Im sad to say.....

Moderators and members.

To date all my posts have stayed on. They, it now seems to me have met a certain criteria. Now even though I have used no foul language, attacked no member either but simply asked some pretty straightforward questions, my posts are gone.


On Sunday I witnessed the first pretty dramatic post ever for this forum from a member and then as I checked back on the post a short time later I noticed it gone. This member I am certain is not problematic and their post had every right to stay present, as other forms of speculations have been accepted wholeheartedly.

I have since come back only to see stale threads. Yes I have taken note and realized that mostly what I am now reading are posts that are in no wise factual. Instead they are mere speculative in nature and highly appealing for a time. What is not realized though is that as the speculation does not come to fruition more and more members will be far more disillusioned then had they had the meat as well as the bones to chew on.

This is unhealthy people. It is a form of brain washing and when anyone who is intelligent enough to work out what is going on does they will no longer find this forum of any worth.

I am so sad to say that I have lost respect for this forum after reading the same posts day after day after day waiting for some form of movement and then catching the tail end of an staggering thread that was canned.
Moderators, you have a responsibility to us the members to be showing us both the good and the not so good. You also have the responsibilities to yourselves to be no matter what…..honest.

My posts have shown that I fully support Pips, and Bryan Marsden, I have not in any wise slandered Pips or Bryans efforts so I have every write to be heard, as well as those other members who have relevant info. If there are posts allowed on here stating that a friend of an aunts of a friend and so on heard on the grape vine that payouts were happening supposedly as soon as the such and such platform is up then I think that other posts should be allowed also.

I’m truly disappointed and to be honest am not interested in coming here anymore because I doubt what I am reading to be unbiased, up to date and relevant.

Sure seems that way.
Pete

Hi Freedom

I know what you're saying and where you're coming from, but I disagree with you. I think I know the post to which you're referring and although it stated that it was a from a source inside PIPS, it was still not fact as far as we're concerned. It didn't come from the Man himself.
If it turns out to be true, then so be it, but there's no point in someone other than The Man trying to tell us this kind of devastating news, because most of us won't believe it. It does however, cause significant unrest and potentially widespread panic with those who DO choose to believe it and that in turn will only cause problems for the company when these people try to phone them to verify the legitimacy of the post.

Speculation of a positive nature is not harmful and serves to give people hope that it's still possible to come out the other side of this. It shows another way of thinking that is NOT all doom and gloom...

Therefore I agree with the moderators decision to get rid of negative speculation until the Boss says it himself and to keep the positive speculation, because there are times when I read something like that and I think "Hmmm, I never thought of it like that - maybe it IS still possible for my dreams to come true".

I like having my dreams and I don't want them to be dashed prematurely by someone posting something they "heard"....

Ruth

That post was put up again today for a short time and there was light cast upon it, however later removed totally. What most don’t realize is this news IS getting out there anyway. People then cant share this news inside a safe environment to either validate it or have it disputed and disregarded. Another thread totally diff to the above mentioned one was removed also and to be honest that was a large mistake. There has been for sometime speculation regarding registration in Panama. A businessman who has his business registered in Panama came forward and totally cleared this misunderstood notion regarding Pips registration. I for one was glad I caught that thread before it was removed. That thread was one that built further trust. Sometimes we need to deal one at a time with legitimate concerns. We can’t sweep them under the carpet as if they are not real. When we face these real concerns and work together others more learned then we usually come forward to be a saving help.

I’m not looking to have people’s hopes torn to threads; on the contrary…I have 100000.00 in Pips and praying for it to come through.

I value your opinion Ru but I stick by my initial post.

Freedom

I have removed these hearsay allegations from the forum.
I do not want people speculating on whether it's true or false.

We shall wait until BM posts his news. Then you are free to speculate........

I am sorry, but this is the way it's going to be if you want a forum at all........... :cry:

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We shall wait until BM posts his news.

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When will that be now? He's already late so i wonder how long. Is it ok for me to speculate when he might post something?

If someone has a copy of "said post" could you pm it to me?

Freedom

Thanks for your reply and like I say, I can see where you're coming from.

However, these rumours can never be validated one way or another on this forum. BM will never come on here and say whether something somebody is saying is true or not and that's the only information I want to hear about this! We just have to wait until the official announcements are made in our back office. The Boss made it clear that he didn't want new Forums starting up after the demise of the company one and therefore the Moderators are doing exactly what they should do in order that the Boss doesn't decide to close their accounts down for deliberately going against his wishes! This kind of speculation and harmful Chinese Whispers are exactly the reasons that the Company forum was closed in the first place!!

I come here purely to see if anyone has any good news - ie has a withdrawal gone complete or has someone received their mortgage payments (which they have, by the way, in case you missed that thread!)... I believe that's what this was all about - hearing the good news and possibly helping others out with queries.

Please, just respect the rules that the Moderators have in place - we are just supposed to be here to find out concrete info. Go to TG if you want to hear ALL the gossip!

Ruth

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Originally Posted by Shell

We shall wait until BM posts his news.

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When will that be now? He's already late so i wonder how long. Is it ok for me to speculate when he might post something?

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:D From what i heard its gonna be still this week or august 2. the latest.


greets

necromancer

Excuse me but I have thought that Freedom has posted some of the best threads in this Forum and I have enjoyed very much her topics, her arguments and her thoughts especially as I have not always agreed with her.

I don't agree with any form of adult censorship , it smacks of fascism.

If there is a thread that has been withdrawn ask yourself why do this. We are all grown up here and we can differentiate between fact and fiction. Shell, if you are going to allow a rumour to stay because it's of a positive nature the I am afraid you should allow a rumour even if it is negative, if not get rid of all rumours please don't cherry pick the ones you fancy.

This whole business is becoming deplorable and it's being fuelled because of the anxiety caused by senior management doing arbitrary things with no warning nor viable explanations and I am sorry to say a certain level of arrogance . The UK forum is tearing one another to pieces on both sides of the argument because either there is the 'blind faith brigade' who flame aggressively their opposite numbers or there is the real doom and gloom members who are furious with BM for being so reticent.

If we stick to the rules and keep polite and respectful to one another then our posts should remain regardless of content.

Galadriel

Yes Galadriel, have you seen me being other than polite? :)

I think Freedom has excellent posts.
I have not deleted his posts unless they were in a thread that was deleted all the way.

Where are the positive hearsay allegations that should have been deleted?
Show me and I'll consider them.........

Galadriel and Freedom

Please try to remember that this forum is not here out of obligation to you! The mods can censor exactly what the heck they like - they are technically going against what has been asked by the Boss just by being here, so they need to keep it as non-controversial and clean as possible!

I take your point, maybe all speculation should be removed, but I can't see what harm positive speculation has - whereas the negative stuff has obvious danger attached.

The people who set up this forum will run it how they see fit - TG is the one that is not moderated because the owners have nothing to lose. I repeat, go there if you want to hear the bad along with the good. Mods - keep it up. Censor what you like, as long as you keep the good news here, I'll be happy!

Ruth

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I am a free man and I love freedom, did you know that? :)

Cheers,

gnome

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I am a free man and I love freedom, did you know that? Smile

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I used to love free women when I was a free man!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Aw,come on Adster;they ALL come at a price! :P :wink:

I have to agree. If we are going to have everything censored like a bunch of kids then really what is the point? This is a forum for adults, we all "should" have a mind of our own and be able to use it. Thats the way it is in America anyway and it works quite well for us. We are back to where we were on the other forum. We must only post what the moderators agree with or it doesnt stay. Come on, whats up with that? Watch and see if this isnt deleted as well. You just cant have your own opinion....that should be one of the rules you have to agree with before signing up.
"You can only post what the mod's agree with or it will be removed."
JEES!

rahly,

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Aw,come on Adster;they ALL come at a price! Razz Wink

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Some higher than others!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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:D From what i heard its gonna be still this week or august 2. the latest.
necromancer

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Where did you hear this? Its dangerous to post something like this if you dont' have a credible source... People get too worked up....

Sorry to be hard on you, I hope you are right... but this is a bad post unless it can be verified.

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I am a free man and I love freedom, did you know that? Smile

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I used to love free women when I was a free man!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Actually, I am married, and to a truly amazing lady, too, but what can I do? Freedom is simply indispensable! :)

Yea she is, do enjoy reading her posts. :D

daryn2005,

There is a post on P**s USA from IMO, whom I remember as being reliable on the main forum saying there will be an official announcement before or on 2 Aug. Believe it or believe it not, your shout.

Personally, I got to the stage of believing nothing with regards to hearsay after someone reported on this forum that Elvis was still alive and I believed it. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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daryn2005,
There is a post on P**s USA from IMO, whom I remember as being reliable on the main forum saying there will be an official announcement before or on 2 Aug. Believe it or believe it not, your shout.

Personally, I got to the stage of believing nothing with regards to hearsay after someone reported on this forum that Elvis was still alive and I believed it. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Thanks Adster,
at least with the context I can make my own call who to believe.
(which at this point is no one but the PXXs site itself and not even that)
*fingers crossed* for luck

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I am a free man and I love freedom, did you know that? Smile

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I used to love free women when I was a free man!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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U R NOT a free man now??? Aww c'mon Adster, come round and we'll drink to that...but I'm still a FREE man...with my views and boogy-woogies too....hahaaa! Grab a Guinness and we'll hit town , ANYWHERE mate! :wink:

Btw Freedom, I did enjoy your posts, among the many and would not think nor expect you to "back out" this easily just because some were "edited or deleted"...C'mon lady, Don't GIVE UP this easily OK..??. :wink:

One doesn't plan to fly out to another planet to start driving there...just because you got a parking or speeding ticket???, it's NOT that tragic please... come back and there's plenty of guys here waiting to welcome ya back... now, where's that kangaroo hopped to heh?? :roll: :lol: :lol:

Cheers to everyone...don't be too HOT on small issues, like the saying goes....: Don't Sweat The Small Stuff! :wink:

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Yea she is, do enjoy reading her posts. :D

daryn2005,

There is a post on P**s USA from IMO, whom I remember as being reliable on the main forum saying there will be an official announcement before or on 2 Aug. Believe it or believe it not, your shout.

Personally, I got to the stage of believing nothing with regards to hearsay after someone reported on this forum that Elvis was still alive and I believed it. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Adster....U once believed Elvis the pelvis lived after kicking off at 42???...Lol, heyyy, you need a good Guinness my dear fellow... :D :D

http://www.theunionleader.com/doclib.../317A1BEER.jpg

Whhoopppssss, that was said as a joke!!. Course Elvis is brown bread. :shock: :shock: :shock:

But I will take you up on the offer for a beer/guinness 1 day as well as with plenty of other members when all the bad times are behind us. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Keep smiling people, can't do anything about things that are out of your control. Keep believing. :wink:

If you don't like censorship, there are other places to get your information (no matter how inacurate or vulgar). I think that the important stuff will always be allowed through and the garbage always needs to be kicked to the curb. The problem with no regulation, you have anarchy and too many rumors. Keep up the good work moderators. :!:

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Yea she is, do enjoy reading her posts. :D

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I sure hope I will, that is , if she doesn't elope on us, as she said she might. :)

:D yes adster, you are correct, and as i digged in a bit further, the
news are supposed to be good, but pls dont ask me more, i just simply dont know...lol :lol:

Freedom, I was wondering where that thread had gone. I, of course, was the Panama businessman you referenced (though I am by no means a businessman, just have a company registered). My offer still stands if someone wants to foot the bill for the registration papers, I can get the certification of PIPS, and you can have it. It IS there, I am sure. The certification costs $30, I will go and do the legwork.

I agree with freedom 100% im doing the same thing.

As you all can notice i dont post to much. Last night I posted some good information I found on another forum and said i have sent an e-mail to the SEC of Panama (CNV in spanish). My post was deleted.

Anyway im going off of this forum, it was not my purpouse to be negative but to point out and do some DD on PIPs Inc Panama.

Anyway i received a reply from the CNV and trust me, if i post what I have received the mods. of this forum will delete it ASAP as it happens to be to all posts that have negative information regarding PIPs.

Anyway I also talked by phone to the CNV to confirm the e-mail I received.

PS: Dont bother PM i wont reply, call yourself to the CNV or email them. (They talk in spanish)

Tarzancio,

will you at least divulge who you spoke to in the CNV? I will go there personally and speak face to face with that same person (I does nothing to call and talk to someone else, because here in Panama, nobody else probably knows what is even going on).

So If you want to PM me the name, or divulge it here, your choice. Whichever you choose (if you do), I will let you know what I was told first before anyone else.

panama,
would you mind mailing me? I'ld like to have some contacts over there :).

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Originally Posted by ruth11

Hi Freedom

I know what you're saying and where you're coming from, but I disagree with you. I think I know the post to which you're referring and although it stated that it was a from a source inside PIPS, it was still not fact as far as we're concerned. It didn't come from the Man himself.

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well close down the forum!!!none comes from "the man"

It has been 8 months since any payments have been made. Why? Because there isn't any money! We have been successfully led on for all that time. He hasn't shut down the program completely yet since there must be some money still coming in. PicRealty possibly. What has he invested in that could possibly return the amount of money he has promised?

What could possibly be the problem?

I'm surprised that he has the guts to show himself in public.

Has to be one of the biggest scams going today.

I just hope programs similar to this one aren't up to the same.

what an exciting and treacherous world we live in!! :wink:

it depends on the wisdom of the owner and the contentment factor
wealth unmasks the man.

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It has been 8 months since any payments have been made. Why? Because there isn't any money! We have been successfully led on for all that time. He hasn't shut down the program completely yet since there must be some money still coming in. PicRealty possibly. What has he invested in that could possibly return the amount of money he has promised?
What could possibly be the problem?
I'm surprised that he has the guts to show himself in public.
Has to be one of the biggest scams going today.
I just hope programs similar to this one aren't up to the same.

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You seem to be taking an awful lot of liberties with opinions and allegations. The facts are........YOU don't really know any more than the rest of us. Actually, Bryan's past actions when faced with this kind of delays proves you wrong.

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Freedom

I have removed these hearsay allegations from the forum.
I do not want people speculating on whether it's true or false.


We shall wait until BM posts his news. Then you are free to speculate........

I am sorry, but this is the way it's going to be if you want a forum at all........... :cry:

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I agree completely,gotta clean up the mess.Thanks MODS-Shell