one thing that must be answered.....for all to know and digest, then make decisions.based on fact, not conjecture...............what has happened to the ROI? did it stop in august......is it gone? are you trying to replace the lost ROI with these new plans? surely you have figured out the new restructure which includes the new percent schedule..................do we come back in with 10% 50%.....has it continued to run ......
if you hve figured out the first part of the restructure.....pipsaid and such........what of the other..
it is only right that we are let in on the second part or third part of the restructure...........this is a fair question.......dont you think?
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Bryan and Sharon,
Even thought I haven't participated in Pipsaid because it's gambling, I want to thank you for setting up something for those who learn that way. I know it's the beginning and am looking forward to the next step. With three truckloads of files, I'm very aware that the BN investigation could go on for a long time.
I appreciate your efforts.
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All right then. Hang in there Bryan.
Thanks
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goodtime
Hello PIPSTERS !
No offense to anyone, including you Brian , but people has the right to ask
regarding their loan to PIPS .....! There never was on explenation what happen with our funds....! My withdrawls never been honor ! Communication
from PIPS was minimal and poor.... sorry....!
GINS did a excellent job informing the members what happen in weekly and
montly basics.... yes, they admit their mistakes ...,becouse of this , most
GINsters has confidence in the program and will be succesfull in near future !
I am and I will be supporter of PIPS , but in the other hand ,I will not walk in a
blind faith ........!
Cheers to all,
goodtime
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Our prayers are with you
Bryan,
Thank you for all you are doing to get things back on track and for communicating with us. I believe you are doing all you can and I know it can get frustrating having people pulling at you from every side.
My family and I are standing with you and our prayers are with you for strength, encouragement and wisdom.
God bless you
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Originally Posted by ancient
This exactly it!!
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Originally Posted by dinare
Let me ask you this......since PIPS has been down and there has been no Pipsaid........have you continued to donate to charities anyway? WELL I HAVE!
So maybe I should say since you havent continued to donate to charities that you should not be allowed to Join any programs.
I also want to say that just because I wont be participating in this immediately doesnt mean that I dont support Bryan, Sharon and PIPS........because I do........100% and I will be whole heartedly and completely involved in this as soon as PIPS is back running smoothly.
Bryan, I still beleive in you and Sharon and you still have my support.
Do what you have to do to get us back on track........FULLY operational. This just wasnt the news we were expecting, (doesnt mean it is BAD news, just not the right news)Last edited by Style; 04-12-2005 at 04:46 PM.
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Originally Posted by marklv
The issue here is not whether or not people invested money that they couldn't afford to lose: even if I had invested money that I was prepared to lose, I would want to know why the company in which I had invested collapsed and caused that loss.
Neither is the issue Brian's integrity or lack thereof. Faith is great to have if it is well placed, but blind faith is something else all together. In my opinion, p*psters have been asked to enter into blind faith when they are told to just keep "believing the best," but without any definition of what has happened or without any encouragement about what will happen.
My danger signals go off when I'm told things like "I'm not at liberty to say why the program was investigated." If this is a government investigation, I'm assuming that they stated why P*Ps was being investigated, and that should be common knowledge. If in fact there are bona fide reasons why it can't be disclosed, those reasons need to be explained. I'm also not encouraged when there is no information given about what steps are being taken to bring the 2% program back online.
I also believe that the insinuation that people who are not overjoyed about the aid site coming back up because "P*Ps is about helping the less fortunate, not about getting rich" is a shallow defense. Let's get real here folks. The great philanthropists of history have first been men and women who built personal fortunes, like Bill Gates (close to $30 billion in donations and 60% of his net worth), Gordon Moore (more than $7 billion in donations and close to 200% of his net worth), William Coleman (more than 250 million in donations and 335% of his net worth). If I'm serious about giving to the less fortunate, I'll give a substantial percentage of my earnings, not buy a lottery ticket.
The above concerns are not an attack, rather a request for there to be openness and dialogue. I don't believe that has happened to date. If in fact there has been a statement of what went wrong and what is being investigated, I'd appreciate being pointed to that definition and then I'll gladly post an apology for having requested it here. Until such time, I am, in the terminology of the investment world, neither bullish nor bearish, but flat.
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The best way to donate to a charity is do it direct. Goto the redcross or cancer foundations websites and send them the money directly. One should never donate to a charity through an intermediary anyway.
Brian
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Originally Posted by edbri871
There are other ways to donate to charities.....and I do participate regularly (in the ones you mentioned) BUT it doesnt mean that the new "Pipsaid" is bad either (and I will fully participate after PIPS is back), for now.... I just choose to donate locally. So I do my part whether PIPS is up or not.Last edited by Style; 04-12-2005 at 04:49 PM.
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