Thread: Greenzap Warning - Intabill/Strongbucks - check your bank accounts if you signed up

I was able to log in my account today on Greenzap website. Print all personal account info if you can. Be on the safe side.

I am one of the Geen Zap member's that had One fraudulent check of $99.75 withdraw by Intabill, in June.
And 2 more withdraw from Mazumah in August ,and September $39.90 each.
3 more check ,1 in September, of $19.95
, 2 in October, of $59.85 and $39.85.
I sent an email to Mipayment.biz trying to get back all my money.
So far I received 2 check from Mazumah of $39.90.
I had to close my checking account.
I will keep emailing them until I have all my money back from them.

You bank should return all funds that were withdrawn fraudulently from your account the same day that you inform them that the charges were infact fraudulent. Normally the bank recommend that you close the account and open a new one immediately but they must return all funds to your account. It's the law.

I paid them over $1000 and haven't gotten anything they promised back.
I can't believe how stupid I was.
Pama

I seem to remember Rodney and Yogi working closely with neno on greenzap. Maybe they care to give some insight on the person that convinced the forum owner to make him an admin?

I also seem to remember deletions of warnings from "naysayers" by certain a admin here and banning of members that spoke ill of gz.

Oh well, I guess that doesn't matter much, stopping the beeding out of your accounts is a more important matter.

The way I see it, you have two people to go after. Westmoreland and the person/team that convinced you to join (and profitted from you joining) desp1te warnings all over the net that westmoreland was not to be trusted.

Here are some general tips for those having money taken out of their accounts by "Mazumah" "Strongbucks" "intabill" and "mipayment.biz"

1. Check your bank statements going back to the end of the year looking for withdrawls/drafts to your account under "Intabill" "Strongbucks" or "Mipayment.biz"

2. file a complaint with the san diego BBB. They have a long history of complaints against Greenzap/Mazumah.

3. close your bank account and get a new one. Bad people now have your account info most probably.

4. contact the San Diego FBI
FBI - San Diego, Resident Agencies

Here's some information for you to use to report GZ, et al:

The San Diego office of the FBI has a special web page with reporting instructions for victims here:

FBI - San Diego, Resident Agencies

I would also mail them this information, as well as filing an online complaint using the link above. Some of this information will also be needed for the online complaint:

1- Provide your name, telephone number, address, and the total amount of withdrawals that were not authorized.

2- Complete and provide a notarized copy of an Affidavit of Unauthorized Paper Debit documenting the loss from your bank. To secure an affidavit, go to the bank and request the bank to complete an Affidavit of Unauthorized Paper Debit, and ask them to notarize the document.

3- Provide a copy of the unauthorized withdrawal, it should look like a paper check. To obtain a copy, ask your bank to provide you with a copy of the withdrawal.

4- Provide the date(s) of the unauthorized withdrawal(s).

5- Provide a copy of your bank statement reflecting the unauthorized withdrawal. This is needed to determine and prove in court who withdrew money from your account..

6- Provide a short narrative explaining, who you believe debited your bank account, and how you became involved with the individual/company that accessed your account.

Please mail your responses to:
Federal Bureau of Investigation
c/o Special Agent Wade Dudley
9797 Aero Drive
San Diego, California 92123"

Hope this this helps.

Hi everyone,
I just found this spot for GZ. Well, about three months ago I found a $99.98 and I am a pain in the a.. so I checked it out real careful with my check book and bank statements .. both on line and off. Called up my bank and they gave it back to me. Also made sure they put a no draft on anything that came in without my personal sayso. This works very well and you do not have to change your account. Hope this helps some of you as well.

Originally Posted by frees40k

Hi everyone,
I just found this spot for GZ. Well, about three months ago I found a $99.98 and I am a pain in the a.. so I checked it out real careful with my check book and bank statements .. both on line and off. Called up my bank and they gave it back to me. Also made sure they put a no draft on anything that came in without my personal sayso. This works very well and you do not have to change your account. Hope this helps some of you as well.

That's a very good move making it a decisive "HALT" to any further attempts by the "grasshoppers" zapping ex-GZ members illegally! Glad you succeed and post more on this encouraging news to curb the ongoing malpractices albeit by Mazumah and/or Westmoreland and Associates.

Originally Posted by tomd

I seem to remember Rodney and Yogi working closely with neno on greenzap. Maybe they care to give some insight on the person that convinced the forum owner to make him an admin?

4. contact the San Diego FBI
FBI - San Diego, Resident Agencies

At the height of the GZ introduction, like with any online programs, one always get involve with a positive mindset to further the cause, in the belief that it is the right and only way to be part of it. If you want to see it fail and be negative from the very instance on participation, you should not join in the 1st place. However, as things started rolling out with strange developments experienced by members at every entry level (including me as well), one has to be suspicious and became aware and take steps not to worsen the situation, one way is to stop dead at one's own tracks and begin recuperating as best as possible and as much as well, thats how one learns from getting "suckered" and socked from past programs and cheering starts to ebb soon enough too. The path Neno and Rodney took was way beyond the hill, perhaps in Texas, they don't have enough hills to soon realized how shallow the GZ setup was to saddle back and out ...soon enough like I did by first giving the GZ operators the benefit of the doubt to come clear with their act...but that did not prevail which we had to learn much later, of the scheme that befell on us all and even at that stage, Neno was already deep into his own gutters not to realize the shit he's with!!! But again, to each his own ,I don't dictate what you do with YOUR money, that is YOUR CHOICE as you should know. What LynnRE has provided here in this thread, I had wished it came out much,much earlier so many could be saved from being scammed.... i just can't comprehend how anyone can fall that deep like throwing in an amount of $1K into GZ (like our member Pama did) when it was obvious, the program was a laugh and a ride for many joining in for FREE in the belief that they can get withdrawals by the hundred bucks or even more without any credible support from all those listed Vendors, claimed to be with GZ...holy mackerel... !!!

I spent not a single dime apart from the initial Gold step-in sum of $25 was it??? Its been quite awhile since...it could be $10 ... I'm not sure anymore anyway, the rest is left for the fun to sit back and watch for the better, positive if any again and see how it takes off from there. It was a bumpy but rockin' trip without question and like everyone including me, we read the current setup as such and if we feel it cost little to venture, we join in and so did I and many hundreds more with a wild belief that this may after all, be a grasshopper goody trip with shopping around shops in America!!!

Originally Posted by pama

I paid them over $1000 and haven't gotten anything they promised back. I can't believe how stupid I was.
Pama

It may appear foolish, but you did with a belief and positively hoping, like many that were in it, to see something unique and special as was the way GZ projected its concept. I just hope, like myself, just sick & tired of these many online bogus promises and you have to pay & pay and still cough out to stay with more empty promises and excuses...its a short story actually to conclude a SCAM is in the making!!!

The Internet offers alot of ideal situations, the real businesses that utilizes the Internet with a website, remains legitimate and credible once the dare to imprint and expose themselves for scrutiny by way of legitimate business addresses and Registrations set up with their local Business Administrative Body regulating commercial activities.

If you have a program that falls short of such transparent and inevitable criteria... AVOID THEM at all cost!!! Getting mulled and fooled by others claiming they got payouts once or twice and give the operators a break to fix troubled glitches etc... its mostly CRAP to buy time for a calculated getaway... If you still want to take your chance after knowing of the fact, its your Problem and Guilt you have to face on your own later on...no one is to be blame for your ox-headed stubbornness and deliberate ignorance to avoid the obvious tell-tale signs already surfacing... Blame it ON YOURself by then... like I did too after slicking the damn defeat with another in the PIPS con program!! That was my personal loss and I fortunately, am coping it without further need of malice on the "culprits" behind it... they are now behind bars and awaiting their trial... may they live to say and or admit their wrongdoings by the time sentence is paid in full... I don't know, they are not young to start a life in prison.

Hence, if you want to invest and play safe with your hard earned savings... do it with a secure and trusted Broker or Bank Director that is active with the Investment Field...the right chap for consultation!!

Remember, for the same amount of money, time and trust vested in any potential business dealings or set up, that Dept can do the DD and research for you...the professional way and come back to you either to cautiously invest a modest amount for starters, or completely advise to AVOID, due to a number of reasons or circumstances they uncovered!!!


You don't need of those wise cracks from strangers that bellow with hollow rants and cheering thru a Forum to make your decision... that's too risky and unwise for a fact!!!

Since my damning demise for a heavy loss with PIPS, with CHIN UP to the rising sun's direction... it has begun terrific well and is still doing so and as Wall Street too has voiced out... investing towards the Asian Markets including Real Estate, is a boom time since last year and many more years to come into the future... look at America and Canada now... nowhere breathtaking nor the least good or encouraging.

We are getting more millionaire Canadians flocking away to the Realty Markets in Asia and the wealthy Americans are doing likewise... we should know, because we have more coming from these two countries lately for wanting to stash their green bills into Real Estate, even after admitting, selling at a loss they can better now afford to sacrifice their current properties back home in USA and Canada!

Go into Real Estate... it is much secure and safer but you need to know WHERE and HOW and AVOID fancy burnt out places thats crippling due to a host of economic circumstances and reasons...the new opportunities are, and believe it or not, the new frontiers with further research and hardware developments supported and relocated by BIG American Corporations increasingly moving towards Asia.... thus creating job opportunities and brain drain of highly skilled Staff & Executives to leave Corporate America to somewhere more affordable and worthy of starting a better new life for themselves and family...this is where, modest to lavish HOMES and accommodation becomes a reality boom for empowering Real Estate development projects...which I am now nicely with... and its flourishing since last year!!!

I have an account which I use for internet transfers only. When I transfer something out, it just goes through this account. When I receive money, I immediately transfer the funds to another account. At other times the account is always empty so nobody can steal any funds from it.

Originally Posted by bultn

I have an account which I use for internet transfers only. When I transfer something out, it just goes through this account. When I receive money, I immediately transfer the funds to another account. At other times the account is always empty so nobody can steal any funds from it.

That's a smart & SWIFT method to be ahead of such thieving operators...WTG!!!