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    Cashbuilder,

    why are you looking at this as if the glass is half full?

    We are only up to around the 150 members mark in NIL and you are predicting doom and gloom for member 2000?

    Please remember that when people cycle, they are re-entered back in the MAIN program, not the feeder which is where we all start. The people in the main board will continue to cycle each other through as the new members also come onto the main boards. Each time a member cycles and gets paid, they are being encourages to use a SMALL PORTION of their earnings to buy more positions. This will also continue to keep the program going.

    If you don't understand how this program works, then I'm sorry. Your loss.

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    hi kathy. "We are only up to around the 150 members mark in NIL and you are predicting doom and gloom for member 2000?" well, as you yourself said in another post, this program is being advertised to 22,300 ROLClub members alone so 2000 members could be reached quite quickly. now, as you understand how NIL/CF works, why don't you tell the ROLClub member who may be the 2000th person to join how many positions after him/her have to be sold for him/her to cycle. maybe banana could answer if you can't. thanks, cash.
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    Cashbuilder,

    why are you looking at this as if the glass is half full?

    We are only up to around the 150 members mark in NIL and you are predicting doom and gloom for member 2000?

    Please remember that when people cycle, they are re-entered back in the MAIN program, not the feeder which is where we all start. The people in the main board will continue to cycle each other through as the new members also come onto the main boards. Each time a member cycles and gets paid, they are being encourages to use a SMALL PORTION of their earnings to buy more positions. This will also continue to keep the program going.

    If you don't understand how this program works, then I'm sorry. Your loss.

    Cheers,
    Kathy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca$hBuilder View Post
    hi kathy. "We are only up to around the 150 members mark in NIL and you are predicting doom and gloom for member 2000?" well, as you yourself said in another post, this program is being advertised to 22,300 ROLClub members alone so 2000 members could be reached quite quickly. now, as you understand how NIL/CF works, why don't you tell the ROLClub member who may be the 2000th person to join how many positions after him/her have to be sold for him/her to cycle. maybe banana could answer if you can't. thanks, cash.
    I'm not going to tell anyone anything about how many people it will take because I don't know.

    I do know that it will be no where near the entire earth's population! Can you quantify that statement?

    Remember that everyone will cycle over and over again, so we won't need the "entire earth" to fill this, and also most people (myself included) will be buying quite a few more positions when we do cycle, so we won't need as many people as you say.

    I'm not going to respond to this thread anymore because it's become a tad ridiculous.

    Cheers,
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    Dear Cashbuilder,

    If you are not intersted in this team then why are you here posting daily. We all are here to make serious money. We are sharing doing our part and sharing this concept to everyone we know. You please do not bother to write here.
    All ROL CLUB members Join our NIL group. here everyone will get their 2 personal referrals. Do not miss this one. your success is almost Guranteed.
    All the info is here: http://www.rolclub.com/rolclubs-next-line-system/

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    Smile Banana, please give a straight answer to a straight question.

    how many positions in CF (via NIL) have to be sold after the 2000th member has joined NIL for him/her to cycle. Thanks, Cash.
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    ah well, never mind.
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    how many positions in CF (via NIL) have to be sold after the 2000th member has joined NIL for him/her to cycle. Thanks, Cash.

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    how many positions in CF (via NIL) have to be sold after the 2000th member has joined NIL for him/her to cycle. Thanks, Cash.

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    Hi Cashbuilder,
    The 2000th member has exactly the same chance as the 10th or 50th etc.
    Its all relative to the depth built....and more especially the width of each position but not the way everyone is thinking.

    After all there is supposed to be 60,000 odd members of CFT (correct me if I am wrong here...only a figure someone bandied about). When Nil team started, it started its own set of tables, and its the quality and depth of those tables that keep it building. With NIL it ensures that it does keep building and never comes to a standstill.

    ***There is one really easy way to make this work even better.***

    The way this kind of program works is, yes for it to continue to go down and everyone be qualified with their 2 - because it is even building of the teams that propels this forward, (why so many of the normal CF tables have stalled is that people get their 2, but then those 2 fail to continue as we know) - which is where NIL fills a HUGE need and will attract many.

    An even better way is that at the same time NIL people cycle & collect they start building wide on their first position - but ONLY via a 2nd NIL queue which would have to be made up of the people as they cycle and collect cash!

    That will mean that duplicate lines are being built from the top position giving everyone a better chance of cycling multiple times - actually even better than buying multiple positions deep. Simply because like the NIL team we all follow the leader, and so likely to always have NIL members on our tables.

    Building wide with a further NIL team would ensure that this continues to build only with NIL members too on the tables.

    So 1st position (Banana) has its 2 and simply buys a new position under the main one - after it cycles and collects cash/travel.
    Now it has 3 front line to it, and NIL starts a 2nd queue attached to that top position (they still also go back and buy multiple positions as planned in main NIL leg).

    Every time that positions cycles (Bananas 1st one in NIL), it starts off another leg using the same people in Nil, however this time it would have to be in order of their cycling, because some people will cycle before others - so it won't be truly chronological joining, but hey that is fair too. Some luck in the splitting of tables will always occur.

    Basically a whole 2nd (3rd/4th etc) NIL queue commences made up of chronologically the people who cycle and re-purchase another position in the 2nd & any other subsequent front line NIL queus.

    Building wide is definitely the answer to all the concerns you have.

    This method has worked for many people in CDT (Canadian Diamond Traders) and the most successful of people in there have been the ones that had one position with 10 or 20 wide under them, and teaching them to do the same thing. Their only problem for members of their downline (not themselves) is the obvious one that someone fails to find their qualifiers, however NIL totally addresses this, because the downline is always allocated to them.

    A rule would have to be made that ONLY people who have cycled can join team 2, 3 etc in the chronological order that they cycle from team 1 etc. This will ensure that team 1 continues to grow. All new people must join team 1 NIL queue first!

    The CDT people cycle as do their team members multiple times, because their tables are always made up ONLY of their own members.

    This is another huge problem in CFT that a normal position & you end up on tables with people you do not know - part of completely different teams or just small teams, who have given up due to inability to find their 2 qualifiers.

    The human factor will always be the issue in this kind of program with a requirement to continually build down, and many of the people who complain the most that they are stuck are simply the ones that cannot find their 2 either, or one of their personals has got bogged down as well and thats ok.
    Only way to solve that is to build under them or start a new leg, and thats too hard..when NIL has the answer.

    Building wide with NIL would solve all of these issues too for everyone.
    Many of the "leaders" in CFT bought multiple positions under themselves and guess what, those multiple positions have gone here there and every where. Yes some of them cycled 2 or 3 times in the beginning, but now their teams are fractured because of UNEVEN building of the depth - and LACK of building of the WIDTH.

    Instead POS1, has personal positions 2, 3, 4, 5 etc attached directly under position 1, and builds under them. More importantly teaches the people in them to do the same - more even building. When POS1 cycles, absolutely without a doubt, POS 2, 3, 4, 5 etc HAVE to follow them to the table they are on, not be split up and sent to multiple tables with strangers. As do all the members under those 2-5 positions. Thats how it was explained to me from someone who does this very successfully in CDT. Does it make sense?
    Unless CFT is slightly different to CDT in how the tables split?

    I believe that NIL in its current format will do precisely the same, however we can add to that in time, by creating 2nd and subsequent queues under Banana's 1st one. Just a thought.

    I am making the suggestion to Banana and Neno, that they think this over and consider that as soon as the first position at the top of the NIL table cycles, that as part of the re-investment strategy, that Banana starts another NIL team attached to his bhg9010 position and simply duplicates the entire team down again, BUT only of cycled members.

    Of course he will cycle more, but thats what leaders do, however so will his team, quicker, and more frequently.

    And we all simply follow him. Those that choose to re-invest when cycled simply form part of a new queue.

    Love everyone's feedback !

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    What a great idea travelforall, i would definatly be interested in that concept

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    To me, that just makes good sense; thanks for contributing that concept for discussion, Travelforall.

    Best regards,

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