UPDATE in PM from Bryan

[moncheri]

I agree completely and I will say I have high regards for Bryan. I am sorry he has had to take so much abuse, but that is the way these things are, I guess...

Good post Hasse!

Salcath,

I remember Bryan wrote already earlier that he'll respond to questions when he can. So you only tire yourself (and him) if you continue asking.

Btw... don't let your expectations about pips interfere with your decision about joining halotto.

If you have informed yourself properly, like the idea and are willing to promote & recruite so you can build a group of ticket buyers and/or other affiliates in your downline... so you can make money out of it: join as an affiliate.

If you want to play the lottery and/or support halotto and it's charities: join as a regular member... preferably under a member you know or like... and who is still in need of people like you to get 'break even'.

If you don't want any of this, no matter for what reason (no money, not sure about promotion & recruiting capability, no desire to work in the gambling business,...): that's OK too.

Hasse

[ArcturusI]

Style:

Let's stick to the current exercise. It will answer many of your questions. To be blunt, you don't have the resources nor the RIGHT to "shut down" the lotto. IF that is your intent, count me among those who will oppose you. Just as I do not agree with what some people do, I will not deny them their right to do it, as long as they are not corrupting or harming the public. It's like any dependant disorder (gambling, drugs, ect). You can voice your opinion, you can criticize, you can tell others to stay away, but you have absolutely no authority to shut a program down. IF, and that is IF a program is deemed illegal, or is abusive under the law, then, yes, do what you can in the way of notification and complaints. So far, this isn't illegal nor has it been deemed so. I think people who go to casinos day after day are nuts. I think people who drop HUNDREDS and THOUSANDS of dollars on sweepstakes and scratch-offs are certifiable. But I will not deny them their right to spend the college tuition. Is it fair? No. Is it honorable? Of course not. But it is THEIR money (most of the time). Yes there are victims. But it's mostly self inflicted (as you well know).

Arcturus

[3miles2c]

Style:

Let's stick to the current exercise... I think people who go to casinos day after day are nuts. I think people who drop HUNDREDS and THOUSANDS of dollars on sweepstakes and scratch-offs are certifiable. But I will not deny them their right to spend the college tuition. But it is THEIR money (most of the time). Yes there are victims. But it's mostly self inflicted (as you well know).

Arcturus

Thank you, ...you just described our involvement in p**s....

The more "athorities" involved the more investigating time required.
( each will want to do their own... ) do the math.

lets not be our own worst enemy here...


miles

[Judy for peace]

Hi Style,
Do you know what's more important that the money? It's good health. Anger triggers adrenaline and other hormones and chemicals that have tax the body. You could, just for one day, try and let this all go. Let go of the control, let go of who's right and who's wrong.

Do something self- loving. Take a nap, watch a funny movie, take a walk in nature, eat some healthy food and try and find some joy. Do something fun and put some distance from yourself and PIPS, just for one day.

If you so choose, you can be angry tomorrow. You can also notice if you feel better being angry than you did the day before, when you let it go.

We cannot control Bryan, PIPS members or the bank folks. We only have the power to control ourselves.

I hope you have a most blessed day, and little thing happen in your day to make you smile and remember good feelings.

Peace, Judy

[FatManInTheBathtub]

Style, you are something else. I don't know much more clear Bryan can make the info. Until the investagation is over, there is nothing to report. You going to blow a gasket. And what is wrong with Bryan trying to help those in need? I'm sure you got clean water and food to eat. You don't have to look far to see someone else in worse shape than you are.....

[Toefl]

Marek, Thank you for you update, news or no news, your efforts are much appreciated.

Bryan, I am still trusting you, I will make you a present when the restructured form of Pips is a reality and members get their funds back.

at first, I thought this experience has turned into a nightmare for me, but now I think it has made me stronger as it has forced me to realize what I should focus in my life, to better myself.

Happy Easter, everyone!

[joydot]

I was NOT threatening you. Merely making an observation. If other people feel as YOU do about what YOU are doing/saying, then what I said about them "being after your hide" is not unlike what YOU are doing to Bryan because of all YOUR abuse towards him You sound as if you are "after his hide".

I don't believe he is using OUR money for the Lotto.. HE CAN'T GET AT IT!!!!!!!

And YES if people (and that includes YOU) keep going to whatever authorities they please then the investigation keeps going on and on and on and on ........ and eventually everything disappears in a mass of legal expenses etc.

That is how I think it could be "brought down" even if it is not illegal.

I am NOT OK financially! We are living on Welfare because of my husband's illness and have NO prospect of getting any better off (without PIPS) but it does NO GOOD AT ALL to rant and rave and get angry about it. ALL that does is make ME ill too.

I also have to take my daughter (26)and granddaughter (18 mths) to hospital in a couple of weeks for surgery (daughter). We have to travel about 4 hrs to the hospital. She will be in for 5 days to 2 weeks minimum and I have to stay there with friends and I still like to pay my way. We have already done this in March but surgery was cancelled and we start again at the end of this month.

WE DON'T have the MONEY to do it but we also DON'T have a choice. I could RANT and RAVE about the cancelled surgery but what would that accomplish. NOTHING

I would like to get in on something else to take up the slack while I wait but I don't have the means so that's just my lot. Do I rant about that too? NO! it isn't worth it.

Some kind person (Elizabeth) tried to help me out by giving me $50 to put into 12DP but we all know where that ended up.

Also RESPECT is a 2 way street. Bryan doesn't come here anymore because PEOPLE (MEMBERS) would treat him with UTTER DISRESPECT in that they would comment whatever he said as either a LIE or USE it to make further trouble by posting elsewhere even when DIRECTLY ASKED NOT TO. Even now when he did come here everything he said was distorted, abused, or ignored. SO I DON'T BLAME HIM IF HE STAYS AWAY UNTIL HE FINALLY HAS EVERYTHING IN PLACE.

Yes, it is frustrating, it is nerve racking, it is annoying but THAT IS THE WAY IT IS.

as my son would say, GET OVER IT

joy

[joydot]

YES I have loaned people money and NOT had it repayed.

Recently my other daughter's husband spent $300 on his Model Racing Cars knowing full well that within a couple of weeks he would need money for a Medical Specialist for their 2 yr son. He should go back to the specialist to get the results from tests taken but they don't have the money because they have to register their car or some other excuse, but he always has money for his racing cars.

My son paid for the child's initial dr. visit ($50) and that was to be repaid but they didn't have the money. Later the same day he spent the $300 on Model car parts.

THAT MAKES ME MAD but DO I RANT AND RAVE NO! IT wouldn't do any good.

Joy

[michaelr]

All I (and MANY others) want from him is simply the respect that we deserve.


Just as a point of interest style, could you please explain why you think you are deserving of this "respect" that you appear to want so badly and how your ranting and abusive "style" is supposed to be constructive in earning that respect?

Your constant carping and threats completely fail to earn any respect from me I am afraid and I dare say I am not the only member of the forum who is bored with your cry baby tantrums.

Curious

Michael

[OICU812]

All I (and MANY others) want from him is simply the respect that we deserve.


Just as a point of interest style, could you please explain why you think you are deserving of this "respect" that you appear to want so badly and how your ranting and abusive "style" is supposed to be constructive in earning that respect?

Your constant carping and threats completely fail to earn any respect from me I am afraid and I dare say I am not the only member of the forum who is bored with your cry baby tantrums.

Curious

Michael

You dont think that since we lent Bryan money in good faith we deserve the respect of proper communication whether there is new info. or not?