Couple claim trial to more than 48 counts of money-laundering
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Couple claim trial to more than 48 counts of money-laundering
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Couple claim trial to more than 48 counts of money-launderingQuote:
Originally Posted by theStar
I hope he gets a cell with a large [edited, adster, Our TOS mate!admin]. :0)
Interesting,
So now we are down to $3M from original $7M figure? Where did the other $4M go? I would have hoped the figure of total money laundered would have gone up offering a little hope for refunds of those who had pending withdrawals in Picpay, but this is not a good sign when charges go up, and money goes down. (g)
Good luck to all, Mike
Just received an UNCONFIRMED report that the Marsdens received a 5-year sentence on charges filed against them.
If that be the case, that was pretty fast decision by the Malaysian courts. Anybody in Malaysia can confirm this report?
:banana: :banana:
I think the info is garbled. I'm pretty sure the original thing was an "up-to-5-years" possible jail term, along with a fine.
another speculation, but I think a more reliable one (just like nej's): I guess these 5 years are what the prosecutor asked considering the accusations...
Your Email Says, "while We Wait For Good News On Pips".
I Didn't Know We Had A Chance On Any Good News With Pips.
I Was Under The Impression All Was Lost.
Can You Explain Any Thoughts Or Educated Guesses At What
We Could Possibly Hope To Get Out Of All This Mess.
Thanks
Zoe
I thought that Brians wife was sharon who is this other lady. Was she with him when they had the last convention. I do not understand all the negative. Everyone knew that picpay was an imatation of egold and that something negative was going to happen. We should all hope that when this is over pips will continue and we will get the money with all the interest afterall it is still working. :party:
It's the same lady. I know of several people from eastern asia who have a european/western name in addition just because it's practical to not have to spell the name for us "falangs" all the time. It's quite usual in my experience.
(falang means foreign in thai and malay)
Well I hope they get whats coming to them and I'm not thinking pretty thoughts. The monies gone time to move on, friends :)
I would like to know where Sharon is also?
Hi Folks,
As I observed in this case became a political issue
now, they are interested with our Monies think
about it folks. Bryan and Sharon are innocent
The only purpose of this husband and wife
for us to become financially independent.
they put the money into business so this way
we have more option of investment and return
with our monies. Just think about it folks.
As we ALL observe willingly and for many, rather unwilling too for obvious reasons we shouldn't ignore either, I beg to differ as to how you analysed it to be a political issue when it has no evidence of any political influence as we all know what and where or how politics play into our lives....this DEFF is NOT...but then again, your summary and quick conclusion on the developments so far displayed your lack of any DD for your part nor willing to open your facts with deciding arguments.
On the purpose & motivation B & S Marsden undertook... thats a debatable feature that we will soon or someday soon, discover through the facts uncovered by the courts unless you reject that as well.... which would put you to be one living in Utopia all these while... well, good luck to your amassed fortune for that incredible dream most have discovered to become a personal financial nightmare.
Perhaps it is not too late for you to take up Mike's reccomendation to read up a little... and do some DD stay away from the politics so you won't get confused about the difference. :ro_emote:
YB. - cheers to the RC CARE Group...:beer:
A lot of people dismissed the book as just quotes from the forums.Having read the book now,I can tell you there is a lot more than just forum posts.
Judge for yourself.
Your right Dreamer. It sort of paints a picture I think.And what a picture it is.
I was led to believe Owen P. was a dream wrecking sob. Has this been proven without a shadow of doubt to be incorrect?
How could simply writing a book make one a "dream-wreaking SOB"? If everything with Pips/Picpay/Bryan was legal and legitimate then the current sad state of affairs wouldn't be happeneing.
Pencer,
Owen came under a lot of flak regarding his book. A lot of this probably came from the fact that he was active on TalkGold, a place that many of us dislike. Ergo, he was guilty by association. I myself was probably guilty of saying less-than-pleasant things. I apologise unreservedly if I did this.
Since the arrest of BM, Owen has not rubbed our noses in it, nor sat crowing on his perch. His book is worthy of a read (perhaps a few too many forum posts, but that is forgivable given the lack of material to draw from). He obviously has some expertise in this area.
I would say he is now very welcome at Rolclub.
Great,
Nice to see people recognize that Owen was just doing his job, and I must say, he did it well. I think the comments and apologies are justified now that we know the truth, and this book was so accurate I read it in one sitting almost knowing what the next paragraph would be, that is how accurate it was.
If you followed it as closely as many of us have, then you will draw the same conclusions we have, this is the truth, and is about as accurate a picture you will ever see, at least until court records are released. No doubt, we won't be seeing Bryan, Barry or Sharon again, this you can take to the bank. (g)
Good luck to all, Mike
This quote below originally said by a past US preseident some decades ago couldnt be more fitting to this situation:
...truth must pass through three stages - first it is ridiculed, then it is violently opposed, finally it is accepted as self-evident.
Adster i know what the bit you cut out was.
maybe also, they will also knock out all his teeth so that he cannot bite that big black cheesey knob!!!
Thank you - but there really is no need for an apology. If I had put my money in Pips I would probably have felt the same way. Not having done so, I was able to be more objective in the matter.
And bearers of bad news are seldom popular initially. In the old days, they solved the problem by shooting the messenger, a process that was actually advocated by several posters here some time ago! Times must have changed, since no one showed up at my address.
I agree that there is a surfeit of postings in the book - this was more from necessity than anything else, as was the reliance on the TG forum which, you will note, I pointed out as bringing a new meaning to "Free Speech!" And the postings had to be made in full to avoid any misunderstanding.
The book was not targeted at Pips members who may have read all of these but at a more general public who, like myself prior to starting work on the book, never even knew that this world existed.
I haven't given up on the out come of our money investments thru PIPS. I still have faith that not all is lost. I can't explain why. Only God knows for sure.
Thank You for sending me updates regarding the case.
God Bless You all,
sanhpruett
Can I have the link for the book?
I have offered the E-Book free of charge. All you need to do is send me your E-Mail address to [email protected]
Please let us know what is % of truth in your book.
Also how and were did you get information to write your book.
It is important to know source and validity of information before someone buys a book.