I would like to tell all about this nice little story for what happen to a scammer that tried to
steal funds of our members by fraud.
First of all.
This user's name is: bonus852 on Rolclub. He came the other day claiming that he has done many exchanges and does that for living.
Then he quickly engaged with the exchanges with our members. One of the long time users of this forum known by many "korris" got into an exchange with him.
Exchange was set to 120 egold for 120 paypal.
Korris told this Bonus852 that he has to send paypal first, as there is no way to get the
Egold back once sent. Once Korris received 120 in his paypal, he sent of 120 usd in egold back to Bonus852.
Just 2 hours later, Bonus852 logs into his own paypal account from a VPN which he also uses to register on Rolcub forum under several other usernames (Now all banned)....
And files a unauthorized charge claim (which means more or less that the money was not sent by him. When paypal check the login history to his account, they see a new IP, that was never used before, and simply accepts his request and send the money back to Bonus852's paypal account..
This way. Neither did Korris get the paypal. And he also lost 120 egold as it cant be charged back.
Just by a pure accident, i was coding for this forum, where admin asked me to do some template changes for him on this forum... Where i have to have an admin status on VB forum to conduct my work. On other hand this member an i exchanged several PM's, as all Admin's Pm's were forwarded to me as he was bussy studing for his exam!.
Now this user contact me to do an exchange. I was in impression i will do that exchange where he send me 300 Ebullion currency and i send him back 300 Ebullion GOLD.
When i got the currency, i was going to send him the ebullion currency, but just in that very moment i was warned by Korris and a few others from different forums to not DO ANY EXCHNAGES WITH THIS GUY...
I then confronted him, with what the hell is this? WHy you scammed Korris.
He came with some lame excuses about getting paypal funds from a client, and paypal did a chargeback on it.. Well that is not true..
Paypal never does chargeback like
Paypal-----Customer ---->bonus852------>Korris
They only do a chargeback on Bonus852's account if funds are illegal, and korris will still have his money, but Bonus852 has to cover the chargback from his customer himself! So his explanation about his funds beeing chargedback S.U.C.K.S...
I told him and korris to fix this issue. Well Bonus was in such a situation that if he did listen to me, he might get his bullion back after fixing this issue with korris..
Korris on the other hand wanted BONUS852 to just send back his funds. Bonus did not reply to any email from korris until i was sitting with his funds in my account, and forced him to fix this issue first with korris before any trade..
NOW, bonus852 has not been honest all the way. He first use VPN out of hongkong to scam people on other forums giving them links to threads of users that actually do an honest ecurrency exchange... He then registeres on other forums with the same username as on these forums where the users is doing a good exchange...(so someone has the username bonus852 on a few other forums with good repuration of exchanges, and this person comes here registering as that person, with same username, and gives people
the link to those forums to check his repuration... When they do, they exchange, and he scams them....And when you check with the same usernames on these other forum, about what the hell he did on our forum to our members..That person responds. You know that was not me. Someone else regitered this username on your forum... YOUR SCAMMED!
Korris got his 120 usd back. But Bonus852's $300 was never exchanged by my back.
I also banned Bonus852 all over Rolclub forum, with his IP. And have a damn good ip detection system installed that will ban all his ips.
Bonus852 realize after 2-3h that now he was scammed by me... YES i scammed him openly. And i am honest to tell about that. We do not need such users to join our forum, where honest people do exchanges...
I have now unbanned 1 of bonus852's ips and his username so that he can respond to this post. I have tons of proof with snapshots and all. So does he... But the fact of this thread remains the same.... He is a scammer and he will not get his money back if its upto me.
But then i ask the Admin and the users of this exchange forum. Do you want me to return his money back? Do you want such people to hang around our exchange section?
I know its not honest to take his money, and fall to the same level as him. Frankly my heart does still not accept it, and that why i am asking in open to you all what you would do? If i let him stay around, and he does not get the taste of his medicine, he will always come around to scam other members here on this very board...
I will look at Members views. And i will look for Admin and Yogibrood's decition on this matter...
Coz if they say give back, i will. If they dont say anything, i will take this money..
I unban Bonus852 now for his say.. But the decition on this matter is totally admin's...
Remember me. A lesson learned!
BigBrother!
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05-09-2007, 08:10 PM #1
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SCAMER BUSTED! (Bonus852)
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FIRST: Korris never email me about the funds problrm until i meet him in msn .YOU CASN ASK HIM YOURSELF i refund egold back to him once he told me about it already.2: YOU USE ADMIN ID TO ASKed ME TO SEND FIRST AND NOW YOU SAY YOU ARE NOT THE ADMIN , ANYONE THINK THIS IS FUNNY ?3: you said bonus852 in goldage.net is not me check here [edited, link removed, admin]STOP LIE~~~who pm you and say this is not me !!huh??DON"T DELETEL THREAD TO HIDE TRY TO SCAM I WILL TAKE A SCREENSHOT of this thread!!!
I WILL POST HIS THREAD ON ALL HYIP AND EXCHANGE FORUM TO LET PEOPLE SEE WHAT THEY THINK WHO SCAM HERE.Last edited by Admin; 06-09-2007 at 02:52 AM.
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Bonus, this is so stupid that it actually is funny, scammer got scammed.
I never emailed you?? no i didn't i sent a message to you on MSN saying you got 1 hr to fix the issue with Pay pal before i hunted you down, which i did!
I hope you learned a lesson on this.
PS: do NOT fuc_k with ppl unless you cant tolerate been fuc_k't back.
Spam all you want on all forums, they know who you are now and got all your ip's and nicknames.
Soon you will be banned all over the financial community, for what??? 120$$ LOL
By the way, why don't you login to your Pay Pal account and close the case against me there? I have sent all info about this to them, and will send all info about today's talk also.
BTW? why didn't you mention that your Egold account is blocked? Cos i got it blocked yesterday after talking with them!
9/4/2007
07:26 Payment Made 84798994 Gold -0.178121 4657308 120.00 USD 673.70
To: kawai.co
Memo: Exhange to egold\ PP: ID #9XA241827P742343G)
This account I sent funds to.
Cannot preview spend, the error is:
Incoming Spends Blocked on Recipient e-gold Account 4657308. A Block has been applied to e-gold Account 4657308 (kawai.co). No payment can be made to this account while a block is in place. If you have any questions regarding this block, please direct them to your intended counterparty rather than to e-gold.com. Please note that this message does *not* imply that your account is blocked.
This account YOU sent funds to me from today!
9/5/2007
14:47 Payment Received 84835572 Gold +0.176263 4748498 120.00 USD 680.80
From: kawai.co
Memo: reture money
SO TELL ME....WHO is LYING??????????
Also RC Admin had nothing to do with this, its Super moderator Bigbrother.. but eaven that you cant get right!!
Kent
More info about earliar talking:
I did a trade with this SCAMMER yesterday!!
Admin, you have i have done over 50 traded in past 2 years, and have been very honest to me in each of your trades, as i have been to you in my trades. But believe me, this is a scammer. Do not do any exchanges with him.
I gave him good rating also but please remove it!!
2 hrs after i got this:
One of the benefits of using PayPal is that we make every effort to alert
you to potentially problematic transactions. Our goal is to help you make
sound business decisions.
A review of recent transactions indicates that you may have received an
unauthorized payment. This means that the PayPal account holder may not
have authorized the payment you received.
We would like to learn more about this transaction. Please log in to your
PayPal account and provide some information.
We strongly advise that you not ship the item until our investigation is
complete. If you have already shipped the item, please log in and let us
know where you shipped it.
We have placed a temporary hold on the funds until the investigation is
complete.
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Transaction Details
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Transaction Date: Sep 4, 2007
Transaction Amount: -$120.00 USD
Your Transaction ID: 9XA241827P742343G
Buyer's Transaction ID: 1A7237494X563612T
Case Number: PP-331-746-889
Buyer's Name: Richard Shardlow
Buyer's Email: richard.shardlow at brewingdesign.com
Copy of my Paypal account:
9/4/2007
07:26 Payment Made 84798994 Gold -0.178121 4657308 120.00 USD 673.70
To: kawai.co
Memo: Exhange to egold\ PP: ID #9XA241827P742343G)
Recent Activity
File Type To/From Name/Email Date Status Details Action Amount Fee
Temporary Hold To Unauthorized Sep. 4, 2007 Placed Details -$120.00 USD $4.98 USD
Payment From Alexander Gotardo Sep. 4, 2007 Completed Details $100.00 USD -$4.20 USD
Payment From Alexander Gotardo Sep. 4, 2007 Completed Details $25.00 USD -$1.28 USD
Payment To Innovate it Gothenburg AB Sep. 4, 2007 Completed Details -$113.01 USD $0.00 USD
Payment From Richard Shardlow Sep. 4, 2007 Held Details $120.00 USD -$4.98 USD
You've got new funds!
Dear Kent ***
Richard Shardlow just sent you money with PayPal.
Richard Shardlow is an Unverified buyer.
Payment Details
Amount: $120.00 USD
Transaction ID: 9XA241827P742343G
Copy of my MSN log with him:
kørris..at work said:
yes i see you have writed there
kørris..at work said:
on my way to jow,, can we do this fast?
kørris..at work said:
*job
bonus^XD said:
1:1 ok ~my egold #4657308 ( kawai.co)
kørris..at work said:
oki you send firs sinc its refundeble on PP and not on Egold
kørris..at work said:
got doubts, check my status on RC or Snøfrisk on TG
bonus^XD said:
all right ~
bonus^XD said:
your pp emil?
kørris..at work said:
privatecrew at gmail.com
kørris..at work said:
? need to go, must take this later, should have been on job now
04.09.2007
09:16:16
bonus^XD
kørris..at work
sent already
04.09.2007
09:16:16
bonus^XD
kørris..at work
can you check it?
04.09.2007
09:16:46
kørris..at work
bonus^XD
1 sec
04.09.2007
09:17:11
bonus^XD
kørris..at work
ok
04.09.2007
09:24:06
kørris..at work
bonus^XD
whats your egoldnr?
04.09.2007
09:24:32
bonus^XD
kørris..at work
Account 4657308 (kawai.co)
04.09.2007
09:26:34
kørris..at work
bonus^XD
e-metal® payment confirmation: Batch 84798994 Paid To: 4657308 (kawai.co) Amount: 120 US Dollars' worth of Gold Memo: Exhange to egold\ PP: ID #9XA241827P742343G) From: 2496241 (invest )
04.09.2007
09:27:12
bonus^XD
kørris..at work
recevied
04.09.2007
09:27:35
kørris..at work
bonus^XD
okidoki, thanks for the traden,, please leave feedback on RC and ill do the same
04.09.2007
09:27:36
kørris..at work
bonus^XD
;)
04.09.2007
09:28:22
bonus^XD
kørris..at work
sure ~i will..hope we can do more trade later^^
04.09.2007
09:28:44
kørris..at work
bonus^XD
okidoki i hope so to.
04.09.2007
09:29:39
bonus^XD
kørris..at work
brb now . massage me whenever you need anything
04.09.2007
09:29:49
bonus^XD
kørris..at work
also do you know anyone has ebullion gold?
04.09.2007
09:30:03
kørris..at work
bonus^XD
ask Ray,, admin on rolclub
04.09.2007
09:30:38
bonus^XD
kørris..at work
ok thanks
So make your own decition,, i want my money back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KentLast edited by Korris; 05-09-2007 at 10:06 PM.
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I guess one can regard this as a BIG Bonus for being a Scammer who got scammed at his own game ... lucky he did not face the music in Iran or in China itself.... or his testies will be the next bonus for the dog's next meal bowl!
We should continue to make it known.... NOT TO TRADE/Exchange with new members with no history in ROLClub...
Glad to see Korris gets his money back this way...!!!
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Well done BigB....
Scammer got scammed ... it does not happen that often, but you BB
make it happen again....
I can as forum admin just tell members the same as yogi.: Be very careful with whom you exchange... These are strange times...
End of story!
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I love a happy ending.
Well done all :)
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HAPPY OR SAD ENDING??? :-)
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I guess happy for the one that scammed the scammer, and sad for the scammer that got scammed instead..
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