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[catmando]

"Judgement is with the Lord". Funny, I thought it was with Bank Negara. At any rate we are all looking forward to PIPS resuming, this time with a better plan and security.

[giveitachance]

"Judgement is with the Lord". Funny, I thought it was with Bank Negara. At any rate we are all looking forward to PIPS resuming, this time with a better plan and security.

I think Bryan was refering to the comments made against former employees.

The bible say's "It is mine to avenge; I will repay. In due time their foot will slip" (Deuteronomy 32:35).

[duam]

If those who loaned money to Pips had dedicated their promised returns to God for His work, would Brian be guilty of stealing from God by not honouring his covenants?

Does God honour and bless those who steal from Him and/or who don’t keep their covenants?

Is loaning anything upon usury forbidden by God? Did God say that those who loan upon usury will surely die?

Please explain your reasoning for all this to God when next you are praying and spare us the ungodly, slimy, sycophantic postings.

[norm]

DUAM ......A person can't dedicate something they don't have.
Was the covenant broken INTENTIONALLY or CIRCUMSTANCIALLY?
NO !!!!! Loaning money is what makes the world go round. (unless it is blood money)
God knows the heart of every man and woman!
THE QUESTION THEN IS...... ARE OUR MOTIVES INTENDED FOR GOOD OR EVIL?????

[tonyd56]

Totally agree with you Norm and I sure don't think that praying or giving God the glory is in any way ungodly, slimey or sycophantic as Duam seems to think.

It should be remembered that God still provided the manna the day after the golden calf incident in the wilderness and we are most assuredly under a better covenant now as Sons not servants.

[manoo]

Amen Tonyd56.

I thank God we are Heirs under Grace.

Manoo.

[duam]

If I dedicate my life to God, is that a valid dedication?

Do I hold my life in my hands now or does it unfold before me as time ticks away?
Is that not me dedicating something I don't have now but anticipate having in the future?

Can you tell me with certainty whether this covenant was "broken INTENTIONALLY or CIRCUMSTANCIALLY", or by negligence or incompetence? Should one be reasonably expected to forsee at least some such circumstantial problems before one covenants?

"NO !!!!! Loaning money is what makes the world go round. (unless it is blood money)"

Really?

Are these quotes valid?
"You shall not lend him your money for usury, nor lend him your food at a profit."
"You shall not charge interest to your brother - interest on money or food or anything that is lent out at interest."
"If he has exacted usury or taken increase - Shall he then live? He shall not live! If he has done any of these abominations, He shall surely die; His blood shall be upon him."

"THE QUESTION THEN IS...... ARE OUR MOTIVES INTENDED FOR GOOD OR EVIL?????"

Is not the road to hell paved with good intentions?

Were Ned Kelly and Robin Hood vindicated for stealing from the rich because they "intended for good" to give the money to the poor? Was it still stealing? Does God say not to steal?

Let me get this straight. You obey God until you feel that God doesn't know what He is talking about and then you do what you think is right in your heart? Is that a fair summation of your position as voiced here?

Is this "grace"?

I repeat, "Does God honour and bless those who steal from Him and/or who don’t keep their covenants?"

Does God honour and bless those who rebel against Him and His laws?

Are the sycophantic postings on this forum tantamount to idolatory and worship of Brian?

Do you really think that type of behaviour pleases God?

Do I really need to give all the quotations stating that we should only look to God for our sustenance and increase?

[thinkhuman]

Duam wrote:

"Can you tell me with certainty whether this covenant was "broken INTENTIONALLY or CIRCUMSTANCIALLY", or by negligence or incompetence? Should one be reasonably expected to forsee at least some such circumstantial problems before one covenants?"


Ignorance is Sin

T-H

[tonyd56]

Duam,
From your comments I gotta ask the obvious question, why did you join PIPS?

God presents us with opportunities all the time, how do you think He blesses His people financially, dollar bills sure don't float down out of the sky. From your comments, everyone who deposits money in a bank and gains interest on the money from the lending practices of the bank is guilty of accepting money from usery.

Brian has presented us all with an awesome opportunity to do good or not, as the individual is led. Some will be led by greed, some by self and some will be led by God.

I for one truely believe PIPS IS a God given blessing through Brian and Sharon Marden and I will be led by the Spirit of God to do whatever He wants me to do. Under the New Covenant, we are Sons of God and as such we are led by the Spirit of God, not by the Law (Old Covenant) which we have been freed and absolutely delivered from by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Am I (or any PIPS member) commiting idolatory by recognizing the beautiful heart and God given vision Brian Marsden has? Certainly not. Are we all worshipping him by being so thankful to God for this man? I don't think so.

We should all praise God for Brian and Sharon and give God ALL the glory for this wonderful opportunity and to become involved in His vision through Brian and Sharon.

I don't think Brian can be compared to either Ned Kelly or Robin Hood.....are you kidding, although he might look quite good in lincoln green. LOL

Prov 13:22 tells me that 'the wealth of the wicked is laid up for the righteous' and also says in 1 John 3:7 'Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous'. And in 2 Cor 5:21 says 'For he hath made Him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him'.

So that tells me the wealth of the wicked is laid up for ME and anyone else who is 'in Him' and dares to believe Gods Word.

Go Brian.

[sovereigneer]

"Judgement is with the Lord". Funny, I thought it was with Bank Negara. At any rate we are all looking forward to PIPS resuming, this time with a better plan and security.

There is no authority on Earth or in Heaven except that which has been granted and established by God...just ask Nebuchadnezzar about his little seven year grass-eating stint... ;o)