Thread: r/v excitment from a Iraq Freind of a Freind

Originally Posted by bigdog79

I think susie had 4 contacts, maybe she will be able to check with them to get a yea or naye..

Wrong, "Quad" contacts. Makes all the difference in the World!!!

I am a vet, and lost the feeling in my left hand during desert storm... stopped me from being able to be a surgeon... I had many friends who became dot.com'ers past Desert Storm... and I wonder if it was worth it, sometimes..

but I think about the freedom to deny religion, God, government, spouses :) hee hee.... but that is a great freedom and it needs preserved at all costs... do I agree in this US method.. hell no.. but I will defend those that swore to protect it.. even if it is the wrong strategy.. the wings of freedom canot loose a feather...

and if my sacrifice has any butterfly effect for even one stranger I will take it... I am horrified at the pictures my friends send back from Iraq and Darfur...
I have seen first hand what humans are capable of... and having drawn my own Navy .45 and regretably taken the life of an enemy combatant during war, I will always ask was it worth it.. but I take action and faith to defend what is right, without forcing stuff down people's throats...

Despite the ugliness, I CHOOSE to believe in our potential (God Given, by my beliefs... but not required to be belived by all)...

so LEGAL and others who are getting upset... I wish I had full feeling in my hand.. but I get by knowing that your freedom is preserved ...

Linus

Originally Posted by lglwzrd

there is no God.

Let me suggest something to you....

Case 1. There is no God.
Case 2. God exists

Case A. You believe in God
Case B. You don't believe in God

Case 1A. There is no God but you believe in God - You had the joy and the benefit of your belief in God and it enriched your life even though God did not exist. Good

Case 1B. There is no God and you didn't believe in God - neutral..no loss..no gain


Case 2A. God exists and you believed in God - You had the joy and benefit of your belief in God to enrich you life and when you die you go to heaven - Good

Case 2B God exists and you didn't believe in God - Welcome to Hades


Any moron can see that the only case which is Good/Good are the "A" cases - belief in God whether he exists or not.

Only an dolt would choose the "B" cases - not believing...best case scenario is no gain/no loss....worst case...you're effed big time bro....have a seat in the eternal fire pit.

Originally Posted by lglwzrd

im not the total a..hole ive been made to look like...only 50%

Now, now, don't sell yourself short I'd give you 100%.

Originally Posted by silverstreak0

Hi all, i called my dad tonight,to see if i could get any more info. That was a big no,he is leaving tomorrow morning for home, and will not be back in Chicgo till the first week of Jan. SORRY. But i am hoping to get ahold of Joe. Sent him another email tonight. Rest assured all, that i took into concentration before i posted or even thought about letting Al post these rumors. the fact that i would get a lot of shiit if this doesnt pan out is ok, i will take it like a man. But should i hear anymore rumors, rest assured i will post them. Thank you

Thanks, Silver, can you check with Fred as well??? I hear he may have some "inside" info to share. Thanks again in advance.

Originally Posted by lglwzrd

thank you for your candor. this will date me. i remember being 18 and nixon was pres. he did away with all deferments. the draft switched over to a lottery system i was # 150 and they only took up to 125. i remember staying up all night w/my friends half scared out of our minds wondering if we were being sentenced to viet nam. in those days all draftees went. we now now that viet nam was only a testing ground for our weapons including some chemicals. i honestly to this day couldnt tell you what i would have done if my # was called. i am not a coward but i wont kill for what i dont believe in. i am familiar with ptsd. over the years i have been an advocate for vets rights and several of my clients as well as about 1000+ injury clients have suffered from the same. most viet nam vets today suffer from the ill effects of agent orange and other known carcinagenic substances. while i can appreciate the pride that you have in representing this country-i often wonder if it is worth it. in my daily life, the only contact i have w/vets or military affairs is b/c of the dinar. as a person who advocates full disclosure, in these days with what we know about the fools on the hill sending our children in harms way for no legitimate purpose, i always wondered...is it worth it. again thanks for your candor. im not the total a..hole ive been made to look like...only 50%

I know about what Nam vets suffer from. My wife is a service officer that helps veteran's with their claims with the VA.
As far as the big folks sending "our children" in harms way, They are all volunteers. I don't like war myself, but if you want to know how some of "our children" feel about it, there was an article in the news last week that stated the Marines had reached 150% of their reenlistment goal of troops in Iraq.
If I could go back in time and change what happened to me, would I? No!

Originally Posted by lglwzrd

thank you for your candor. this will date me. i remember being 18 and nixon was pres. he did away with all deferments. the draft switched over to a lottery system i was # 150 and they only took up to 125. i remember staying up all night w/my friends half scared out of our minds wondering if we were being sentenced to viet nam. in those days all draftees went. we now now that viet nam was only a testing ground for our weapons including some chemicals. i honestly to this day couldnt tell you what i would have done if my # was called. i am not a coward but i wont kill for what i dont believe in. i am familiar with ptsd. over the years i have been an advocate for vets rights and several of my clients as well as about 1000+ injury clients have suffered from the same. most viet nam vets today suffer from the ill effects of agent orange and other known carcinagenic substances. while i can appreciate the pride that you have in representing this country-i often wonder if it is worth it. in my daily life, the only contact i have w/vets or military affairs is b/c of the dinar. as a person who advocates full disclosure, in these days with what we know about the fools on the hill sending our children in harms way for no legitimate purpose, i always wondered...is it worth it. again thanks for your candor. im not the total a..hole ive been made to look like...only 50%

Wiz... unfortunately you still don't get it, but then again us Vet's have already
paid the price for you to have that luxury.

Originally Posted by lglwzrd

there is no God. in the beginning man created god. im glad you are a good mom. it is also accepted protocol to not capitalize in posts or emails.

Please don't compliment my abilities as a parent/mom. Your ideals are horrific, and I really hope that you haven't/won't reproduce. Please, no ediquette lessons from a slime-ball!! You owe the many on this forum an apology....living the life THEY provided for you.

In response to one of your lofty posts...If my son were to be man enough to join the US military to fight for a cause I couldn't be more scared/proud! That's what I am talking about BACKBONE...CHARACTER...MORALS!!! I hope and pray everyday that .. that is what I am teaching!!

And to comment on another post of yours......I am soooo sorry, you had to fear being drafted!?!?!!? REEAAALY...UGH You should have been, maybe would have made you a MAN!!!

Originally Posted by panhead

Wiz... unfortunately you still don't get it, but then again us Vet's have already
paid the price for you to have that luxury.

How does that quote go?
"Freedom isn't free, but you don't need to to worry about it.
A veteran has paid your share for you!"

Some people go through life wandering if they have made a difference.
A combat veteran doesn't have that problem.

I know I use the phrase combat vet alot as opposed to just writing vet or vets.
That is only because I have known or run across a few that stated they were in combat, but only wanted to make themselves more impressive. Not putting down our veterans that were never called over.