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    I like it, too but it raises a lot of problems for the government. Right now, they have control of our power. We need a permit to do any work, and to erect new buildings. This provides a mechanism to ensure that all wiring is properly done and safe - they inspect it and make sure of that. If it's not "up to code", they will not turn on the power. That's how they enforce it all. If there is a new device that they cannot control, people will do stupid things and burn down their houses, electrocute themselves, etc. Then, they'll blame the government.
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    It is my understanding that we could be able to have a power box the size of a standard refrigerator that could power, heat, and cool our homes using hydrogen extracted from of all things water. No more power lines, LP, or oil to power and keep us safe in our homes.

    Again, if enough people could come together to pool our profits from the IQD alone we could make this come about. The only problem is I would NOT share it with the world! We as a nation must rebuild our factories, manufacturing, and bring back the quality of “Made In The U.S.A.”!

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    Good point,

    There are already several hydrogen fuel cells for power, unfortunately, they are too costly for most, so commercial back up is about the extent of market at this time. I would have converted years ago if not for the price. For most, there has to be a reasonable return on investment, and at this point it is not feasable.

    What is feasable is a self generating hydrogen system which is less costly than every other alternative energy device currently on market. We hope to have home units on market once we get our hydragen fusion vehicle conversions completed, so it is just a matter of time, and when the RV happens, that is exactly where I am putting my money to work, to end oil dependency once and for all. (g)

    Good luck and health to all, Mike

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    You talk about alternative enery. Have you ever seen the movie "Who killed the electric car"? This movie is very informative about alternative enery and oil. If you have HBO, you can order it on their indemand or go to whokilledtheelecticcar.com check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsGib View Post
    You talk about alternative enery. Have you ever seen the movie "Who killed the electric car"? This movie is very informative about alternative enery and oil. If you have HBO, you can order it on their indemand or go to whokilledtheelecticcar.com check it out.
    But didn't our own Government kill it with the rediculous prices and then not honor the rebates for the purchases? If I am right, our Oil dependency will be here for a very long time yet to come, (Our Lifetime anyways) base on our own Governments Greed for Oil $$$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neno View Post
    But didn't our own Government kill it with the rediculous prices and then not honor the rebates for the purchases? If I am right, our Oil dependency will be here for a very long time yet to come, (Our Lifetime anyways) base on our own Governments Greed for Oil $$$$.
    It was a combination of our Government, the Auto Industry and the big Oil Companies. When they saw that the people would love this idea, they saw that they wouldn't make money in the way that they are making it now. It would cause us the people to become non dependent on oil. Check out the movie it explains alot. In my opinion even one of the reasons we are in Iraq today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neno View Post
    But didn't our own Government kill it with the rediculous prices and then not honor the rebates for the purchases? If I am right, our Oil dependency will be here for a very long time yet to come, (Our Lifetime anyways) base on our own Governments Greed for Oil $$$$.
    Price and rebates had nothing to do with it. The price was afforable to the average family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com View Post

    Good point,

    There are already several hydrogen fuel cells for power, unfortunately, they are too costly for most, so commercial back up is about the extent of market at this time. I would have converted years ago if not for the price. For most, there has to be a reasonable return on investment, and at this point it is not feasable.

    What is feasable is a self generating hydrogen system which is less costly than every other alternative energy device currently on market. We hope to have home units on market once we get our hydragen fusion vehicle conversions completed, so it is just a matter of time, and when the RV happens, that is exactly where I am putting my money to work, to end oil dependency once and for all. (g)

    Good luck and health to all, Mike
    Isn’t it the demand for a product that caused it to go into production and the more it sells, the lower the price in the long run? Not long ago I paid $82. / Meg for 4 strips of memory that totaled 16 Megs of RAM for the cost of $1,312. When I sold that RAM I only got $40. and counted my blessings. Today I can get a new computer with all the bells for that price and it comes with a Gig of RAM.

    As soon as it gets on the market, it will sell very high. However, over time the price will come down and more versions will be manufactured bring the cost down to the point everyone will be able to afford. Remember when people were amazed that you had a home computer? Now every member of the family has one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsGib View Post
    Price and rebates had nothing to do with it. The price was afforable to the average family.
    I am in the Automobil Industry. I even see the prices of the Hybirds Now. Less of a vehicle and more dollars again to purchase one. I havent seen the clip but have seen others on the subject. Which did explain of the rebates offord were never given. I will see this one too.

    And you are right about making us less Oil dependant from the pass of the invention. They would not stand for it, right. Which is why we are going to be Oil dependant threw out our life time. Now us as individuals will have to start the grain our selves to become undependant. It is my opinion and I will see the clip you provided. Thanks.

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    Neno,

    But if we can cut back on our oil needs at home won't that mean that we can have more fuel for our vehicles?

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    You would think so, but basically anything we don't use, China, India, and the rest of the world will. The oil is going to get used up quickly no matter what we do to stretch it out. The best thing we can do is to acknowledge this, plan ahead and implement alternatives as quickly as possible. "quick" in terms of changing the fuel basis for a country the size of ours is something on the order of years to decades even if we knew which way to go and how to do it. Which we don't.

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