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    probably ignorance on my part but i don't see why it's so hard (for savvy snoops) to check these folks out. beyond whois etc...
    everyone here is clueless. besides signing up in a state of anxietal bliss, it's just odd that frauds have so much leeway to do this over and over.
    and it's not much of a comfort when a huge percentage of ads here have lead to scams. um, wasn't this whole thing built due to a scam!?

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    Talking legal schmegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by livefree View Post
    Good post! I am not in this program and don't know if it is legal or been done before. Just because lots of people are signing up and getting close to target amount does not really mean anything.

    How do we know that this doesn't follow same pattern as many before in that after money is collected, then delay and delay and then the BIG PAYOUT never comes. Sound familiar?

    All I am saying is to be careful. You know the old saying " IF it was legal and worked, then everybody would be dong it. "
    legal? who said anything about legal? remember 12daily? it wasnt exactly legal, so to speak, but not illegal? this one sorta exists in a legal gray area, as far as i know, much like online gambling .... especially since this is an international deal... so, hey, if you wanna take a chance , go for it, if not, move on. but for only onetime 30 euro, u'd be crazy not to give it a whirl...
    I JUST WANNA ROCK! (HAVE YOU SEEN THE BRIDGE? WHERES THAT CONFOUNDED BRIDGE?)

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    Your perception on the said program merits caution that members must reconsider...even if it is simply a pointer....for their own DD.

    Some can afford but most CANNOT...even if its a mere 30 bucks but with more weeks and months stretched, wisdom and scrutinity increases and even though I had my share added to the collection pail, I am neither optimistic now nor pessimistic then but the tell-tale signs are turning green and mossy....


    It is the psychology and smallish sum here that is carefully preying on many with no critical mindset to question within the first 24 hours and....WHAM...!!!

    Got BAIT and it is too late by then...

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    I spent all day wagering in my mind if this would be a profitable investment for me or not. My brain is saying something to me different of what my body language is about G.P.P. . Body says to me move now..brain says a waste of time and money.
    After all the exhausting research I did on G.P.P. today, I did find one very similar to G.P.P. and it sounds more reasonable and the people behind the program sound much more educated in the Pension field of investing.

    I found some interesting stuff on this website people may want to take a look at:

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    that guy has GPP in his list. so (imo) he's probably/ultimately in the same boat we are. got an email from a GPP member who said that Every Similar program has'nt come through. but they, like many, signed up cause it's a small fee.
    he also mentions feederfund. now this may've been ok. but the very month i joined it's been dead. feeder has about 6 or 7 programs they teamed up with. presently they are all doing lousy. right before i joined it was generally 14% a month or better. now it's like 1% - for all of them. and the fund i'm in - fxig - has been at 0% for 4 months. and i can't even withdraw my principle as they're having problems with fxig's "negative equity". from my angle, you just can't win with these things.
    but i'm glad the odd timing has (relatively) stopped. huh, you ask? indeed, there was a stretch where every program i joined and held, vanished the Very day i tried to make a withdrawal. it was SO exact that i thought i was being monitored in some way!

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    Antjesz, you are great, a thing, that no one was thinking about!



    Quote Originally Posted by antjesz2 View Post
    Those of you who know me know that I am a very positive and optimistic person. But I cannot deny that I'm a lawyer. And I don't trust this one!

    I understand that the 30 EUROs have to be paid immediately? That means that by the time they reach the 100,000 members they'll have already received 3,000,000 EUROs in advance without delivering anything. Probably they'll be gone with the wind as soon as they've reached the 100,000.

    But even if they don't, the financial risk you are running is much higher than only those 30 EUROs that you are thinking of. What's even more serious is that those who signup will have to authorize them to borrow money on their personal insurance policy. The idea behind this system is that the loan will be used to pay off the premium and fees in advance, and the rest will be paid out to you.

    Okay - I haven't seen the contracts. MAYBE everything IS safe for you. I know that this system works, and that it can be done - theoretically...

    But the big question is if they are really honest with you. What if they don't pay off the premium as promised? What if they take all the money and run? Then maybe it's YOU who are liable for the insurance premium, depending on the contracts, plus eventual interest, and you are going to pay it off all the rest of your life without ever seeing a dime!

    No thank you!
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    i actually remember someone saying this about pips 2 years ago. that the investors might be hauled in with the, scammers.

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    Still boomin'!!

    Rapidly approaching the halfway mark!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by antjesz2 View Post
    Those of you who know me know that I am a very positive and optimistic person. But I cannot deny that I'm a lawyer. And I don't trust this one!

    I understand that the 30 EUROs have to be paid immediately? That means that by the time they reach the 100,000 members they'll have already received 3,000,000 EUROs in advance without delivering anything. Probably they'll be gone with the wind as soon as they've reached the 100,000.

    But even if they don't, the financial risk you are running is much higher than only those 30 EUROs that you are thinking of. What's even more serious is that those who signup will have to authorize them to borrow money on their personal insurance policy. The idea behind this system is that the loan will be used to pay off the premium and fees in advance, and the rest will be paid out to you.

    Okay - I haven't seen the contracts. MAYBE everything IS safe for you. I know that this system works, and that it can be done - theoretically...

    But the big question is if they are really honest with you. What if they don't pay off the premium as promised? What if they take all the money and run? Then maybe it's YOU who are liable for the insurance premium, depending on the contracts, plus eventual interest, and you are going to pay it off all the rest of your life without ever seeing a dime!

    No thank you!
    Thanks. Wich means we have to keep in touch and let someone see the contract before we sign it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLC View Post
    Don't throw away your money!
    Is that a warning to heed or an advise with an underlying deflection instead to an unknown source???

    Antjes is right, from any angle you debate on the issue. I have added to create two accounts myself with an assumption that it comes clear and hopefully, yes.. HOPEFULLY, they too but that's the 64K q'n to date and beyond by that time when it promise to deliver.

    30 bucks is negligible, for those who can afford and risk another few dinner's worth on any ambiguous program that promises the world but has little to substantiate unlike a menu, a waiter hands to you and is damn certain to stand by whats in it or risk losing his precious tip from your custom.


    But 30 bucks from one soul is just a number, a statistic if you like. With 30 bucks multiplied by several tens of thousands does fetch considerably for an individual or a small handful of mean operators or ferociously enterprising for a couple running this masquerade... who knows, just how many or just two persons is actually making us all believe they WANT US ALL to believe their promised and unbelievable potential that does bear the hallmarks of a grandioos SCAM in the making???

    I honestly DON'T KNOW and thats why, I can afford to add or throw in 60 bucks and muse myself in the waiting... how long it takes? Well, it isn't bothering me much but I am equally concern for those that has a hard time recovering when they discover it was all a 30 second dream that was supposedly meant to deliver more than just a Frog's kiss!!!!

    Like Antjes had mention: She does NOT TRUST this from a lawyer's critical observation and point of view... it is good to have one around to be a pole to lean on in cases like this.



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