Don't Want This To Get Lost In Comeback Teaser thread

[Adster]

The best way to donate to a charity is do it direct. Goto the redcross or cancer foundations websites and send them the money directly. One should never donate to a charity through an intermediary anyway.

Brian

Best you go and do it the with the 'profits' from your crappy site.

[dougrb54]

I for one had all my play money tied up in my ROI. If anybody would like to ask for an update on PIPSinc at The BANK NERAGA MALAYSIA (central bank of Malaysia) this is their site address http://www.bnm.gov.my/ They do have an update link for PIPS but it hasn't been updated since Sept. Maybe if enough people ask they will keep the updates current.

[edbri871]

Every 6 months a make a sizable donation, primarily to the American red cross, they expecially need it after this Hurricane season :( But I agree, cancer foundations need these donations just as much, as I truly believe that just a little bit of money can make huge strides in the fight against all types of cancer. Never give your money to somone who claims they will be sending it to a charity. Wheather it's pipsaid, your favorite cousin, or some internet website, thats just silly when you can make sure 100% of your contribution goes directly to the place you want it to be used.

Brian

[Adster]

Every 6 months a make a sizable donation, primarily to the American red cross, they expecially need it after this Hurricane season :( But I agree, cancer foundations need these donations just as much, as I truly believe that just a little bit of money can make huge strides in the fight against all types of cancer. Never give your money to somone who claims they will be sending it to a charity. Wheather it's pipsaid, your favorite cousin, or some internet website, thats just silly when you can make sure 100% of your contribution goes directly to the place you want it to be used.

Brian

You're not wanted here stirring it up. Go back to your swamp.

[miclob]

Whatever it takes Bryan. My wife and I are behind you 100% and will help in any way we can. God bless you and Sharon and know that the majority out here will support you as best we can! Remember, there is a silent majority and they don't speak, they act. Let us know what to do when and you will see!

Mike and Pepper

[sunrunner]

This kind of sentiment, in my opinion, while too strong, is at its root justified. People do have a right to know what happened to their money and why the investigation happened in the first place. That is not an accusation, rather a request for accountability. Were P*Ps a company traded on the stock exchange, investors would have access to documentation of assets and liabilities, as well as transcripts of any court proceedings that may have resulted in their loss of investment capital.

The issue here is not whether or not people invested money that they couldn't afford to lose: even if I had invested money that I was prepared to lose, I would want to know why the company in which I had invested collapsed and caused that loss.

Neither is the issue Brian's integrity or lack there of. Faith is great to have if it is well placed, but blind faith is something else all together. In my opinion, p*psters have been asked to enter into blind faith when they are told to just keep "believing the best," but without any definition of what has happened or without any encouragement about what will happen.

My danger signals go off when I'm told things like "I'm not at liberty to say why the program was investigated." If this is a government investigation, I'm assuming that they stated why P*Ps was being investigated, and that should be common knowledge. If in fact there are bona fide reasons why it can't be disclosed, those reasons need to be explained. I'm also not encouraged when there is no information given about what steps are being taken to bring the 2% program back online.

I also believe that the insinuation that people who are not overjoyed about the aid site coming back up because "P*Ps is about helping the less fortunate, not about getting rich" is a shallow defense. Let's get real here folks. The great philanthropists of history have first been men and women who built personal fortunes, like Bill Gates (close to $30 billion in donations and 60% of his net worth), Godon Moore (more than $7 billion in donations and close to 200% of his net worth), William Coleman (more than 250 million in donations and 335% of his net worth). If I'm serious about giving to the less fortunate, I'll give a substantial percentage of my earnings, not buy a lottery ticket.

The above concerns are not an attack, rather a request for there to be openness and dialogue. I don't believe that has happened to date. If in fact there has been a statement of what went wrong and what is being investigated, I'd appreciate being pointed to that definition and then I'll gladly post an apology for having requested it here. Until such time, I am, in the terminology of the investment world, neither bullish nor bearish, but flat.

RWW

DITTO HERE!

Mr. Marsden

If you are overwhelmed with getting this program back up and running, maybe getting some help would be a very good idea. There are members that probably will work for nothing. I am not one of those. I have a full schedule. Not much can be done when just you and your wife does all the work now can it?
This is a real problem for me when you say just you and your wife is doing all this. It may work for a small company, but not one with this many members.
A lot of questions, and very few answers. Beyond the Bank of N. situation, just what is the problem truthfully?
The loans need to be repaid!

Sunrunner

[cga]

Bryan,

Your intemperate outburst suggests to me that you have clearly no understading of how people feel.

Many people have invested thousands and put their faith in YOU! What right do you have to say that you are working your b****** off when that is what you should be doing anyway? Do you think this is some sort of game? If PIPS had continued to pay then it would never have been closed down! And you have told us Jack S**t about WHY you stopped paying in the first place!!

I suggest that if you wish to put yourself forward in the best possible light, you need to be open and straightforward with people. Was PIPS a Ponzi scam? If it was, just say so! Better to say that than to obfuscate people with excuses.

People with this kind of attitude should be given their money back and
never to be accepted again in the group. You were old enough to know
what you were joining and if things don't go your way you are whining like
a little child. I bet if you got your profits you were one of those jumping
up and down and praising Bryan and when things goes wrong you say
s... about him.

[ourhouse37]

I understand tired. I'm sorry so many people made you mad. Your post made me feel a little lumped in with them, I don't think you should forget the thousands that have prayed with you and for you, and have stayed the course. I will continue.
blessings,
Kristin

[solitaire]

This kind of sentiment, in my opinion, while too strong, is at its root justified. People do have a right to know what happened to their money and why the investigation happened in the first place. That is not an accusation, rather a request for accountability. Were P*Ps a company traded on the stock exchange, investors would have access to documentation of assets and liabilities, as well as transcripts of any court proceedings that may have resulted in their loss of investment capital.

The issue here is not whether or not people invested money that they couldn't afford to lose: even if I had invested money that I was prepared to lose, I would want to know why the company in which I had invested collapsed and caused that loss.

Neither is the issue Brian's integrity or lack there of. Faith is great to have if it is well placed, but blind faith is something else all together. In my opinion, p*psters have been asked to enter into blind faith when they are told to just keep "believing the best," but without any definition of what has happened or without any encouragement about what will happen.

My danger signals go off when I'm told things like "I'm not at liberty to say why the program was investigated." If this is a government investigation, I'm assuming that they stated why P*Ps was being investigated, and that should be common knowledge. If in fact there are bona fide reasons why it can't be disclosed, those reasons need to be explained. I'm also not encouraged when there is no information given about what steps are being taken to bring the 2% program back online.

I also believe that the insinuation that people who are not overjoyed about the aid site coming back up because "P*Ps is about helping the less fortunate, not about getting rich" is a shallow defense. Let's get real here folks. The great philanthropists of history have first been men and women who built personal fortunes, like Bill Gates (close to $30 billion in donations and 60% of his net worth), Godon Moore (more than $7 billion in donations and close to 200% of his net worth), William Coleman (more than 250 million in donations and 335% of his net worth). If I'm serious about giving to the less fortunate, I'll give a substantial percentage of my earnings, not buy a lottery ticket.

The above concerns are not an attack, rather a request for there to be openness and dialogue. I don't believe that has happened to date. If in fact there has been a statement of what went wrong and what is being investigated, I'd appreciate being pointed to that definition and then I'll gladly post an apology for having requested it here. Until such time, I am, in the terminology of the investment world, neither bullish nor bearish, but flat.

RWW

RWW, I agree wholeheartedly with your post.

[norsetrading]

I trust you Bryan to straighten it out in the end, whatever time it takes, I will wait. My best wishes for you and Sharon!