attention but ONE person would not even generate a second look.

Your refusal to identify yourself here only goes to show that you are not an actual member of the group just someone who is being fed by someone who probably does not even know you are having this childish fit.

So grow up, identify yourself if you can, get your refund and move on. Your ranting here will not change what Luke is doing or have any affect on what will happen one way or the other and if you think it will it only goes to show how dellusional you really are.

Personally I would just ignore you completely, people like yourself are nothing more than a nuisance in the long run, entertaining for a while but eventually the babble becomes so ridiculous everyone despises you even those not involved.

There are very few people with "huge amounts" invovled and you are definetly not one of them.

Al

You can say anything you want about me. I have no investment amount with Luke. Alright, let's do it that way... if no respond from Luke you will see what will happen. The authority will take action if a group of people complains?? Well, we will see... Let me prove who is right... you know your legal game here??? Let me tell you something if the authority is no concern here they wouldn't send me an email asking me for more info PLUS asking me to forward all emails from Luke to them. If the authority has no interest in cyber crime they wouldn't send me an email asking for info.... let's see. What will happen if I invite the authority to visit this forum and in this page? Know your facts right please... I have every facts here and let's see if they will investigate.

For your info, all I have to do right now is to send him the proof I have sent money to Luke... Once that copy is sent we will have a show time.... You can choose not to trust me but end of the month is round the corner, you will have a little patient to see the show.

You don't seem to be the sharpest tool in the box, so I'll try to keep this simple.

You want a refund, right? If you PM me your username, I GUARANTEE that you will speedily get your refund. I can't make it more simple than that.

Your refusal or inability to send me your username speaks volumes. There are a few people who would personally deliver your refund to you in KL. There are a lot of people who would like to meet with you personally. Maybe it's time to seek you out. I would be intrigued to see what kind of twisted person you are, or would be.

Edit: Just checked todays messages. Are you satisfied Astro/Nelsonlee?