#34 Today, 04:19 AM
whatever
Member Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 76
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Originally Posted by denim
The idea of PIPS is pure genius. And if nothing else were to happen from now on, it has generated in the main THIS WONDERFUL COMMUNITY of people, with their own ideas, goals, joys, sorrows, and a platform to share, and that is value for money.
As to the genius, the idea of 2% for 180 days and then it ending is the very best part. And the biggest strain for the organisation is the first few years, WHICH WE ARE IN. After a few years when there are probably more expired units than those NOT expired, (after all dead units IS NOT dead money - its still working for PIPS) this makes a solid base for the company, All those units still live for the company, but dead to our ROL - that is the genius. Unfortunately there are those who do not want this to happen and have preyed on the vulnerability of the first few years where the concept is the toughest to actually make work. It is they who are making it tough, which brings the scum to the surface shouting "I want my money, I invested good money and Bryan made a promise, if I don't get whats due to me now, I'll teach you a lesson and bring you down - and call you names etc etc." If only those people would look at themselves in a mirror, and look at what they have done to bring PIPS down, and sow bad seed, and dash the hopes of the people who look at PIPS as a means of "making a change." It would be better for them if a millstone were hanged around their neck and drowned in the depths of the sea.
The PIPS concept is fantastic and Bryan has the guts to make it happen.
The community that has been generated from PIPS in the main is a wonderful community, and that is value for money alone.
Lets try and make this ROL CLUB community a positive club, and a club such as this is one that has a goal. This clubs goal as I see it is one of unity for members to communicate together and bring about the return of PIPS and to stand behind Bryan. That is what I see this club as being. However there are those here who while being a member of the club do not seek or stand behind Bryan, but curse and moan. If this is you, then that is not the spirit of being a club member. There are other clubs for people like you, like talk gold (thats the club where scum attracts scum).
Lets stand up for Bryan and the true PIPS spirit, and lets MAKE IT HAPPEN - all of us.
P I P S
denim,
I find your post rather scary, for alot of reasons that will probably get me banned. Yes, Pips HAS THE POTENTIAL to be a good idea, the CONCEPT is fantastic, (look up concept) and has the POTENTIAL to DO SOME GOOD if it really worked for people. Apparently it did for a short time. Not for me and my family, or many other families apparently. Is this a moan? Maybe. You will hear alot more moaning in days to come, I guarantee it. It is an INSULT to listen to the self righteous "winners" of Pips who have made money when many of us have waited a year for nothing, having invested alot of money. I would personally love to stand behind Bryan, as you say. He has not as of yet given me a reason to, and I speak for many when I say this. Am I SCUM, as you say? Have I "sown a bad seed" or "dashed others hopes"??? Now a millstone should be torqued on my neck?? have I or those like me dashed anybody's hopes? This is the kind of sick misinterpretive Bible thumping that gives Christians a BAD name, and sir, I am a Christian. A sinner for sure, but a Christian nonetheless. Up to now, I have tried to be positive, understanding, and good humored about all the mishaps of Pips. Sorry, your post made me draw the line in the sand. I think your Bible references made me more upset than anything, really, what right do you have to say these things? We and Bryan are merely Human beings afterall, and Bryan is not the Lord. GACK, as Charlie Brown used to say.
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Last edited by whatever : Today at 04:42 AM.
Whatever!....I like your response, correct and true!
denim!...
value for money to an investor is "ROL paid to the bank account" defined as "an agreed %-interest delivered at a promised date",....nothing more nothing less!
PIPS was originally an investment vehicle and a "financial program" that failed!...I did not consider PIPS as a company that build assets and earned profits as any other brick- and mortar company. Normally those companies takes years (3-10 years) to earn enough profit to pay their investors back (dividends). PIPS was supposed to pay their members or investors from day ONE based on their invested capital, ....like any financial investment program.
Your statement: "As to the genius, the idea of 2% for 180 days and then it ending is the very best part". ....sorry denim, the genius part of PIPS is the fact that "IF" PIPS would have been paying ROL for years, not only for less than a year, I would have agreed with you!
As to your last statement "scum attracts scum",....I understand that you are a serious and honest person! ... not only capable of judging others but .....
However, my experience with PIPS and the failure of PIPS is not based on the fact that many honest members, including many members here on this forum (defined by you as "scums") did not destroy PIPS.
PIPS FAILED due to an extremely fragile business model that could not sustain several threats (including fundamental market forces) that the management did not foresee!...unfortunately for those that lost their money!
The result as far as I can judge, ....far too many members lost their money, money that they could not afford to lose!
Looking back, one of my comments to Bryan would be:....even though he pointed out the risk of losing the money,....but at the same token he also said that only a world financial melt down could bring PIPS down....that to me was a very strong and bold statement!
hine