I have about close to 7 million USD now in PicPay. :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamer
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I have about close to 7 million USD now in PicPay. :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamer
theBat$
Interesting,Quote:
Originally Posted by thebat$
You are lucky, the money in picpay is backed by all that gold in AU. LOL Funny, the only gold that ever came out of Bryan's mouth were perhaps in his teeth, and we all know what happened to them, also lost. (g)
Good luck to all, Mike
Be careful Mike,you might upset Chin-lee again :toofunny:Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com
:biggrin: ...aaaand, this silver gum keeps coming back though Bond remains unstirred despite abit shaken...:rofl:
It's great seeing those of you enjoying having your laughs at others expense. Thanks to you all.
Looks like we could just let everything run its course and see what happens. The constant slamming of Bryan, Sharon and the direct postings to seemingly upset the ones who still hold out hope offers no help in bringing a close to this turmoil that is PIPS.
And whats further disturbing is the moderators who seem to be right at the top of these type post. While I hold nothing against anyone, no matter which side of the fence they fall on regarding PIPS, I just see no reason for the constant harassing that has occured in recent months.
While ROL has seemingly turned from a pro-PIPS to an Anti-PIPS forum, there are still some who frequent the board and were drawn here because of the support of PIPS that Marek offered to members of the program back when ROL was born. It seems so detrimental to now throw barbs at those members everyday with the attack on the Marsdens and anyone else that still holds out hope for a positive out come.
No matter if ones dreams still include the rise from the ashes of PIPS or not......ROL and the ones who have accepted the positions of moderating our forum could certainly go along way in promoting to all that strength can be found and gained even when moving through the hardships of life and in specific PIPS or any other program that one might have sank their dreams into. I ask that all look within their heart and soul and find the need to offer support to all, not just to those that share the same sentiment.
thanks for your time and know that during this special time of year for many of us, I offer only the best of wishes to everyone and hope and pray that the approaching new year helps each of us find the right path to reaching our dreams.
PB
Removed - please try and keep it a bit nicer out of respect to everyone,
Thanks,
-Nej
I was speaking about Bryan Marsden and I have no respect for him at all. What is there to respect about him?
He is a scammer......always has been, always will be. If you are going to delete my post then I respectfully request that you remove all of the ra ra cheerleader posts as well. Lets run the forum fairly or dont run it all!
MARSDEN IS A SCAMMER!! I think that is pretty clear by now!
PipsBeliever,
You may think it unfair to upset those who still have hope? But it is also unfair to try and offer false hope when all the logical evidence suggests there is none.
As for laughing, it is a human nature to cover up one's hurt with laughter sometimes. It helps ease the pain of the lost money and the broken dreams.
nej,
It is my opinion that neither those who believe completely in a favorable outcome or those who believe completely in PIPS demise and that members were scammed intentially will waver from their respective positions.
However, I just see no good that can come out of the constant barbs thrown from one side at the other. Neither side will have their day (when it is finally confirmed) until the legal forces of Malaysia and God only knows whoelse turns the Marsden's and PIPS inside out and upside down and concludes one way or another if there were acually wrong doings or not.
Personally, I would just like to see a cease fire in the constant war of words between the two sides. I do think that there are some still holding middle ground and awaiting to see how all of this shakes out.
I have no wish to battle with you or anyone else over this....I just decided to state my opinion about the *war of words* that has been ongoing now for too long. There is no doubt that the anti crowd have superior numbers here, and have definatly been very verbal in a somewhat taunting manner towards those few who seem to just as pasionatly believe in a bright future for PIPS.
Other than now being a mostly reading member of ROL, I have no more right to demand or even believe that any favorable action towards the cease fire will ever take place, but its nice to be able to air my opinion and hope that a better forum can be achieved by those who might lay aside their words aimed to enrage others, no matter which side the target!
be well my friend,
PB
Bryan and Sharon have earned it, they have been charged with over 100 FELONIES, most are pissed that is all he's charged with because if what has been alleged is true then he should be charged with a hell of alot more.Quote:
Originally Posted by PIPSBeliever
There is BILLIONS missing from the Pips investment, actually there has been no sign of any investment actually happening...there is also been no mention of Bryan's promised INSURANCE on the principal, remember that one? People would of been paid already if this LIE were true
Bryan was arrested and found with assets in the 17 million dollar range which is about right if he was running a ponzi.( not investing just collecting ) And is currently charged with fraudulently transferring millions upon millions of PIC PAY monies to his and Sharon's own personal accounts. This all the while he was not honoring withdrawals to the actual account holders.
To clear himself Bryan would have to
1: show he had 5-6 billion in a working investment making 1.8 % per day.
2: he would need to show he has that 100 million insurance policy
3: produce 2-300 million in gold to cover his Pic pay liabilities
4: prove that the millions upon millions he was transferring to himself was not fraudulent
I do not believe ANY of these thing will happen, therefor I believe there is NO HOPE of any type of positive outcome so get on with it and get on with life make your decisions appropriately.
I also believe that many of you PRO Pips or Bryan types kept this ponzi going longer than it should have because YOU WANTED to believe no matter what the known facts were. You'll never be arrested or charged with a crime but really are as guilty in my book as Bryan causing many to believe in PIPS and still invest long after it was actually dead.
Your money, my money, all our monies are gone, let us now pray for JUSTICE...
boatman,
I am neither Pro or Anti but have decided to land in the middle and wait for an outcome.
I do not appreciate you assuming that I am a "Pro Pips or Bryan type" and accusing me of being guilty of doing anything in this dreadful saga.
My nic in here is the one I signed up with back when I first joined ROL. Back when the forum was made up mostly of Pro PIPS members. As I said, I now am mostly a reading member and choose to await the completed outcome of the story.
Also, I have always tried to remain nuetral towards anyone charged with anything until proven guilty in a court of law, regardless of what the seemingly *known facts* are.
I accept your opinion on the matter of PIPS and Bryan, as that is your right....
be well....
PB
You have stated yr position well and rightfully as did many in your situation as the many more who openly expressed distress and anger without compulsion.
Coming forward to disclose your stance is one we shall all give respect to and in return, you gain full freedom to do likewise if you so choose, here on the RC forum.
You are not invited to jump on board or bequeth your sentiments wholeheartedly should you someday discover the truth after justice will prove us all right or wrong with our assumptions and calls for due justice to be taken should BM be found guilty of hois deception on all concerned.....including you, a pips believer back then.
We take no pleasure, it may appear that way, but NOT FOR ME as this I say here to all...I don't take pleasure in taunting or deploring what BM now is...for the time being however, we are all on sail to see what it shall be when the ship finally berths... and the truth is read out when all is on shore to accept the verdict!
If any of you who feel passionate and still wonders how on earth you are still spared to ommit here amidst most you regard as anti-pips....well, thats because you want to feel and view that way which is WRONG to begin with.
I see you no less but disrespect others with their views with unacceptable outbursts or lace with vulgarity of profanity...OUT YOU GO...ban!
No exception...so are we bias???... search for Styles and he's a perfect sample to our cause in allowing fairness here!
Say what you want, feel or think...and like me, I welcome you onboard nonetheless! :bow:
YB. - cheers...:beer:
Maybe chin-lee can enlighten us about those islands being bought in the South Pacific that were for retirement and time share communities. Say, maybe that is where the money is hidden.
I mean, BM said so at the Las Vegas Convention, so it has to be true.
Well, it is approaching the season of goodwill for many of us.Time perhaps to put our differences aside over the festive season.
Greetings to all :cheers:
Had forgotten about that one. What a web of lies and deceit . It is amazing all that Bryan made up just to perpetuate this fraud, so openly so brazen too, speaking these things in person at the many conventions. How the heck did he ever think it would end?Quote:
Originally Posted by LynnRE
He really must have somthing wrong in the head, he must.
Sorry for including you as one of the Pro pips types clearly re-reading your posts you are not. I can also appreciate your waiting for a outcome from the trial. I happen to think enough is known to have an opinion or belief in their guilt. That is not a finding of guilt. Personally, to be completely honest I hope Bryan wins and vindicates himself and we all end up rich.Quote:
Originally Posted by PIPSBeliever
I just don't think that is possible, because of what is known today ( the math is ridiculous )and that giving others false hope is worse than having no hope at all. Which many of the Pro Pips people do, give false hope.
I'll drink to that. :cheers: (just rootbeer) :biggrin: Happy Holidays to Admin, Yogi, Raditz, Neno, Nej, Nanni and all Mods. Not forgetting all my friends here Bob, Ox, Jimmy, CCgideon, Kozmar, Pieapple, Thelema, Dreamer, Geosphere and more, you know who you are! My best wishes also to PIPSBeliver, Chin-lee and your comrades.Quote:
Originally Posted by boatman
Peace to all.
theBat$
Peace and very Happy Holidays to you too good friend and to all of us; we sure have been through a lot together. Let this Solstice Season find all our hearts warmed and charmed with the precious love of our families and friends with a beautiful New Year to come! I'll be getting me a big frothy mug of Root Beer and joining you in the toast. As Yogi would say, Cheers!Quote:
Originally Posted by thebat$
Thelema
This is where & when I like this community within our membership of ROLClub. I have noticed the incredible interaction by MODs with members and the exchanges over all threads and issues...as oppose by many forums we get to distance away from esp. with the presence of MODs lurking about ....
It has become imperative and significant when MODs are involved so the mainstream of postees can feel they are not stepping out of line (although we do get some "odd ones" that deliberately does :blueh: ) but on the whole, MODs are just like any other member, NOT to police about with a badge to ban but to add support and kinship with mindset exchanged with member postees despite varying version of opinions which is expected and not regarded as hostile or being bias to another.
These latest new team of MODs will enhance more to this expectation to appreciate and be appreciated by members of either divide and I wish, on behalf of Admin, and all MODs and the ROLClub community... A Joyous and Merry Holiday mood in the coming weeks of festive celebrations which also include Christmas for being widely known throughout the world to be shared by everyone and it would be even more harmonious when you welcome another to even a glass to a toast at your next best opportunity, at home or by the pub...albeit him/her is from another religion or color or culture altogether!!! :party: :ro_emote:
Lets enjoy each other's company here as well and rekindle our differences despite our strong views on incidental issues we had experienced in the past... we can let it happen...WE WILL allow it to occur in our community for we all have a heart deep down to help and see another have just a good day for themselves....., somehow!
Cheers to all feeling this way and if those still struggling to come to grips with this retrospective openly task, look below and try scrumming that link, it is a ball that opens up the degree of your balance only you can take control of yourself while the rest continues with happiness and harmony by virtue of understanding and genuine exchanges.
YB. - cheers http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ads/Cheers.gifto you all and thanks for your support for ROLClub. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s/Cheers2U.gif
Thanks for the mention :)Quote:
Originally Posted by thebat$
Bless you and yours through-out this holiday season.
Kozmar
PS ADMIN where are the holiday smilies?
No matter what the stand on PIPS or where you come from, or where you go......we all share one thing that we were brought here by the hope that maybe PIPS would be different....OK, so it hasn't played out to be the world changing opportunity that at one time most thought it would be. However, it has brought together a very diverse and interesting mix of people who in their own way just want to find a better way to their dreams. A large number of members definatly show a passion for their beliefs, and are steadfast in protecting their stand.
If we all motivate ourselves to use that same burning passion towards good and just opportunities, then together we can celebrate a better day for everyone. May whatever paths you decide to take onward be full of success.
Happy Holidays to all and Best Wishes for a very Happy 2007!
PB
ps....thanks to Yogi for the kind words earlier and to boatman....everyone, no matter what they believe can co-exsist as long as we all respect the next as being a human being just trying to find their way through life.
ANYTHING can happen if you know what you want, take action, and don't let doubts get in your way!!!
Good thread,
No matter which side of the fence we are on regarding PIPS, we must all remember we were all brought together by Bryan, and for this I can and will thank him. Sadly, we will see another Christmas come and go with not one promise Bryan stated come to pass. Time to put all our differences aside and forget the differences of opinion and unite for the better. Friendships are far more important than PIPS broken dreams, so lets all forgive eachother for being of different opinions, and lets all be friends.
Happy Holiday Season to all, Mike
How very true Mike.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com
After 2 years of problems we have made a few friends ! :beer:
...and a new entertainment channel. And if you are interested in the phychology of financial behavour and the effects a financial fiasco has on peoples dreams then this is the forum to visit, study, learn and gain experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamer
I have come to realize how easy it is to create a cult, cheat, persuade and build a dream-world ,and based on the PIPS saga I have also understood why pepole like Mao, Stalin and Hitler were all so successful in gaining popularity.
hine
I did like Mao, preferred Lenin and only enjoyed watching Hitler as Chaplin courageously portrayed and felt Gorbatchov was a key twist that spun the 80's to history with the closing of the cold war.... but not once flinch on where we should poise ourselves against evil minds and power seeking leaders who were mainly on the path of greed with the common folks...:nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by the_truth
Good analogy there Hine, on those three:ro_emote:
YB.:beer:
Dear All,
I join the rest in wishing all of the RC members a merry x-mass and happy festive seasons.
On BM, I think he had a vision. He was an exellent marketeer. If not how did you join his scam programme? People joined PIPS boat to improve thier financial status. But alas!!!Many lost livelihood, are in debts, are still recovering from the bruises created by BM, families were broken, suicides were commited because of PIPS scam.
If there is anything I can remember PIPS for is the DRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAMMMMMMMMMMMMM on the one part that I am gona be rich by the end of 2005 (remember the simulation projection) and on the other part the virtual FRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHH HHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPPPP PPPPPPPPP.
Merry X-Mass and Kepp Hope Alive
Suicides?
Yes Suicides! in real terms
I can't say I heard of any.
Thanks for the update!
PIPS Merry Christmas Everyone.
PIPS certainly brought a lot of us together. In any large group there are always some dissenters who resort to unkind rhetoric and then there are those of us who realize that no one forced us to loan/invest any funds. We did so with a dream or for greed. Whatever the motive we beleived in Bryan (I still do though I have never met the man). I beleive that there were other forces involved that forced BM to take the action that they did.
The only weakness that I can perceive is that one could demand a withdrawal at any time. Think about it. If 1000 people demanded a return every day - that would mean 30000+ demands per month and that certainly would bog down most banks. This is/was part of the problem. That is why many of us could not get our funds. I guess we could hold this weakness against Bryan but I DO NOT for one minute think that he had any dishonorable intentions.
One good thing that has come out of this year of waiting is that I have learned a lot. Because of the friendships that I have made through PIPS, I have been exposed to a number of opportunities. I do more due-diligence and I'm not so quick to gamble again. However I did see one that by all signs seems to be a secure chance. You can check it out for yourself and see if there is something that you feel comfortable enough to try. It is not a get rich quick venture and it pays only 0.75% compounded interest daily. Rumor has it that this return will be reduced in the near future. Those with existing investments will be grand fathered in for the higher return. I did meet a couple of people that have withdrawn funds well in excess of their investment. I personally have not yet because of an imposed waiting period.
My site is https://www.globalonlinedepository.com/?ref= No ID's except where permitted, thank you, moderator
This waiting period reduces the payout workload. On top of that you can only demand a payout once or twice per month. I'm quite comfortable with this restriction.
God Bless us all
I'm not sure if this is good news or bad news, but I appreciate the update.
THANKS!!!
well...I don't post hardly at all any more....but for some ""PEOPLE"" on this thread to keep thinking that BRYAN going to court is :""STILL"" positive ......HELLO..........DO U HONESTLY THINK SOMEONE ELSE CAUSED HIS DEMISE?????????.......well if u do......I HAVE SOME WETLANDS SOUTH OF BILOXI, MS.....ITS CALLED THE ""GULF OF MEXICO"......I WILL GLADLY SELL IT TO U AT HALF PRICE.....and if the sale falls thru,I WILL BLAME IT ON EVERYONE ELSE AND U WILL HAVE A VERY HAPPY CHRISTMAS 2007....lol...Pat
so are they gonna force that xxxxxxxxxxx to give our money back or what?
I know how you feel but we have to be civil, just doing my job. - thebat$ *Edited for Language
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Originally Posted by bhealthy
No one forced us, but Bryan LIED his butt off to convince us of things that never were, which is why people invested...
SEE THE PROBLEM THERE?
THE ONLY WEAKNESS WAS TO MANY WITHDRAWALS??????
Guess you were not a Pips member because you could only withdraw monies EARNED. You could NEVER withdraw principal...NOT EVER.
Here is another ASS using God as a selling point and telling us how greedy we all are for investing in Pips and then asking us to believe in HIS, God fearing investment.
From my point of view I see 3 weaknesses.Quote:
Originally Posted by boatman
1) I trusted Bryan, even though his track record was poor.
2) I was drawn in by my own greed. It WAS too good to be true.
3) The percentage paid out was way beyond anything reasonable and that just fueled people to become even greedier.
I admit I was scammed by him but I only blame myself for being suckered.
I've said it before. It really was too good to be true. But didn't he say PicPay is safe? He told us its like money in the bank, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by SportsBroker.org
theBat$ m0nopoly m0ney.... :fryingpan
How rightfully perceived and every way in that path leads to inevitable truth.:ro_emote:Quote:
Originally Posted by SportsBroker.org
Ironically as it may sound but Bryan wanted the rest to believe there is a way out of his "box" and through his Convention(al) education lobbied during his PR travels, most attending decided to pick up the lessons and began "brokering" themselves into the box unaware, of the pit that lay within that awaits the greedy, the enterprising and the genuine victims that were about to be taken bait!!!
We brokered ourselves in with a strong belief and beguiled by more quality in life that was long dreamed for, regardless of all perils or sinister manipulations on the other side, we went for it and thus we have to accept the painful package that promised plenty but was in fact empty as our pockets became.... it was in fact pilfered by unaccounted account(s) that are currently verified by BN and the Malaysian courts. The truth has yet to be revealed and we leave that to the Courts to finish the encounter between BM and BN and the Malaysian Legal System.
(Lets NOT take it upon each other, it is senseless and already painful for so many, don't make it any worse, WE ALL, including YOU don't deserve it now that BM is held to answer for their actions!)
We can still pull through as a lesson learnt and as for Bryan and his lifelong partner Sharon, they too will soon realise their role was something they too had to accept when judgement is laid down.
It enriches us little to throw anything more since his custody, including obscene words or mindless wishes of persecution for that will make us no better if we harbour such thoughts.... pray for a good return of sanity with yourself and fellow friends and family and that you embark on a better mission to help improve the ties, broken with many you genuinely did not intend to lead otherwise from the PIPs saga and that you bear no evil grudge against others who are equally in the same boat as you were, we have each other to help and shoulder along....
ROLClub endured and if Marek decided to give in back then, just to heed to some supporters cursing the formation of RC, this forum would not be running as it is today...
Look at the other forums that were actually given the greenlight and approved by Bryan to be set up and run... they are a ragtag team of strayers and most of them spent more time falling back into ROLClub albeit actively posting or lurking with several layers of peeling coats...
ALL are welcome as this is the Forum to pour out and ROL OUT your aspirations to the future...:party:
Marek and I and the MODs wish you all a jolly and Happy New Year coming... Lets Do it together!
Actually it was supposed to be 100% backed by gold which would of made safer than any bank if it were not a lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebat$
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Originally Posted by boatman
Funny,
Yes, it was backed by gold alright, FOOLS GOLD, as was everything else that ever came out of Bryan's lying mouth, a bunch of foolish rubbish called blantant lies.
Happy New Year to all, Mike
Some times the dreams of today become the reality of tomorrow , So dream on every one Their is no harm in dreams.
Cheers Gray