I just need construtive wars to follow not teases or opinions .,not anyone .,
unless people behave ruthless i wont make a comment on them ., say for micky or fluffy didn't behave well as i sought not to do so .,if they had anything constructive sure I can have.,
But I think opinions are not teases and with tease u may lack info .,
sorry mods and friends If you find me anywhere quarelling for constructive posts..... I never hate opinions I wish them ., but not with a silly touch and making teases make me fed up., I am strong with this point ., shell no compromise in this matter .,
AGAIN TO TEASERS I NEED ONLY CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM., NOT TEASE., IF ANYONE FINDS TO TEASE MEANS SURE LACK OF INFO WILL PROVIDE ., I AM TRYING MY BEST TO CLEAR OUT RUMOURS DON'T STAND LIKE TG TROLLS HERE .,
PLEASE DO THINK IF I HAD ANYTHING ILL COMMITTED WHEN A CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM TAKES PLACE .,
ALSO I REQUEST MODS;
TO WATCH OVER AND IF ANYTHING FOUND GUILTY ON MY SIDE OKAY THEN CARRY ON LOCKING THE TOPIC ELSE EDIT THE TEASERS TOPIC ., SURE I HATE TEASING ., I EXPRESS THIS FRANK.,
please warn me else warn those teasers inside .,certainly i can't agree with that.,I cannot think teasers to be laureates., and sure about that .,
I do understand well that knowledge is not limited to certain things and its growing and not yet saturated ., I learn day by day ., learning is a sequential process if anyone needs to clarify sure check the word Novice in the dictionary and find its meaning.,
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23-08-2005, 06:49 AM #1
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hi nair.
is there any PROOF that pic-pay is or is not backed by gold in australia?
thanks.
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23-08-2005, 06:58 AM #3
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Go ahead Nair, just spill out the beans as your perspectives phrase it and don't get "caught up" with the issue(s) by reiterating your position or points presented. Just carry on with the next. Goodluck.
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Dear Nair,
this is the latest update from billy.
can you please put your comments on it as it says that it will take months to clear pips.
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I wanted to get this out to you quickly because so much speculation and
misinformation tends to keep floating around regarding PIPS in it's
current state. Some information says that Bryan and Sharon have been
arrested and is totally negative,, while others were putting out
information that they though PIPS would be back online and operating early
this week... and have a new payment platform ready to start and hundreds of
millions of dollars that they are about to have released to them to get
members paid... WRONG WRONG WRONG... people on both ends of the extreme
tend to be just that..... EXTREME... I just wanted to give everyone a
brief update.. and then again we hope for the best..plan for the
alternative.. and move forward knowing that if Bryan manages to pull PIPS
forward in one way, shape or form, it will still be in our group of
programs.. but we will have enhanced it with diversification and if the
worst happens.. we are moving forward and it becomes more of a
disappointing annoyance rather than a devastating blow.
Anyway..rather than saying that I have it from a knowledgeable source...
I will start with this .....Bryan Marsden called me last night. Yes that
is right and it was a surprise..but I got to speak with him for a while.
We had a reasonably good conversation and he gave me an update on where
everything stands and wanted members to know that he is working diligently
this week to see what he can do to get things done to preserve what can be
preserved and see if he can get a restructuring approved by Bank Negara so
that the enterprise can move forward in an altered form with the
permission of Bank Negara.
As I said. the conversation was a bit generalized but I anticipate being
able to speak with Bryan again this week to follow up and try to keep
informed on what is going on. This email will be general and later this
evening I will try to give a bit more specific information but that
information will need to be private and will therefore only be able to be
placed in the members area of the BreakThroughs site. However this email
and other follow ups WILL be enough to keep you pretty much up to date on
what I learn from Bryan if he continues contact with me.
OK.. General update... Again.. to be simple about it.. it is that my
updates of the 18th and 19th ( actually both the 18th I think) were on the
mark and a good summary of what the current status is. Here are some
other Facts as Bryan stated them
1. He has not been arrested . When I asked if he had been arrested. he
said "Well I bloody well couldn't be calling you right now if I had"
2. The servers have been taken...and PIPS and PicPay and PIPS AID are all
down... Negara wants to go through the records on the servers to see
if there in fact have been any violations or anything to validate
claims made in Letters to Bank Negara. Bryan was looking to meet with
them today and throughout the week to show cooperation with the
investigation and also to see if the servers could be put back online
during any investigation so that other areas of the business will not be
negatively impacted as PicPay and PIPS would be thoroughly gone through.
No new members taken and those areas staying down while Bryan could work
with Bank Negara to answer questions .. make sure they fully understand it
and then explore the restructuring that he would like to propose to see if
it could meet approval.
3. Some people were reporting that PIPS would be back online this week I
asked Bryan and he said that is highly unlikely. He would hope he got get
them to put servers back online this week but he will not venture what the
odds would be and said that we can't count on it.
4. He was terribly upset at the prospect that after speaking with me ..the
next thing he had to do was meet with the staff and furlough them until
further notice
We talked a bit about the various divisions and I asked him about the
restaurant development and real estate purchases etc about funds frozen
with processors and banks etc and in general terms that is still a
problem and as he saw it was still the primary problem that exists that
hampered getting payments to members. I also addressed the PicPay and
merchant problems that had caused some of this action and how just more
communication could have possibly prevented a good amount of this.. but
that was more conversational rather than a "tongue lashing" of any sort.
I would like to see something salvaged of this so a restructured business
could continue and provide benefit to the members.
5. Bryan hopes that in meeting with Bank Negara and answering questions
and educating them as to all the details of how funds were spent/invested,
the problems and challenges faced, the viable and profitable divisions
that have been built and how everything at present could be restructured
to satisfy the issues and solve the problems that had been Plaguing PIPS
that and do it all with the approval of Bank Negara. However there is no
telling at this point what will happen.
It is in Bank Negara's hands right now.. Bryan said it could take
weeks.. it could take months depending on how meetings go with them and
what they decide is their posture on what they desire the outcome to be.
So don't look for any quick solutions.. don't believe that there is a
payment platform ready to go .. with funds soon to be released.. ( Bryan
said that he doesn't know where that information or any of those figures
are coming from and that it is total misinformation)..
Bryan said that all that can really be said is that things are in Bank
Negara's hands right now and he is working diligently to resolve the
issues.. get the servers back online even if only to serve the related
businesses so that they their records and operating systems. and that he
will do everything in his power to work see if the enterprise can be
preserved.
It is my opinion that if a restructuring, compliant with Bank Negara and
requiring no further funding from members could be put in place, and that
Bryan is convinced he can do it.. under the supervision of Bank Negara I
would like to see him get a shot at it. As we know, that would probably
require the assistance of consultants, possibly new management etc.. all
things put in place to ensure compliance etc. Actually it is possible
that if members were to dash of a quick note to Bank Negara in support of
some bank supervised restructuring in the interest of members recovering
losses and and having some ongoing enterprise that is transparent and
compliant and can be structured to the benefit of all involved, perhaps
there is positive that could come from all this. Those who had real
problems got to write Bank Negara and rightfully so. but perhaps those
who support restructure should have voices heard with them too. Always
good to get both sides right?
I will see if I can provide the appropriate information later this
evening in the members area or more likely the FORUM of BreakThroughs
later this evening. Please don't write me and ask me for it as I have
been receiving hundreds and hundreds of emails lately and cannot respond
to any request if you do make one..
Now remember.. even if you choose to dash something off in support of
restructure or read this and get concerned.. do it and then GET OFF IT
and move to productive things.. IT IS WHAT IT IS and we have to
continue to diversify...
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23-08-2005, 10:49 AM #5
Hi friends and sana
Regarding Irishbilly's post ;
That was exactly what I meant and nothing new with it ., had I made anything different .,
I meant exactly the same info as said ., it's Bryan who gave the proposal that things will work on sunday ., but later he expressed a staff meet on monday., and that thing happened.,
bank negara's approval to his decisions are awaited and it will take time is what I mentioned.,
ONE THING DON'T PANIC WITH FAIZAL'S MAIL., FREEZING OF FUNDS IS COMMON WHEN A INVESTIGATION GOES THROUGH THIS DOES NOT MEAN THE BANK HAD FOUND GUILTY.,
IF FOUND GUILTY THEY CAN'T CONVENE MEETINGS AND DO their own way of expressing facts and meets with authorities; instead the authorities will meet them .,and both Bryan and sharon are allowed to express their points on investigation., But time factors are uncertain to the current ambience.,
SO DON'T SUSPECT THE OUTCOME WILL BE BETTER NOT TO SAY LIKE IRISHBILLY .,NOT JUST A POSITIVE AFFIRMATION., FACTS BEHIND.,
Just to reinstate; WE ARE SAFE WITH BRYAN AND WITH BANK NEGARA.
The authority to perform a financial check untill the investigation is over is carried on., don't worry and don't panic., Not to say a word about faizal., he doesn't deem fit ., though one of his points were true., funds freezed for general safety and if released then it will create more problems to Bryan right now;
They would claim that the funds released would be mis-appropriated with Bryan's supporters., HENCE ITS SAFE WITH BANK NEGARA RIGHT NOW AND WE HAVE AUTHORITY TO CLAIM IT IF BANK NEGARA OPPOSES THE PLANS AND USUALLY THE CENTRAL BANKS WILL MAKE A RELEASE OF FUNDS AFTER INVESTIGATION IS BEING DONE.
SO NOTHING TO WORRY IS MY POINT ., IF U BELEIVE ME DO CARE .,the worthwhile point.
one thing to quote PIPS MEMBER DATABASE ARE NOT THAT SILLY TO ANALYSE CROSSING OVER 100000. HENCE KEEP PATIENCE ., THE AUTHORITIES WOULD TAKE TIME ANALYSING THESE DATA BASES WITH THE GIVEN PROOF.
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23-08-2005, 01:40 PM #6
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That sums up very nicely where it seems we are at. I wonder if it would be possible to build a petition with a statement from the members on this forum that we could send in? I feel its the least we could do (Certainly would not do any harm to our chances), but i dont know the logistics of how to organise it via the forum. Write a statement, have everyone write in support, print and send?
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Re: Hi friends I NEED ONLY CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM
http://www.rolclub.com/viewtopic.php?t=1982
Apparently you still don't see how you treated some members in your last posts. Instead of saying sorry for YOUR insults you have the nerve to again start a hypocritical "Oh help, I'm attacked, I'm attacked" thread :?
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23-08-2005, 02:18 PM #8
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micky thank you once again for an utterly piontless,
useless post. You definitely win the award for the most
pathetic post of the month. Congratulations!!! Keep 'em
coming buddy...you're a laugh a minute.
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23-08-2005, 02:20 PM #9
Dear Shell or yogibrood
http://www.rolclub.com/viewtopic.php?t=1982
Apparently you still don't see how you treated some members in your last posts. Instead of saying sorry for YOUR insults you have the nerve to again start a hypocritical "Oh help, I'm attacked, I'm attacked" thread .....
This is what I hear again from the member "micky".
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Now u can do after analysing what I did .,
please do the needful Mods., neigther the thread meant is meaningful nor of any use., I hate teasers again.,
I didn't bade an apology for whom I meant as teasers., That's not my point .,
Rather than speaking myself mods can take action If something is committed wrong on my part.,Again he began...
If mods can't make this out means give me the chance to speak ., as his character seems to be treated., he calls me and behaves like some on the other forum., he says I am making cries over to rescue from this fellow ., If mods don't action means sure I have to make my own words .,
I seek him to voice his opinion regarding pips and not a tease , nor a follow up on tease., sure that tease made me post and this will continue if he doesn't change his attitude in the forum.sure after analysis his attitudes seems to be a tease and howl.
I hate teasing, again, I am making this to you mods ., sure this is the manner to behave in the forum as I did earlier., this is just not a constructive war and certainly idiocies on teasing should be curbed .,
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23-08-2005, 02:33 PM #10
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You're complete ignorant!! It WAS NOT ME who insulted members as novices, presenting myself as the only one who knows everything and telling members to shut up, telling others that they are uneducated, silly etc. PLEASE read all of his posts and then come back again and post a counter argument, ok?!?
Did you understand that? I fear not, same that Nair didn't understand how he sometimes communicates to members, namely sometimes in a rude way which may well appear as arrogant and ignorant. I say once again Nair, your infos are much appreciated and valuable (if they're true) BUT STOP telling others to shut up if they have a different opinion, or tell them that they are not educated, silly or novices. Everybody is in some way in any part a novice. Btw, you are also a NOVICE in regard to english language! I only understand half of what you write. :-) So stop throwing with stones when sitting in a glashouse, buddy. ;-)
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