Thread: Possible Scam

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Subject: Europe Trade Ltd Another Scam from the Owners of InvestDot and VascoInvestment
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:30:52 -0400


Last week on July 25th, I revealed about the Europe Trade Ltd scam.
Here I'll reveal more about them. It's possible that Europe Trade Ltd is
belongs to the same owner of the previous scam; InvestDot and
VascoInvestment.

Both InvestDot and VascoInvestment claimed that they were registered
companies. InvestDot's registered company known as Trade Agents (UK) Ltd
while VascoInvestment's registered company called UK Finance & Trade
LLP

When I searched for company details on Companies-House, Europe Trade
(UK) Ltd, Trade Agents (UK) LLP and UK Finance & Trade LLP all
incorporated under the same address which is SUITE 12, 2ND FLOOR, QUEENS HOUSE,
180 TOTTENHAM COURT ROAD, LONDON W1T 7PD (however UK Finance & Trade
LLP is on 3rd Floor);

1) Name & Registered Office:
EUROPE TRADE (UK) LTD
SUITE 12, 2ND FLOOR, QUEENS
HOUSE, 180 TOTTENHAM COURT ROAD
LONDON
W1T 7PD
Company No. 05070895
Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 11/03/2004
Country of Origin: United Kingdom

2) Name & Registered Office:
TRADE AGENTS (UK) LLP (InvestDot)
SUITE 12
2ND FLOOR QUEENS HOUSE
180 TOTTENHAM COURT ROAD
LONDON W1T 7PD
Company No. OC317667
Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 07/02/2006
Country of Origin: United Kingdom

3) Name & Registered Office:
UK FINANCE & TRADE LLP (VascoInvestment)
SUITE 12 3RD FLOOR
QUEENS HOUSE
180 TOTTENHAM COURT ROAD
LONDON W1T 7PD
Company No. OC315007
Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 02/09/2005

Furthermore, when I searched for 'whois' information, again the domain
names' Registrant for Europe Trade and InvestDot are at the same
address but VascoInvestment falsely registered under VascoInvestment Group
which doesn't exist instead of UK Finance & Trade LLP and of course false
address too.

1) Domain Name.......... eutradeltd.com
Creation Date........ 2005-12-27
Registration Date.... 2005-12-27
Expiry Date.......... 2010-12-27
Organisation Name.... Europe Trade (UK) Ltd
Organisation Address. 180 Tottenham Court Road
Organisation Address. Suite 12
Organisation Address. London
Organisation Address. W1T 7PD
Organisation Address. London
Organisation Address. GREAT BRITAIN (UK)

2) Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (Domain Name Registration, Domain Transfers. Your domain name search starts here.)
Domain Name: INVESTDOT.COM
Created on: 27-Jan-04
Expires on: 01-Feb-08
Last Updated on: 11-May-06

Administrative Contact:
ROBERTSHAW, JOHN [email protected]
TRADE AGENTS (UK) LLP
180 TOTTENHAM COURT ROAD
2ND FLOOR QUEENS HOUSE
LONDON, W1T 7PD
United Kingdom
Tel - 02030700093 Fax - 02030700093

3) domain: vascoinvestment.com
origin-c: JOCO-1012256
owner: Mark David Liebman
organization: VASCOINVESTMENT GROUP
email: [email protected]
address: London, W1
city: London
state: --
postal-code: W1B 2HJ
country: GB
phone: +44 0161 408 2280
Updated Date: 28-Mar-2006
Creation Date: 25-Jun-1998
Expiration Date: 24-Jun-2008

All the companies have similar 'Trade' and 'UK' name. All the programs
also have similar small daily interest plans and 180days locked-in
period with compound option. It's too suspicious that these programs appear
one by one, after one another. Upon disappearing of VascoInvestment,
InvestDot has risen. Then after InvestDot gone, this new Europe Trade Ltd
is appears.

I think Europe Trade Ltd, InvestDot and VascoInvestment are not the
only scam that they're running. There must be other programs running by
these same scammers.

Here is the extract from the 'news' section on Europe Trade Ltd's site
"It seems that an unknown individual is desperately trying to blackmail
our company :: bla bla bla :: Our investors are receiving their profits
as usual according with their payout plans."

Very funny! We neither blackmailed nor threatened them. We're an
online HYIP Magazine and not a HYI Program. Obviously, Europe Trade Ltd is
not our competitor, so why should we slander their program without any
reason? It's ridiculous. Our mission is to provide honest and latest
information for our readers.

The fake posts are still flooding the Europe Trade Ltd's thread on
public forums. The admin accused someone else did it in order to destroy
their program. Give me a break! Why would they targeting this new, small
program while there're other big threats and famous programs like
fx-experts and offshoreclub. I think most of the fake posts are just 'dirty
trick' from the admin themselves.

The admin has argued our first news we wrote about their scam.
However, the only argument she said was "We're paying. Give me the name of
member who didn't get pay". Yeah right! Of course in the early launched
you're paying 'mostly' everybody in order to gain popularity and they're
only withdraw small amount right? When they gain popularity, members
making large deposit and after that, surely the problem will arise.

How about other issues that we brought up? Why no response from the
admin about other issues? Unfortunately, the reply from e-gold as why
Europe Trade Ltd's previous e-gold account is placed a blocked on it is
unsatisfactorily. According to e-gold, the account is blocked due to
various reasons and they refused to elaborate more as they said it's
confidential. I believe Europe Trade Ltd is panicking now and will do
anything to defend their program. Of course they don't want to lose as they
spend so much on advertising. I noticed they purchased top position
banner everywhere. Their 'aggressive promotions' are just like their
previous scam; InvestDot and VascoInvestment.



A quote from Ecommerce Journal's Editor, Joseph Markin:

"The DDoS attacks have started last week on Thursday and have been
going all week long. Currently, we were able to cease this attack. The
attack has been created by Europe Trade LTD and was eating up bandwidth
up to 4Gigabits per second, that's 40 times more than any regular DDoS.

Eutradeltd.com is company that we've caught on scam (changing e-gold
accounts, fake posts, fake customer support etc). On behalf of EJ's
administration, I'd like to clearly state that we SHALL continue our
FURTHER INVESTIGATION of Europe Trade Ltd scam. We've predicted Solid
Investment's Scam 1.5 months prior they ran away with investors money (as per
our articles of May and June 2006).

So we'll do anything we can to prevent our readers from doing any kind
of business with these scammers. Stay away from Europe Trade LTD, read
our magazine daily and INVEST SAFELY! "



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Excellent research and post, thanks, this is what we need more of to expose all these scam HYIP's.

Good luck to all, Mike