Thread: Lotto Affiliate Program

Originally Posted by Style

Look at this one:
http://www.consumerwebwatch.org/dyna...-the-money.cfm


"It’s illegal," says FTC spokeswoman Brenda Mack. “Even if somebody [in the U.S.] won a foreign lottery, they wouldn’t be able to claim it.”



Good night all.

Well then they are contradicting themselves because at the end of that article it states...



The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service offer several tips to avoid getting suckered by fake-lottery scams:

* Don’t enter an online contest unless you’re sure the company that runs it is legitimate, and even then, read their privacy policy to see if your information will be sold to marketers. “Some scammers run contests to get additional names,” says the FTC’s Charles Harwood.
* Watch out for "phishing" sites that bear brand-name companies’ logos but request very sensitive personal information, such as bank account or Social Security numbers. “A bogus site that looks very official may have an option that says, ‘I would like to be paid by a bank transfer’ and ask for your account number,” says Harwood.
* Never make advance payments to receive a "prize" in a sweepstakes.
* Don't provide personal or financial information online, especially for a contest you never entered.
* Ignore contests that pressure you into responding right away.
* Remember: Federal law prohibits mailing payments to purchase any ticket, share, or chance in a foreign lottery.


So basically even this articles implies that you can legally play. And then states that it is against Federal law to MAIL payments into a foreign lottery. Nothing about the internet there......

Hi Brian,

It sounds great that PIPSAID is making a come back and hopefully not so distant future PIPS and related companies... Anyway my Major concern is are you going to have a back up server (cold Server) in case something should happen with the one your operating PipsAid from? .... It just one of my concerns that I haven't seen address yet.... Just some security Issues I have!!!.

cheers

I have not been on this board before, but what am I missing? Are we just sweeping PIPS under the rug? I have never made a penny from PIPS, why on earth would I continue to give more money to participate in anything?

I'm sorry, did I miss something...my understanding is that this is by choice only. Please inform me otherwise if that's not a correct assumption.

Hi Bryan,

I want to say first, it is sooooo great to see you Bryan. And, thank you for these posts.

I have a question. I realize this is a touchy subject and I am not intelligent to the law lotteries, but ... there are other online lotteries out there. Why would it be any different for pipsaid to run a lottery as long as, they were legitamate and had all pertinent licensing?

I see there are specific laws governing postal and governmental redtape on the issues of lotteries, but there are some huge online lottery companies that are running and they must have all the necessary docementation that is in line with the laws of this nature. Otherwise, they would be gone. Right?

I trust you Bryan and I feel you would not speak unless it was the truth. As I have said in the past, you have always done for the good of your members. There is no way you would allow us to get caught up in a snare. I remember with PIPS when you changed the roi to rol. That is a very good example of how you made a specific change to meet the needs of your members globally.

I, myself, do not want to jeaprodize my family or my business. I just feel that there are some missing facts here. Pipsaid seems legal to me. But, I base that on my trust of Bryan and the fact that there are many many major online lotteries out there that run successfully and appear to be within the legal boundaries.

Please understand, I do not know if lotteries are legal or what makes them legal. Bryan has pointed out crucial things here.

Originally Posted by BM

Style,

1. The internet is cyberspace and does not belong to any country, although some think it belongs to them.

2. PIPSAID is fully licensed and legal to operate as many gambling sites as it wishes as long as they are internet based and do not sell offline.

3. BN investigation officer stated in a meeting I had with them that PIPSAID was not a part of their investigation and should be ok.

4. The lotto is a personal preference, it is your own decision on whether to join or not. If you consider that a personal risk exists then do not join.

5. The company does not come under US jurisdiction unless it sells tickets offline or operates its business physically in the US. Also note members are NOT agents, representatives or employees of the company they are independent, as it is with all PIPS operations.

The choice is purely up to you.

THE LOTTO IS LEGALLY LICENSED FOR INTERNET.

Bryan

PS: Note that states running their own lotteries also have a vested interest in people buying ONLY their lottery tickets.

Again, Bryan, so great to see you online again

DizzyFool

You are right.............every article I am reading is a contradiction to the next one I read. I think we will be ok here since I cant find anything definitive saying it is illegal. I was up until 4:30 this morning researching this and I am starting to wonder if what they are referring to as being illegal is the playing of "regular foreign lotteries". You know like here in the states each state has its own lottery and then there is the Powerball. Well..........that isnt internet lottery it is just regular lottery.
So what BM said awhile back is becoming clearer. It probably is illegal to purchase a regular foreign lottery ticket via the internet. Lets say for example if I purchased a Montreal, Canada lottery ticket on the internet........that may be illegal as compared to purchasing an "internet Lottery" ticket from a Website where the servers are in Montreal or where the company is based out of Montreal. Maybe the laws are different and that is why the stories are conflicting. Maybe my attorney thinks I am referring to "regular lottery" and not "internet lottery".

Sounds good to me anyway............I am IN!

Originally Posted by Pippyman

Well then they are contradicting themselves because at the end of that article it states...



The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service offer several tips to avoid getting suckered by fake-lottery scams:

* Don’t enter an online contest unless you’re sure the company that runs it is legitimate, and even then, read their privacy policy to see if your information will be sold to marketers. “Some scammers run contests to get additional names,” says the FTC’s Charles Harwood.
* Watch out for "phishing" sites that bear brand-name companies’ logos but request very sensitive personal information, such as bank account or Social Security numbers. “A bogus site that looks very official may have an option that says, ‘I would like to be paid by a bank transfer’ and ask for your account number,” says Harwood.
* Never make advance payments to receive a "prize" in a sweepstakes.
* Don't provide personal or financial information online, especially for a contest you never entered.
* Ignore contests that pressure you into responding right away.
* Remember: Federal law prohibits mailing payments to purchase any ticket, share, or chance in a foreign lottery.


So basically even this articles implies that you can legally play. And then states that it is against Federal law to MAIL payments into a foreign lottery. Nothing about the internet there......

You dont have to spend anything...........this is free to join and no PIPS isnt being swept anywhere. Just waiting on BNM to finish up and give PIPS the
to continue. This is a program where we can get involved now and generate some income while waiting for PIPS to come back.
You have NOTHING to lose and everything to gain.................so jump in and join us.

If you want to give a whirl send me a PM and I will get back with you about it. We are all going to be helping each other so this is a cant lose program.

Originally Posted by tmalbert

I have not been on this board before, but what am I missing? Are we just sweeping PIPS under the rug? I have never made a penny from PIPS, why on earth would I continue to give more money to participate in anything?

If he truly respected the members that dumped millions into his program
he would answer these questions. Dont you think actions speak louder than words.
In my opinion the actions of BM and PIPS are certainly suspect. I dont understand how anyone in there right mind could even consider another program by BM until he comes forward and answers these questions. I truly wanted to believe in PIPS. But just found the numbers incomprehensible. If the majority of members were pulling out say 10,000.00 a month which is certainly not a stretch- do the math and tell me how PIPS was going to sustain that kind of payout. Its unfortunate and unconscionable that so many have shattered dreams and financial hardships because of broken promises.
BM doesnt even have the decency to communicate to the good people the world over who put their faith and trust in him. If the questons on this thread were answered by BM then I to might have new found respect for BM. But until then why should any respect be given.

Originally Posted by bushsux

If he truly respected the members that dumped millions into his program
he would answer these questions. Dont you think actions speak louder than words.
In my opinion the actions of BM and PIPS are certainly suspect. I dont understand how anyone in there right mind could even consider another program by BM until he comes forward and answers these questions. I truly wanted to believe in PIPS. But just found the numbers incomprehensible. If the majority of members were pulling out say 10,000.00 a month which is certainly not a stretch- do the math and tell me how PIPS was going to sustain that kind of payout. Its unfortunate and unconscionable that so many have shattered dreams and financial hardships because of broken promises.
BM doesnt even have the decency to communicate to the good people the world over who put their faith and trust in him. If the questons on this thread were answered by BM then I to might have new found respect for BM. But until then why should any respect be given.

I agree that there are a million and one questions about PIPS that need to be answered. While you may have the right to digress from what this thread is all about, you are missing the answers to your questions which have been answered a thousand times before. Let me summarize those answers for you since this is your first post:

PIPS and PicPay are under investigation by Bank Negara and we all have to wait for its decision. Neither you, I, nor the thousands of members can do anything about it. We cannot dictate the central bank of another country to expedite its work because you, I, the thousand members out there nor Bryan demand it.

Bryan has more than once explained that as soon as the investigation is over, PIPS will be back with all of our accounts intact. While BN has not given any indication at what stage its investigation is at, there have been sufficient unconfirmed reports that PIPS is not in violation of any the Malaysian banking laws. Also unconfirmed reports claim that what infractions PicPay may have made are minor.

Don't make it sound as if you're the only person who is waiting for a payout. All of us are. But we can't mope around and beat our breasts, crying it was Bryan's fault.

Because PIPSAID was not part of the investigation, Bryan has decided to re-open the program with increased chances for members to earn money while at the same time giving PIPSAID a chance to resume its humanitarian work.

Not everyone likes it but no one is forcing anyone to join, to become an affiliate or to play. THE CHOICE IS Y0URS.

I, along with thousands more who have posted before me, support this effort. Right now this thread is all about support for the program. The parade of supporters is getting longer. Don't rain on it. You can watch us win some money and then you can ask yourself "what happened?"

has anyone worked out how many people are required to fill ONE matrix?

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