Thread: "against the grain" perspectives......

Originally Posted by doublescorpio

You need to check yourself...you and a couple of others are posting on more threads then even the most excited naysayer. I am completly happy with my life and only come here to catch up on the news. What baffles me is how you can throw accusations out like that witout looking at your self in a mirror. YOU ARE ON EVERY THREAD!!!!!!! I have yet to pull up a thread without seeing one of your negative doom and gloom posts. IN FACT...the only reason I begain posting again this week is because I AM TIRED OF READING IT. Get things done in my real life...give me a break. Go crawl back from whatever hole you crawled out of loser

Don't you think you're exaggerating just a little bit? I am a realist, not a doom and gloomer. My intention has never been to start trouble or single any one poster out as has been done to me. Double standards at work here. When someone says "The brother of the lady who cuts my uncle's toenails works at the CBI and saw some 1 Dinar bills" everyone woots and farm jigs but when I and others say we think it will be a slow growth then we're labeled as trouble-makers and everyone demands proof.

Originally Posted by DesertWolf

ATMCSMD,

Just try and use a little tact. You will find that a creative mind can still get the point across where others are more willing to listen to you telling them to F.O.!


DesertWolf

I started off trying to be tactful but tact is like a butter knife and when people come at me with swords then I have no choice but to pull out my machine gun.

OK, I understand that the majority of people on here disagree with me so trying to express my opinion will only cause trouble. I hope you all get the overnight success you are looking for and all your dreams come true. I do not wish to cause any more problems so I will only be reading from now on. I apologize to those whose feathers I have ruffled.

Goodbye and Good Luck.

Originally Posted by putsy

"...therefore running to the STORE to BUY STUFF, not to the banks to make withdrawals for fear of loosing their value"


How can you run to the store with Iraqi Dinars? One must exchange them for U.S. Dollars first, then run to store.

And your point is? There is a difference between exchanging a currency and a 'run on the bank' where you bring nothing, but take your cash out.

Additionally, it is not only USD that will be used as an exchange currency for NID.

Originally Posted by ATMCSMD

WOW! This thread is a true example of the hypocrisy of the sunshine pumpers. They get all bent out of shape when a realist injects a little bit of reason into their fantasy threads and then they come over here and do the same thing to the realists. Way to let those true colors shine fellas. You may see an overnight adjustment at some point but you will not see the overnight, multi-thousand percent, millionaire-manufacturing RV that you are so desperately dreaming for. (No links, no articles, just good old-fashioned common sense) I wish you would though....for your sake, because the only reason that I can think of for someone to hang on so hard to such a ridiculous fantasy is that they are so dissatisfied with their lives that they are looking for an out. My suggestion: Get a good glue solvent and detach those fingers from your keyboard, make a list of three things that you need to get done in your real life but haven't because you've been scouring the NID forums looking for that little grain of hope that isn't there, knock out those three items on the list and I PROMISE you that you WILL feel much better and much less like you want to go bash a realist for interrupting your fantasy.

Where do you get the right to call yourself a realist and say others are only in a fantasy? That is only your opnion..I might just as well consider myself a realist with an RV theory of 10 to 30 cents, or even $1.40.

It is posts like yours that gall others, because of your use of terms that you've liberally adopted for your own opinions..

Your 'good ol fashioned common sense' has no bearing on this investment. Traditional thinking..ok, possibly, but common sense can be just as easily applied to the overnight RV theory too.

Common sense may have years ago said that I couldn't double my salary simply by changing from a permanent employee to an independant contractor with the same company...yet my version of common sense said to do it and guess what??? I doubled my salary!!!

Your common sense may state that I couldn't buy some equipment from one supplier and double my money buy selling it to another, yet my common sense did it and doubled my money!!!

I would venture that common sense is the ability to determine what is right, true and probable to your method of operation...that is where the Dinar egos clash..everybody wants to be known as the person with the correct theory, even if it means bashing others repeatedly to get the point across.

My common sense said to buy as many dinars as I could possibly afford over a three year period. Now, I've amassed an amount that is large enough for my common sense to cause me to stop buying. What is that amount? It could be 5mil for one person or 500mil for another...either could be considered within the realms of common sense for each individual.

DO YOU GET MY POINT?? It is fine to say 'I don't think there will be an overnight RV.' Cool. Glad to get your opinion on it. But to add that those who don't agree with you are fantasizing dreamers, or unhappy/unproductive with their lives is BS. One might venture a good would be a quick way to stop your kind of posting.

In conclusion, state your case (once or twice maximum please) succinctly but don't add your egotistical BS to try and make yourself appear smarter that anyone who disagrees with you. Right now, nobody is better than anyone else on this forum as far as their theory of RV goes. Time will tell whether your dinars were purchased with more wisdom, common sense or accurate predictablilty than anyone else's.

Originally Posted by breakeven

You have a right cheek to call someone ignorant and get away with it...I'm sure you will garner support from like-minded people but it is totally uncalled for considering that I have not indulged in name calling and characterisation. Phew...onto the rest now... The thread in particular was meant for those who do not believe in an overnight revalue and have a different perspective to this speculative investment. Having a differing opinion does not warrant being ridiculed or picked on. I've said this many times before...members have a choice not to read a particular member's posts. It isn't rocket science. If you wish to still have a mature debate minus the needless characterisation and name-calling, I'm willing to give you the benefit of my time. Failing that, there isn't much common ground to stoke a debate in the first place...Thank you and good luck with this investment.

Yada, yada, yada. I think that stating there would be a run on the banks with an RV is an ingnorant statment. It means I feel you are ignorant of the causes of a run on the banks. Judging from the above post, your ability to verbalize is good, but a yapping lap dog does not a big dog make. I bow graciously for the "benefit of your time". LOL

Originally Posted by 40plus

Where do you get the right to call yourself a realist and say others are only in a fantasy? That is only your opnion..I might just as well consider myself a realist with an RV theory of 10 to 30 cents, or even $1.40.

It is posts like yours that gall others, because of your use of terms that you've liberally adopted for your own opinions..

Your 'good ol fashioned common sense' has no bearing on this investment. Traditional thinking..ok, possibly, but common sense can be just as easily applied to the overnight RV theory too.

Common sense may have years ago said that I couldn't double my salary simply by changing from a permanent employee to an independant contractor with the same company...yet my version of common sense said to do it and guess what??? I doubled my salary!!!

Your common sense may state that I couldn't buy some equipment from one supplier and double my money buy selling it to another, yet my common sense did it and doubled my money!!!

I would venture that common sense is the ability to determine what is right, true and probable to your method of operation...that is where the Dinar egos clash..everybody wants to be known as the person with the correct theory, even if it means bashing others repeatedly to get the point across.

My common sense said to buy as many dinars as I could possibly afford over a three year period. Now, I've amassed an amount that is large enough for my common sense to cause me to stop buying. What is that amount? It could be 5mil for one person or 500mil for another...either could be considered within the realms of common sense for each individual.

DO YOU GET MY POINT?? It is fine to say 'I don't think there will be an overnight RV.' Cool. Glad to get your opinion on it. But to add that those who don't agree with you are fantasizing dreamers, or unhappy/unproductive with their lives is BS. One might venture a good would be a quick way to stop your kind of posting.

In conclusion, state your case (once or twice maximum please) succinctly but don't add your egotistical BS to try and make yourself appear smarter that anyone who disagrees with you. Right now, nobody is better than anyone else on this forum as far as their theory of RV goes. Time will tell whether your dinars were purchased with more wisdom, common sense or accurate predictablilty than anyone else's.

I like this post.

Originally Posted by ATMCSMD

I started off trying to be tactful but tact is like a butter knife and when people come at me with swords then I have no choice but to pull out my machine gun.

Since many of us here are considered to be radical, war hawk conservatives, we might enjoy that a bit more than what you've been pulling out of your a** lately.

Originally Posted by 40plus

Since many of us here are considered to be radical, war hawk conservatives, we might enjoy that a bit more than what you've been pulling out of your a** lately.

ha! good one, and now by his own word, he wont even retaliate since hes not posting anymore. Lets see if he is a man of his word...

Originally Posted by breakeven

This thread was meant for those who believe in slow grow. I cannot provide you with any article to substantiate that theory. In the same vein, there isn't an article from the CBI that states that there will be an overnight revalue. There have been suggestions by some Ministers and officials purporting to reverting to a previous value but those statements have been in vogue since early 2006. They are renowned for talk...sadly, actions speak louder than words and they aren't doing what they ought to have done 2 years ago.

We are all entitled to an opinion. There are multiple other threads that cater for your optimism. Personal attacks are uncalled for given that I am maintaining a sense of decency and decorum in my posts without resorting to personal attacks.

Thank you and good luck.

According to you, they arent doing what they ought to have done 2 years ago. And what might have that been??? The fact of the matter is it takes time to get alot of this carp done and this is the closest that we have ever been. SO HERES HOPING