BRYANS ANSWER 7-feb-06! - MAREK

Marek,

One I have nothing to report other than I am still working on everything 36 hours a day.

Two I have lost my login to rolclub

and three you trying to insite people to contact BON will do NOTHING except antagonise them and slow things down even more than they are. I am working on it!

Nobody is more frustrated and tired than me, I have had to live with a begging bowl for the past 6 months. With no access to any money at all, without a home, transport or a job.

Bryan

ive checked bryans posts and nowhere have i found that he used BON / he always used BN / i dont believe this is from BM / and i cant believe he cant get passed a password or login

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Originally Posted by dfweagle

Marek,

One I have nothing to report other than I am still working on everything 36 hours a day.

Two I have lost my login to rolclub

and three you trying to insite people to contact BON will do NOTHING except antagonise them and slow things down even more than they are. I am working on it!

Nobody is more frustrated and tired than me, I have had to live with a begging bowl for the past 6 months. With no access to any money at all, without a home, transport or a job.

Bryan

ive checked bryans posts and nowhere have i found that he used BON / he always used BN / i dont believe this is from BM / and i cant believe he cant get passed a password or login

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I posted the very same thought eariler in this thread. I 100% agree on your first two points. BON is not how he refers to the Bank of.....Second point you made about not having a password. Please, reseting a password is child's play in the world of computer knowledge. I want to add some more things I saw as odd.
Bryan uses proper grammer and has been consistent in his grammer structure.The below is what the email said.
One I have ...etc is not how he has listed his reasons.
Review his posts and you will see something more like this.

1. I have nothing....etc.
2. I have ..etc
The refrence of working 36 hours a day is also odd. Bryan has never exaggrated like this in any of his posts. I take Bryan to be an educated man and uses words literally. Bryan knows there are only 24 hours a day and I don't think he would exaggerate this.

Next issue:
Email said..Nobody is more frustrated and tired than me, I have had to live with a begging bowl for the past 6 months. With no access to any money at all, without a home, transport or a job.

The first two sentances are called run on sentances. A period should be after me. Then the new sentance would follow. Bryan is educated in english grammer and would not write this. The last sentance is not proper english. It contains no verbs. Therefore, It is called a phrase or something like that. I do not claim to be a teacher, but I know Bryan writes very well and does knows the rules of sentance structure.

Feel free to check this out. Review his posts and you will see this is not the typicial language or structure he uses.

I'm very naive in these matters but things just don't add up here. Please can someone explain?

Are you telling me that a Bank has the right to raid a company that has, according to Bryan and Gary been investigated many times over and proven to be legite. Stop operations, take all their hardware, freeze their assets and then do a secret investigation at their own leisure behind closed doors.
That sounds ridiculous to me even in Malaysia.

First of all the Bank would need to get a court order to anything on the premises of a company. A court would only give such an order if there was good evidence of dodgy dealings.
I have however not been reading all the threads since the shutdown of PIPS, reason for this is most of them make me sick.
I know there are many of you there that know alot about these processes, could you confirm that this series of events is even possible?
To be honest it just sounds like bumkum to me.

As for Bryan, it seems to me that everyone else on the planet is responsible for what is going wrong in his life. In my life there is a common denominator between events that go well and those that go badly...me, NO ONE ELSE.

In Bryan's latest message I get the sense of an undercurrent that used to run through his messages when PIPS was up and running....stop whinning kids, can't you see I'm busy...if you don't stop interfering you'll ruin everything! I feel "He doth protest too much"..

I want you to prove my doubts wrong Bryan, unfortunately the evidence to date flies in the face of that happening.

The price of my lesson in this whole thing...£3000.

There is another point I would like to raise. Even if this investigation returns a a good result and everything is found to be above board. Do you really think that Bryan is going to have any standing in the Banking world. An unfortunate rule of thumb...slung mud sticks. Just how will Bryan be able convince the big bad boys that we all deserve a slice of the worlds' wealth now, when he was not able to do it before?

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Originally Posted by bburgess

I posted the very same thought eariler in this thread. I 100% agree on your first two points. BON is not how he refers to the Bank of.....Second point you made about not having a password. Please, reseting a password is child's play in the world of computer knowledge. I want to add some more things I saw as odd.
Bryan uses proper grammer and has been consistent in his grammer structure.The below is what the email said.
One I have ...etc is not how he has listed his reasons.
Review his posts and you will see something more like this.

1. I have nothing....etc.
2. I have ..etc
The refrence of working 36 hours a day is also odd. Bryan has never exaggrated like this in any of his posts. I take Bryan to be an educated man and uses words literally. Bryan knows there are only 24 hours a day and I don't think he would exaggerate this.

Next issue:
Email said..Nobody is more frustrated and tired than me, I have had to live with a begging bowl for the past 6 months. With no access to any money at all, without a home, transport or a job.

The first two sentances are called run on sentances. A period should be after me. Then the new sentance would follow. Bryan is educated in english grammer and would not write this. The last sentance is not proper english. It contains no verbs. Therefore, It is called a phrase or something like that. I do not claim to be a teacher, but I know Bryan writes very well and does knows the rules of sentance structure.

Feel free to check this out. Review his posts and you will see this is not the typicial language or structure he uses.

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Hi, well i did post the exact copy of his email. Since your analizing the email. i thought i might make a snap of it.

http://www.rolclub.com/Banners/BMs%20email.jpg

The email address Bryan sent it from is the email addr, Tom from the kids bible once gave me. Its also the same email adr, that support4pips uses to contact BM.

Several other has stated that its Bryan. Many use the email addr (he and i correspond on) in above email, to contact him.

I had to ask for BM's email. And had to ask Tom to get it, before Bryan accepted to give his email to me. Thats why i removed his, and my personal email addresses above.

I dont know more then this.

Marek

Nobody will buy the reason from Bryan that he stopped coming to the rolclub forum because he had lost the password.
He lost money. So did thousands of PIPS investors who had never received a Dime.
He is working 36 hrs everyday. Like almost all his previous statements this is an enigma wrapped in mystery.
Indrani Ganguly

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Originally Posted by Admin

The email address Bryan sent it from is the email addr, Tom from the kids bible once gave me. Its also the same email adr, that support4pips uses to contact BM.

Several other has stated that its Bryan. Many use the email addr (he and i correspond on) in above email, to contact him.

I had to ask for BM's email. And had to ask Tom to get it, before Bryan accepted to give his email to me. Thats why i removed his, and my personal email addresses above.

I dont know more then this.

Marek

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Ok, I am glad I saw the orginal email. Marek, I was not accusing you of anything. I just wanted to make a point that the email was not typicial of his past responses. It very well and probably was Bryan who responded. Do not take any offense to my post.

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Originally Posted by bburgess

Ok, I am glad I saw the orginal email. Marek, I was not accusing you of anything. I just wanted to make a point that the email was not typicial of his past responses. It very well and probably was Bryan who responded. Do not take any offense to my post.

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No offense taken :smile: .

Regards

Marek

The whole issue has become such a nightmare of claims and counter claims that even lawyers are confused. Don't believe a word of what you hear from Bryan, he knows what happen and why.

At this point I think PIPS is dead and buried. All our monies are gone.

As far as the LOTTO, does anyone really think are believe that he is doing the programming? If so where is the programming being done, no laptop is going to handle that much code, plus testing what you have written. None of this sounds right.

What a shame it has come to this.

bodge,

It's not just any bank, it's the central bank of malaysia. It's part of the reason they exist that they control finacial activities in malaysia and sometimes to do these kind of investigations if they think that something might be wrong.

And when they are finished and if everything is ok (or there has been no major breaches) then he will have proof from the authorities that everything is good which hopefully will make it easier, not harder, to work with the banks.

Further to SRAIR71's posting and others eg way2go, mott, bodge, sunrunner, piccologal over recent past, I believe that BM has to provide us with some concrete evidence as to what is happening with the 'investigation'. Can he not post copies of letters from the bank and/or court? Someone made the point that a court order would have to have been presented to PIPS/PICPAY to allow the 'investigators' to seize documents and freeze accounts. Where is this document? Has BM taken legal advice? If so, what advice was given. Is there any legal person working for us now? If not, why not?

There is no doubt that apart from the 'investigation' itself, it is the lack of communication that is the source for all the discontent, confusion, frustration, despair etc as indicated by the tens of postings over the months since PIPS' stystems went down.

Come on BM, show us what you are really made of! Marek, keep talking to him, privately if necessary, to encourage him to inform us. If he does then most of us will help him. If he does not, then only a few will.

All the best from the UK.

hibernianfc

Indrani Ganguly,

The first and foremost reason that he didn't post was that he has nothing new to say. That is his first point. You seem to have forgotten that while you read the second point.

To Bryan -- Only YOU really know your heart and the truth of your being.
I pray that all the faith people put in you is well deserved. Truth and true
living is above all. As Thumper has said,
there are things that would have been wise to do last year that weren't
done. Was that an honest error, or did it provide a convenient reason???
Only you REALLY know, and there's the frustration. Why did you
keep letting more people join when payouts couldn't be made? Why
didn't you close the membership, PROVING it wan't a ponzi? So many
valid questions. You've been given the benefit of the doubt by so
many, but everyone wants and deserves real answers and information.
To Marek -- YES! to the communication that Rolclub provides! As long as
we know that BN isn't done with the investigation yet, we need to
wait...that's assuming they're honest! I don't know what to think
about foreign banks anymore. There should be only one person
contacting them on our behalf, for now, to avoid complications, but I
think checking in with them every so often is a good idea...first hand
info is the best! Maybe we can agree here that YOU will be that one
person...?? Also, as long as there's ANY doubt, I second
the idea of tracing the BM e-mail ... wondering if it's real or not is NOT
what we need.
To Thumper -- I sense real integrity with you, thankfully, since DBR has $5000
of mine. Thanks for your post, clear thinking, and for staying in
touch through rolclub. The e-mails I've tried sending to you always
come back undeliverable. Have you had any luck finding out where DBRs
money is?

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Originally Posted by hibernianfc

Further to SRAIR71's posting and others eg way2go, mott, bodge, sunrunner, piccologal over recent past, I believe that BM has to provide us with some concrete evidence as to what is happening with the 'investigation'. Can he not post copies of letters from the bank and/or court? Someone made the point that a court order would have to have been presented to PIPS/PICPAY to allow the 'investigators' to seize documents and freeze accounts. Where is this document? Has BM taken legal advice? If so, what advice was given. Is there any legal person working for us now? If not, why not?

There is no doubt that apart from the 'investigation' itself, it is the lack of communication that is the source for all the discontent, confusion, frustration, despair etc as indicated by the tens of postings over the months since PIPS' stystems went down.

Come on BM, show us what you are really made of! Marek, keep talking to him, privately if necessary, to encourage him to inform us. If he does then most of us will help him. If he does not, then only a few will.

All the best from the UK.

hibernianfc

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The only public information there is about the investigation, you can find on BNM's homepage www.bnm.gov.my

In addition I've cut this from post 165 in this thread:

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For your information, section 16 of the Central Bank of Malaysia
Act 1958 prohibits the Central Bank of Malaysia from disclosing any
information obtained from investigations carried out pursuant to the
Banking and Financial Institutions Act 1989.

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to Rolbuddy,

Thanks for update.

Looks as if were are stymied...but what about legal representation for BM/PIPS members?


hibernianfc

Anyone ever filed a law suit---How long does it take?
How long does it take for a will to be settled---How bout about Marilyn Monroe' for example.
Big money takes big decisions and big decisions take big time.
Anyone who works under stress knows the feelings and should realize what this man is confronted with on a daily basis---consider the messages in this one string. Also when big $$$$$ is involved there is always someone trying to figure a way to try to confiscate it---even not so big $$$$$ anyone ever experienced that. Legalities have a certain path that must be taken and patience is definitely a virtue. Has anyone ever felt overwhelmed? Come on just try to imagine what Bryan is going through---It would have destroyed many people. I’m not trying to condone what has happened here but it has happened and I believe we all need to be rational and not become a mob like the one that crucified the Christ. When I make a mistake I only have to be reminded once and if I'm wise I'll know the Truth and do my best to correct it. I believe Bryan is a wise man and he knows much more than he is given credit for. It does not matter if he is a scam artist or not, do you really think that is going to make a difference in rather you get your money back or not? What does matter is that we all keep our heads about us and be positive to try with our Hearts as well as our minds and be helpful instead of destructive. I know how easy it is to stir up a mob mentality and create great harm---The greatest countries in the world have fallen and as much as I hate to say it, I believe so will the ones that are in power now. Haste makes waste, there are many sayings that make so much sense and they all came from people that experienced failure and realized what caused their misfortune, lets not reinvent those failures. I'm not a perfect one by any means and I can assure you that none here are either but as human beings we do have a choice and mine is to be full of Love, understanding and a willingness to do what is right that as many people will come out on the other end of this misfortune to the better whatever that better might be. Bryan I believe your are a man of honesty, integrity with good Heart and mind and you have tried very hard to do the right things. I know how hard it is to go through what your going through. It is not a good thing to take others attitudes personal but to understand that their feelings are true and therefore must be dealt with. Much thought should be given before any statements are made so as to give the most positive inducement and those statements should come occasionally. I believe your best is yet to come and you must keep your head about you also and we all are counting on you as the captain of this ship a vessel you set us all on sail with called PIPS! What a Great ship it is and I envision a fleet of them. WE all make mistakes as are sins and we can and are forgiven our sins or mistakes. Don't be afraid, Live the truth until death, stand up and let the Truth be known for you have created a positive in this world that when it takes hold the world WILL change for the positive and there WILL be even greater things to come from those who were given the opportunity to be a member of this Great ship called PIPS!

God Is The Word and The Word Is Truth and The Truth Is Love!

Hi Guys,
Enough is enough. Give BM some slack!

I have been reading only from the time this forum opened and this area of the forum is very distressing now. I believe the intial intention was good in keeping PIPs members informed, thanks to Marek.

I will be losing a healthy sum of money in PIPs if it were to eventually go down, but there were not any guarantees made to me. I had it all planned out for my wife to say a hearty goodbye to her job at the close of 2005. That plan was shattered, not because of PIPs, but Sept 2005, her job was made redundant. They acted before me. Do I blame the company?
Wow, what a revelation: Even someone's job is not guaranteed.

Things do happen that we do not have control over, and even if we do, we must still apply wisdom with every decision.

I continued to make a few more risky, but careful decisions, with some of my wife's payoff monies, but this time learning from my PIPs experience and a few others before, which are nowhere around.
Fortunately for me, I got three goldmines, at least for the time being.

My wife is comfortably at home, and has been from Sept 2005, doing a course in Human Relations and Personnel Management with Cambridge. I was able through PIPs prior, to 95% finish my home (with two apartments for rent).

The wise man Solomon, Puts it this way:
As you do not know what is the way of the wind, Or how the bones grow in the womb of her who is with child, So you do not know the works of God who makes everything. 6 In the morning sow your seed, And in the evening do not withhold your hand; For you do not know which will prosper, Either this or that, Or whether both alike will be good. Eccl 11:5

I could stay here and chat with you guys, but honestly I don't have much time to do so. I myself, am finishing up my *******.
However,
Why don't we begin to accept some repsonsibility for our own actions, rather than casting blame elsewhere. Learn from this in all our future business ventures. This is what I have done, and moved on.

Bryan says, when he has an update he will post it, let's not grope here with lots of destructive remarks, but rather let's use this forum to inspire and encourage, even those that are affected because of the investigation and help them pave a way forward, so another three months are not going to go by without them seeing some results.

For who knows, which way the wind will blow?

Regards

Come on guys, get off the poor man's back! We will just have to be patient a bit longer - he's doing everything he can and I don't for one minute believe there is any criminal activity going on as far as Bryan is concerned. He wants this to work as much as we do. A bit of support and less belly-aching would be nice.

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Originally Posted by wave

Marek,

You are way out of line here, first contacting BON in the first
place, and then questioning Bryans evaluation of what is the
best way to deal with the situation.

You ask how asking BON for an update can slow down the process?
Let me aks you this, where have you been the last year?

This is EXCACTLY what has happened with various banks, Speedywallet
and more. When thousands of people start calling their switchboard, they
dropped PIPS like a stone to water.

Oh, excuse me, you think maybe it would not be so many people calling BON?
Well how could you possibly control and administer this? If it starts to spin,
it will get out of control, and when Bryan contacts them for an update
or to participate in the process to speed things up, he will hear that they
are tired of PIPS members contacting them all the time, and that he needs
to wait for them to call him when they have something to report.

Surely, this is not a dream situation for anyone. I don't like to wait more
than anyone.

BUT, we have trusted Bryan this far, and believe me, if we turn on him now
to do some Marek-based revolt to "speed things up" I can assure you the
whole thing will collapse faster than you can spell C-H-A-O-S.

Marek, you are the Admin of this forum, not an know-all leader.
Speaking for myself, I did not join your Forum because you are the voice of
reason and experience within PIPS. Bryan is. Know your place, and leave
these things to Bryan. You will only make things worse.

>wave

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If everyone was paid like they were supposed to be paid,
nobody would complain

but NOBODY EVER RECEIVED ANY MONEY FOR THE PAST 14 MONTHS

Dear Bryan,

I am sorry to say - I am disapointed.

When you visited Norway, nearly 2 years ago - you said: I have millions of friends around the world at THE MOMENT, but if everything goes wrong - I will have millions of enemies. You also said that only a crack in the market, like in 1935, could ruin this, your plan and wish - PIPS

So, therefore I am not able to understand where has all the money gone?
You say that friends have to take care of you, etc. You fail to give any comments or rather to put us (the Pipsters) a weekly comment on how things are going/working/not working.

I still don`t understand how all this with the Government etc. has not come to an answer, good or bad.

Good Luck to you and to All of us!!!!

figaro

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Originally Posted by mrlover

Ok BM HAS NO JOB, MONEY, CAR AND A HOME BUT HE HAS PIPS AND ALL OUR MONEY TOO AND US WE WILL LOSE OUR HOMES, CARS, JOBS AND FAMILIES BECAUSE OF PIPS.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT TO LET MR. BM KNOW THAT WE ARE IN THE BOAT TOGETHER SO TRY TO GET OUR MONEY FOR US PLEASE.

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Read the classic book "The Success System that NEVER fails" by the late W. Clement Stone, who managed Napoleon Hill, author of "Think and Grow Rich!"

He said: "In order for a philosophy to be alive, YOU must live it! What do you do when there is no place to turn and the walls are closing in?" This is what Clem Stone did:

1. He went on his knees and thanked God for all his blessings. (Gets the mind away from being sorry for onesself and to the creative positive side of one's thinking - read "Think and Grow Rich"!)
2. Set positive goals - even "impossible" ones. (Napoleon Hill cut the word "impossible" out of his dictionary - said there is no such word!)
3. Get into action - but only creative positive action - not whining, complaining, crying, "poor-little-me" - like a baby!
4. What could all the supporters of PIPS do if they formed a massive united positive force of LOVE???
5.Answer: convince the authorities - all of them - to let Bryan put right all that is not 100%, and make EVERYBODY HAPPY!!!

Isn't that what governments are supposed to do- serve the people?

Great answer, but for some people is above of their level of understanding.

OK People

I think it's time a few home truth's came out!

1) I work as a financial investigator. If the local police, government or any other local authorities gain a Restraining Order, they can freeze everything in their own jurisdiction regarding Bank Accounts. However, they have to supply the account holders with a legitimate amount of money per week to live.

2) If the accounts are frozen, WHO THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO SUE!!!!! DDDDUUUUHHHHH THE MONEY IS FROZEN. IT CANT BE USED. NO DINERO, NO EUROS, NO DOLLARS, NO MULAH, NO MONEY!!!!!

3) I would leave everything alone. Beleive me, AN INVESTIGATION INTO AN ACCOUNT WILL NOT SPEED UP BECAUSE SOMEONE PHONES UP. THE RESTRAINING ORDER IS REPLENISHED EVERY 90 DAYS UNTIL THE INVESTIGATION IS CONCLUDED.

4) You will not get any information from anyone because if the BON was found to have been running a companies account that was not legitimate, they will be fined in the extremist sense especially in this day of money laundering, terrorism etc...

5) You were warned on the front page of the P**S website that you shouldn't invest more than you could afford .. Yes i feel for the desperate that did. IF YOU WANT BRYAN TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS ACTIONS....SO SHOULD YOU!!!!!!!

If you want to try and sue bryan, why not send all your money to me and i will represent you. You might as well let me spend your money without being able to do anything rather than pay a fat cat lawyer who will be rubbing his hands together and licking his lips thinking about the 20,000 dollars that you have just paid him.

In fact better still, roll your $ bills up and smoke them. You might get a bit more worth out of them.

Face Facts, if Bryan doesn't want to say anything, he wont. ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO CATCH HIM.

:toofunny: LOL...BETTER STILL ASK YOUR LAWYER.....LOL LOL HA HA:toofunny:

AND BEFORE ANYONE SHOOTS ME DOWN, YES I DID HAVE MONEY IN THE PROGRAM. I JUST CHOOSE TO LET MATTERS ALONE AND WHEN BRYAN IS READY (IF HE DOES OR IF HE CAN) WE WILL ALL FIND OUT.

Pablos

P.S If you want my paypal address to send your money to, just PM me!!!

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Originally Posted by Admin

(...) i am afraid i dont agree with you on the part where you say it will slow things down! Explain how please?

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Marek... it's always interesting to reverse a question too...
How could this speed up the ongoing procedure(s)? *Question* imho is: does it *solve* anything. And imho it doesn't. Imho... and please don't take this personal but... from the very beginning I really wondered what you or anyone for that matter could do better than the Swedish Embassy. (Which was my answer to a similar idea at TG too btw.)
Anyway... I guess reality has answered this issue by now :wink:.

And... to at least answer your own question in some way too: I guess an office won't work faster when they get telephone calls from people asking how things are going. Imho for them, this is just a 'bother' and not a stimulation at all. Some other interesting thoughts can be found in the 'joining of pips 2004' thread too.

ps So I agree with pwmpablos, 4profit,... and those others I didn't manage to read the contributions of... but...

MAREK: DON'T TAKE THIS (imho serious and maybe too impulsive mistake) WORSE THAN IT IS. Done is done. People do make mistakes. And... as far as I'm concerned (except when this was the drop that make the case turn down ;)) it's an easily forgiven one.

Take care,
Hasse

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Originally Posted by MrClean

Maybe Marek did not slow anything down directly, but for each claim made on the net like this, there can be hundreds or thousands of follow up calls made by others to "verify" the information Marek posted!

You would think that by now we all would have learned this...

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i'm glad there are atleast a few who get it.

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Originally Posted by newlife

Great answer, but for some people is above of their level of understanding.

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1) Newlife, why do you always have to make these smart a** remarks for? Why can't you just take people here for who they are, some don't have the same opinion as you so just get used to it and leave it alone.:mad:

2) Merek I think what you did was great.I look at it as not slowing the process down, but actually speeding it up. Thank you for what you did and I support you on this 100%.:woohoo:

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Originally Posted by 4profit

There you have it.
You single handedly made all the BM bashers crawl out fom under their rocks.

You turned this, supposedly, supportive forum into one that is full of agression.
Agression against BM, agression against BNM.

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Yeah it is all Mareks fault...:rolleyes: Give me a break you sound like BM trying to blame others when in fact IF BRYAN WOULD HAVE KEPT IN COMMUNICATION THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED!

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Originally Posted by 4profit

The answers you got from BNM do not hold any new information other than that they are still investigating, which is contrary to what we heard from the Swedish guys.Pity you did this and it is bad to see what happened to this forum during the last few months.

Poul

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4profit
I have to disagree. Of course there was something new. This is what was new!

1)We NOW KNOW because of Mareks call that the investigation is going to
the prosecutors office and then continue from there. (doesnt sound
good to me) So therefore we know this is not going to be over for
loooooong time.

2) We now have an official statement that within the Pips businesses there
was not good business conduct. In other words business was not being
conducted properly therefore we can say it is implied that some illegal
things happened. Period.


So for all those who say, "we already knew this stuff" sorry but we did not. And this is new information that was needed as a sort of "closure", if you will, that his could go on and on for another year or two or longer!

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Originally Posted by Pippyman

Yeah it is all Mareks fault...:rolleyes: Give me a break you sound like BM trying to blame others when in fact IF BRYAN WOULD HAVE KEPT IN COMMUNICATION THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED!





4profit
I have to disagree. Of course there was something new. This is what was new!

1)We NOW KNOW because of Mareks call that the investigation is going to
the prosecutors office and then continue from there. (doesnt sound
good to me) So therefore we know this is not going to be over for
loooooong time.

2) We now have an official statement that within the Pips businesses there
was not good business conduct. In other words business was not being
conducted properly therefore we can say it is implied that some illegal
things happened. Period.


So for all those who say, "we already knew this stuff" sorry but we did not. And this is new information that was needed as a sort of "closure", if you will, that his could go on and on for another year or two or longer!

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Look, this is what the latest BON reply says "...we found some business practices which in our opinion are not proper. Now we will do the next step in the investigative process which is turn over our findings to the legal department so they can decide if these findings merit any kind of legal action."

Regardless of what you imagine it says, that is really all it says. For all we know the findings may be some overlooked regulatory statutes and P*IPS will be hit with some fines. But there is no way any rational thinker can conclude this statement implies any criminal conduct or corruption which is precisely what many are implying that it says.

The previous BON responses said basically the same thing ..." we are finishing up our investigation and will be sending our findings to the prosecutors office"

"strong belief of bad business conduct" could mean anything, especially coming from a person who doesn't use english as their main language.

what everyone is forgetting is that if the withdrawls would have ben paid on time...or in a timely fashion...probably non of this would b happening.....if i had money in a bank and i would write a check....or ask for a withdrawl...and 8 months later i still was'nt able to cash that check...or withdraw my money.....what would u do??/....yea....right...the same thing the so called anti-pippsters did....alert authorities.....its squarely on Bryan's shoulders...and no one else...if he would have paid members like he should have non of this would b happening...IMHO.....blame who is to blame.....Pat...oh...and P.S....i only invested what i had to....but that does'nt change anything...if i'm owed money,iwant to b paid..just like anything else

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Originally Posted by mdrumins

Read the classic book "The Success System that NEVER fails" by the late W. Clement Stone, who managed Napoleon Hill, author of "Think and Grow Rich!"

He said: "In order for a philosophy to be alive, YOU must live it! What do you do when there is no place to turn and the walls are closing in?" This is what Clem Stone did:

1. He went on his knees and thanked God for all his blessings. (Gets the mind away from being sorry for onesself and to the creative positive side of one's thinking - read "Think and Grow Rich"!)
2. Set positive goals - even "impossible" ones. (Napoleon Hill cut the word "impossible" out of his dictionary - said there is no such word!)
3. Get into action - but only creative positive action - not whining, complaining, crying, "poor-little-me" - like a baby!
4. What could all the supporters of PIPS do if they formed a massive united positive force of LOVE???
5.Answer: convince the authorities - all of them - to let Bryan put right all that is not 100%, and make EVERYBODY HAPPY!!!

Isn't that what governments are supposed to do- serve the people?

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Originally Posted by newlife

Great answer, but for some people is above of their level of understanding.

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Yes, so true. As an insurance and investment agent, I am amazed that so many do things backwards. For example: if you go into a store, and see that certain items have a low price, or special discount, you buy! If you see others have increased in price, you ignore. But when people look for good investments, and see that one has done well and increased in price - they BUY!

Perhaps this famous classic will tell others how I see OUR Bryan:

" If (Rudyard Kipling)

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son! "

You are indeed a great man, Bryan - IMHO

Marek,
I feel that what you did was necessary in order to diffuse a potentially disasterous situation. For that, I applaud you. As for the BN investigation, is it not entirely possible that BN is looking at a few situations of "Not Good Business"? Also, is it not possible that BN is looking at a few other individuals whose responsibility it was to make certain that all I's were dotted and all T's crossed, all funds going to those it was intended for, etc? These are but a few logical assumptions one could make, given the fact that Bryan and Sharon are not incarcerated, and are still allowed to communicate with us, the investors. Look a little deeper, think a little more about the situation as a whole, and above all, know that eventually the truth will be known to all.

Just my thoughts (for quite some time now)

regards,
treasurhunter1

Someone in this thread said that. "What i posted was twisted wrongly, and even if posted what i meant with the Q.A etc etc...People just continue to speculate, etc etc...."

4profit:, if you read what i posted, you wouldnt post what you posted.
anyway. i also said that i truley am sorry if i hurt anybodies feelings with what i posted. I just posted what i heard.

HERE IS SOMETHING YOU MISSED OR DIDNT UNDERSTAND.

link:http://www.rolclub.com/showthread.php?t=5745

its also posted in the thread with BM's latest update in as second post, aswell as announced all over RC.

THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED! LETS KEEP THE NEGATIVITY UNDER CONTROLL. WHAT WILL YOU GET BY IT? THINK ABOUT IT. WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING, PIPS TO COME BACK DONT WE?

WE NEED TO GET ON TRACK WITH RC AGAIN. I WILL TRY TO DO MY BEST.
I JUST CAME BACK AFTER 3 weeks my self.

I WILL KEEP AN EYE OPEN GUYS.

REGARDS

MAREK