how we are blessed and encouraged in joining pips because of your benevolent work....keep it up!!!we are praying for you.
-ministers from desolate and depressed land.
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how we are blessed and encouraged in joining pips because of your benevolent work....keep it up!!!we are praying for you.
-ministers from desolate and depressed land.
We are blessed to all be here that's for sure.
amen my freinds
Matthew 6:32-34
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I dont understand why you all from america must quote with God and the bibel every time you want to talk about PIPS. Earning money and reading the bible is two different things. I hope you all can discuss PIPS in the future without mixing it with the bible
best regards
ps I also believe in God, but I dont mix it with PIPS. Have a nice day and future
frode - Norway
Without GOD nothing is possible. That how it is.
FRODE.....Satan too believes in God.
Don't you know that Evil is at work.......The best way, NO, the ONLY way to fight evil is with the Scriptures.
GO PIPSTERS :) WE ARE FAMILY !!!!!!!
AMEN norm !
At one time, the angels were God's servants. They knew God loved them so much. But then came existence of Adam and Eve. The angels did not believe their eyes that God could pour out even greater love and so they became so jeolous that Lucifer, the head of the angels, supposed to look after them while they were growing up, was in turn, seduced Eve. Eve then sinned with the angel and then fallen Eve sinned with his intended bridegroom, Adam. Therefore the fall of man and the fall of Angels. That is how it is. SO we must believe in God for things to work and without God, we were not here!
Good, positive thread. :smile:
champ
frode...you are right in one way for business and spiritual matters are
two separate categories. However, people from different background of creed and faith profess their love, and worship of God in different ways. Some will be reserved and some will openly share their knowledge about
the Lord for the Spirit will teach us all things thru His Holy Words, the Bible.
Because Jesus had given the commision to everyone, young and old to preach the gospel for it was decreed also that the time will come when "the truth will come out of the mouth of babes", also.
The Truths:
1. If we are ashamed of Jesus, He said that He will not present us before
His Heavenly Father. I was young once and was busy with business
and did not put God first in my life until the Light took me out of
darkness ( putting human knowledge and capabilities first without
spiritual guidance).
2. "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." A man shall be blessed if he knows how to
seek the face of God with humility first. It was said also that all glory
belongs to God and He will not give His glory to no man. And without the Lord, man is nothing.
3. Haggai 2:8, " The silver is mine, and the gold is mine" says the Lord.
That means that all the gold and silver belongs to God. And as we find
in the book of the young warrior Joshua of Joshua 1:8, " This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.
God loves everyone! Have a nice morning/night to all.
If quoting scripture makes the reader/listener uncomfortable it is not the quoter's problem but that of the recipient.
I do choose my moments, and it's not a case of hiding a light under a bushal, but of casting pearls before swine. In other words Christians are told that in certain events, making their case is not worth the bother. In this thread I am sure the message has been cast before some swine, but in others, as you can see from the wonderful positive responses it is readily received and has not fallen on deaf ears. It certainly reminded me of who should be put first.
The gospel of Christ is filled with money and money issues. It cannot be separated. It is all part and parcel of the whole. Of the top of my head money issues are in.
Rich Man and Lazarus
Prodigal Son
Widows Mite
Money Exchangers in the temple
The good Samaritan
Paying Local Tax (When Jesus told Peter to catch a fish and in it would be the tax that needed to be paid)
The Rich man who asked how to get to heaven
The Rich little man who climbed a tree to see Jesus
Saint Matthew was a taxation officer
Rich man and a camel
Lawful Taxation (Sadducee Question)
The sermon on the mount
Even the cost of ointment being anointed on Jesus feet.
The worth of the death of Jesus was valued at 30 pieces of silver, enough to purchase a field in those days.
You cannot separate finance and Christian belief. Christians are convicted in the great commission to spread the gospel. They are not convicted to sympathize with everybody else's school of thought however logical. And like it or not the word of God will not return void.
Denim, if you are from planet Earth, than you just arrived.
If a person has faith in God and believes that God is everywhere...then he/she praises Him,thanks Him and asks His guidance.
pieapple
I believe all things are made possible to us through our faith in the word of God.
Whitch also applies to the outcome of Pips.
omcelveen
Can you say that in English? :smile:Quote:
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I am an Atheist. What I do is NOT possible. Is that what you think?
I really hope that being an atheist is a conclusion that you have reached by weighing up the evidence and coming to your conclusion. And that you are still on a learning curve.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shell
To atheists and agnostics in general may I venture the following,
To actually believe something does not necessarily mean that it is true.
For a long time there was a belief that the world is flat. There are a few people who still believe the world is flat. There is a flat earth society. By retaining the view and using logic there is nothing to stop people in believing in their hearts that the world is really flat. HOWEVER it doesn't necessarily mean it is true. The fact remains whatever anyone believes - the earth is ball or globe shaped.
Similarly so, a thought process can determine that there is no God or supreme being according to evidence, or lack of evidence. It does not necessarily happen to be fact. Which makes your statement false logic.
An atheist denies the existence in God or gods. I think there are many so called atheists that deny the existence of God simply because they don't like the idea of there being a God and haven't really given it any thought, I hope you are not one of them. I believe that this is not enough. This is like saying I don't like the idea of the earth being a globe. An atheist needs to weigh up the evidence and come to the educated conclusion that there is no God or gods.
Such evidence would include the creation of time and space, the creation of existence. How matter derived from nothing. Order, Chaos. Order in Chaos.
I quote (since there is no point re-inventing the wheel)
What is your philosophy about life and death?
Is there more to this life than just a few hard knocks and then a dirt nap?
If you knew you were going to die tomorrow, would you have any hope that all of this was not in vain?
Why live for others if they are just going to take the same dirt nap as the rest of us?
Do we possess a conscience? If so where did we get a conscience?
If we are not spiritual beings, why do we have a conscience, why can we feel emotion?
Why is it fair that some people live full and rewarding lives, and some have nothing but pain and sorrow? But yet they both end up with nothing in the end?
Is it possible to effectively know or deduce whether there is a God?
Is it possible to effectively know or deduce there is no God?
Is it possible to know whether someone has had a genuine religious /spiritual experience?
How do you define what is moral and what is not?
Should moral rules be codified or are they something for each person to decide for themself as situations arise?
How did life first begin?
What document best exemplifies or informs your attitudes/beliefs/morals?
Since mathematical theory ultimately rests on faith, why do you denounce Christianity for resting on faith?
The history of science shows that strictly mechanistic views of the world have consistently failed to hold up. Why not acknowledge that the world is not strictly mechanistic as materialistic explanations must suppose?
Does the fact that you do not believe in God, necessarily equate for you that there is no afterlife as well (after life, there is only non-existence)?
In the absence of a deity who dishes out punishment and rewards the "good", has this, in any way, encouraged you to do any or some things that God-fearing people would not? (i.e. If I can get away with stealing someone's wife or money, it's ok cos I won't be penalized anyway)
Do some atheists who don't believe in God, still believe in a universal system of reward and retribution (like karma?), if so, where does it come from, who created the system, or does it follow that if you're an atheist, you do not believe in this?
Is there a real need to do good and be caring for your fellow man?
Can I acknowledge that I could be wrong?
Many theories and beliefs have been proven to be incorrect or untrue. In the event that an atheist is wrong, can you stand before the great white throne and point a finger to God and say "You do not exist."?
Is there any reason to consider any of this?
dont confuse confidence with cockiness.
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I see that as false logic, What you do, because you have done it is possible. With respect you were responding to someone else. Everyone is responsible for their own life and what they do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shell
Ha Ha Ha, right on Shelly. Born again christians bore the you know what out of me. I am very spiritual, and I am sorry if I offend anyone who fits into the above category, but pleeeeese give it a break - go preach somewhere else.
This thread by its nature and its title has drawn the responses in it. I do not tend to give such responses in just any thread. That wouldn't be right.Quote:
Originally Posted by solon
An observation.
Why is it that so often it is the non-Christian that tells the Christian to shut up and not the other way round.
I admire Shell, she could as moderator have quite easily closed the thread or deleted it. I see her responsibly contributing. I see the contents of the development of this thread as relevant. In other threads I wouldn't suddenly start, "by the way I think you should have Jesus in your life and if you haven't you are lost." And I haven't done that in this thread. I believe I have posted valid points in the spirit of healthy debate.
Have a nice day
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But you answered to my question even though you weren't the poster I originally raised a question to. Therefore I wanted a straightforward answer from you.
I got an answer, sort of, but what do you mean by false logic?
Just to play devil's advocate here....doesn't that also apply to those who believe in God, Denim? It works both ways.Quote:
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Why am I not surprised.Quote:
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I can feel it in your posts.
God Bless
All we could say is to express our appreciation for doing an excellent job as
a moderator and our thanks also for the rest of the forum moderators for
the same extraordinary job as well.
You all have a big heart for giving your time in accommodating the needs of the forum members. Last but not the least, our gratitude to our
good-hearted Admin Marek and may you be successful with your studies
as a medical student.
To all the forum members:
We should open our hearts to remember in donating for the upkeep
of this website for it is not just an ordinary one. It would be an inconsideration in our part if we just allow our Admin to shoulder the website expenses because he has his own school expenses already as a student. Any amount now and then would greatly help.
Peace, Joy, and many blessings to all.
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Originally Posted by soaringeagle
There really isn't much to say. You exist, therefore you are - and so on. Christians would say that mankind is given free will by God, you are exercising it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shell
God loves everyone and yet He gives every human being the power/freewill
to choose for He will not force His love to anyone to accept His love. And in anyone's time of probation and temporary journey on earth and until a human's breath is return to the the Great Maker, both the wicked and the saint are both given the same provisions of blessings and excercise their free will and faculties of the mind to live prosperously and successfully
or not and whether these accomplishments will bring glory to the Lord or for
a meaningless, destructive and selfish life.
He is a good Father and yearning everyone to come home to
him with an open heart and his love for his children is illustrated with the story of the prodigal son. He is the creator of all things and His name
might come differently and called The Great Spirit or Allah to some people
and Jesus Christ to the christians and Jehovah to the Jewish people and
yet He is the same Spirit, the same God, who is also called the Word in the beginning of time who was made flesh for His blood only and no one else is worthy to save the entire human race from eternal condemnation.
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I don't go around saying "God Bless" to everybody you mean?
How do you know I am not blessing you all with my own good thoughts?
If I didn't want all the good things in the world for you, I wouldn't be here at all........
May I hazard a guess that you celebrate Christmas and Easter. With or without any Christian symbolisation.
Purists would correctly mention these festivals pagan roots. Celebrating Christmas even without its Christian connection is in some way acknowledging Christianity, for without Christianity, Christmas would not be what it is today, including it's secularisation.
The date of Christmas on December 25th probably originated with the ancient birthday of the son-god, Mithra, a pagan deity whose religious influence was widespread in the Roman Empire during the first few centuries A.D. Rome was well-known for absorbing the pagan religions and rituals of its widespread empire. Rome converted this pagan legacy to a celebration of the god, Saturn, and the rebirth of the sun god during the winter solstice period. The winter holiday became known as Saturnalia and began the week prior to December 25th. The festival was characterized by gift-giving, feasting, singing and debauchery, as the priests of Saturn carried wreaths of evergreen boughs in procession throughout the Roman temples.
Variations of the pagan holiday continued throughout the first few centuries after Jesus Christ, but it wasn't until about 336 AD that Emperor Constantine Christianized the pagan tradition.
CHRISTmas derives from the pagan yuletide and was sanctified by the early Roman church to appeal to the pagans being the MASS of CHRIST or Christ's Mass.
I would like to see the day when non-Christians insist on not celebrating Christmas in any way or form, that they insist on going to work over the period; That Santa Clause who's name derives from the Christian Saint Nicolas does not come and visit good children. Christmas songs and carols are not sung; because celebration of Christmas in any shape or form is hypocritical of their belief; just leave it for the Christians to celebrate.
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And why wouldn’t I celebrate the fact that the winter sun is starting to rise again? We call it jul here in Norway still, since many centuries..........
If you knew how hard the winters are for us here up north you would understand that we need a brake from everyday life and have parties and celebrate the lights returning on the skies............
And no, I do not celebrate Easter............
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I think you missed my point.......again.
I said "God bless" to you because I want Him to Bless you weather you believe in Him or not.
Take the chip off your shoulder.
And
God Bless
No One Will Be an Athiest when they Die !
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No, they will be dead.......LOL
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Originally Posted by luckydog
I wonder about that chip supposedly on my shoulders.....I have no idea what that is. Must look it up since I am not of english origin.......
My Point, Shell was, When an athiest dies, they will know that God is real. All people Will stand before God after they Die, whether they believed in Him or Not.
We shall just wait and see then....We Pipsters are accustomed to that by now....:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by weathernut
Ps.
If I should be so lucky as to met that what you call God....I shall have a couple of things to say to him/her/It.............
interesting topic :)