Here you go Style, :yak: now you can post over here. :yak: The keys are on the table, door unlocked.
Enjoy,
4D :party:
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Here you go Style, :yak: now you can post over here. :yak: The keys are on the table, door unlocked.
Enjoy,
4D :party:
I will post anywhere I want..........understood?:wink:
You cant shut me up 4D..........I will speak whats on my mind........even if it goes against your hoopla! You dont like it much when people disagree with you do you? Well here I am.......:cheers:
Here I try to compliment you, and you get a little 'hot' under the collar...
Sheesh, no respect...
4D
SURE....:yak: :yak: this is complimenting isnt it?
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Originally Posted by 4dataxman
Here you go 4D......I am now complimenting you with your very own thread so you can spread false hope to these people.
I will stay completely out of this thread and let you go with no interuptions from me.............:yak: :yak: :yak: :yak:
Fair enough?
Sure, you do talk alot. Now instead of looking up your posts, I would be able to go to one location...
4D
hmmmmmmmmmmm!
:waiting:
Marek
hmmmmmmmmmmm!
:waiting:
Marek
Hmm, you were already in here though, so you broke the rule already...
4D
....the curlers soon untangled...heyyyy, a salon is welcome too...a nice seat for all the talk gathered here:party:
There you go Style... have fun! :beer:
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With all do respect 4D style has a point BM said good news in Dec. but the only good news was a lotto and he wouldn't answer any of our questions if PIPS is comming back or not all we get is empty promises and date that are never fullfiled that's all we get from PIPS and BM.
I still have faith and hope it'll come back but don't give a program that we need to put in more money into without us getting our money first and what garauntee dose he give us we'll get paid even if we join?
Have to agree with style on this one,lets keep factual folks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Style
No need. You pretty much know what I have to say.
How about yourself...........you dont talk alot?
Most people wont say whats on their mind and when finally do, the "blind folded" ones jump all over them (just like I did when I ws blind folded) Now I am here to make sure that they get a chance to say what they really feel without being attacked. EVERYONE deserves to be heard. Everyone deserves the truth 4D, not more of the "false" hype being spread around like it was before.
Thats all I want is for the truth to come out.......regardless of what that is.
Isnt that fair? For someone who always quotes scriptures like you do....one would believe that you are a man of God. Shouldnt you want the truth as well?
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Originally Posted by 4dataxman
Only good news so far, mrlover. Last I checked, it is only December 8th.... Still 23 days to go, then we can debate over the news or the lack there of.
So many take some news as not the right news, rather than positive news. Something coming online is just that, a come back.
4D
Yogi.......I am pepared my friend. Even though you make ZERO sense when you post......your intentions are obvious. Lets do it if thats what you want......come get some:bringiton :bringiton :bringiton :bringiton
I got banned from here last time because of you and your ridiculous posts......I am prepared to do it again if I have to!
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Originally Posted by YogiBrood
Guys, please don not start it. I know many feel different at the moment. But lets not start these rounds. No insults will be tolerated.
I have spoken with 4D, and i spoke to syles yesterday.
I hope we are clear on this.
regards
Marek
actully it's not a come back, like BM said " PIPSAid was not under investigation" so it's not a come back and why was is closed when it was not under the investigation wher is the money we had in PIPSAID and you mean to tell me a Billion dollar company has 1 server for all their companies that dosen't sound right dose it.
We were misled to believe the good news was about PIPS.....we were never told it was in reference to Pipsaid. We should have been told it was Pipsaid weeks ago. But we werent. That is misleading and is dishonest!
Sugar coat however you want 4D.......you are an intellegent man......it shouldnt be hard for you to see the games being played.
Regardless if PIPS comes back in December now or not.......Pipsaid should have came AFTER Pips! Ask yourself why it came first.......to bring in "new" money is the answer I get when I ask myself that question.
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Originally Posted by 4dataxman
I have merged these two threads, marek.
Do not want to see this spread all over rolclub, and i would appreciate if you two just defused the tensions here.
regards
Marek
Very clear Marek..........now you should talk to Yogi........you know how I feel about him. I wont tolerate his crap either. Just because he is a mod here......that means nothing to me!
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Originally Posted by Admin
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Originally Posted by 4dataxman
Hmmmm, breaking the rule earns a hotdog too... c'mon, he deserves one, add some "dijon" musterd will
make it taste superb for the day!!! :flame: :beer:
YB. :ro_emote:
I Agree 4D ! Pipsaid was the last down , why would it not be the 1st back?
all things must start somewhere & Bryan is just taking the 1st step -
should let him get that foot down before he has to pick the other up.
Time to say a prayer as Grandma got run over by a reindeer....
all my best to all,
lori :)
You are entitled to your opinion Lori and I respect that. But I dont feel the "1st step" should be a program asking for "more" money when he cant pay what he already owes. Not to mention we were mislead about this whole Pipsaid thing for WEEKS now. It looks VERY BAD!
Happy Holidays to you and yours:cheers:
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Originally Posted by lori
OKAY BOTH THREADS ARE MERGED.
I know Yogi, i know styles and 4d, all are pro pipsters, so please do not pick on each other.
You can discuss, but please no :bringiton on stuff.
In a civilized manner please.
Regards
Marek
Style... you got it wrong... it was a good thing you are on a firm footing and I have nothing against you, just have fun and enjoy your posts...don't take it personal or getting overly serious, there's no need to... :ro_emote:
YB. :beer:
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh But, BM did answer the question of "if PIPS is comming back or not all" Here is his post...This first phase sees the return of the PIPSAID program (PIPSAID is not a part of the BN investigation), albeit under a different name, as it will be with all programs.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrlover
Notice the last phrase...as it will be with all programs. Here is his first sentence/paragraph of his post too...This post is the first of a series that signifies the PIPS COMEBACK. It does not meet all of your or my needs in terms of getting PIPS up and running again, but it is the first phase.
Once again, BM's hands are tied! We all know this! Can you imagine BM actually posting all he knows before BN has cleared PIPS? I shudder to think the ramifications of such a post...
Once again, I type...let's allow BM to sort things out and get to the finish line, whatever that line is. Then we can type to our hearts content!
krisark
Grace, mercy and forgiveness will help a man walk tall - JCM
Thank you and my apologies if I misundertood your intentions.
Cheers:cheers:
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Originally Posted by YogiBrood
Krisark;
Let me clarify....again........I have no doubts that Pips will return. I am 100% confident of that. HOWEVER....The post you are referring to is the post where he reveals the come back of "Pipsaid". What I am saying is that for WEEKS we have been led to believe that the "Good news" in December was in reference to PIPS. He should have told us back when he started the December stuff that he was NOT referring to PIPS he was referring to Pipsaid. He knew way back then that it was Pipsaid he was talking about and he could have revealed that then and it would not have effected the investigation in anyway. (after all Pipsaid isnt part of the investigation.....right?)That would have been the honest thing to do........but he didnt........he misled us right up until the last minute and that is WRONG and I dont care who you are.
If he will mislead us on one thing......what else will he mislead us about when he sees fit to do so?
Pipsaid should have returned AFTER PIPS was back up AND paying. You just DONT start up a new program asking for more money when you cant pay what you already owe......YOU JUST DONT!!
I think most of us can see this clearly.......but a few still cant.
Again I have NO DOUBTS about the return of PIPS.....lets make that clear.....but the rest I mentioned above........I have serious issues with.:cheers:
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Originally Posted by krisark
I agrre with you as far as giving him more time because we can't do anything as far as the situation pips is in but if he would've brought back picrealty we would've looked at it from a different angle he would have to pay people first before asking for more(I know joining is free). now as far as picrealty he would have to pay people's mortgages and he wouldn't ask for money that would've built more trust in him big time but you and I can argue about it all day and night and we wouldn't get nowhere so I guess we have to wait and I need to see some money before I get into anything anymore.
he has to start paying to get me trust him again that is the bottom line and I HOPE HE KNOW'S THAT.
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Originally Posted by Style
"The most basic of all human needs is the need to understand and be understood. The best way to understand people is to listen to them."
This (typed) kind of communication is, to say the least, very difficult.
Negativity is an ugly and uneccesary thing, but Style has always had a special 'style' of expressing himself, in a way that is not as abrasive and negative (IMHO). I think what we see (typed) is his frustration, and we may need to do a little 'self-searching'... haven't we all experienced some frustration at one level or another? And although I, like many others here, focus on the positive, I'm sure there are many who can relate to his posts and derive some satisfaction from seeing frustrations voiced (typed).
The problem is that this 'type' of communication is not complete. There is no eye contact, body language, tone of voice, available to refer to. I think everyone who posts on this forum gets misunderstood occasionally because of it.
Chinese proverb
Words are just words and without heart they have no meaning.
I think Styles posts help keep us grounded, without the ugliness of excessive negativity.
a lot of words for a little mouse.
my 2 cents worth :-).... now I'm really broke. Anyone want to buy a teenager?... cheap? :-)
The story goes that some time ago, a man punished his 3-year-old daughter for wasting a roll of gold wrapping paper. Money was tight and he became infuriated when the child tried to decorate a box to put under the Christmas tree. Nevertheless, the little girl brought the gift to her father the next morning and said, "This is for you, Daddy."
He was embarrassed by his earlier overreaction, but his anger flared again when he found the box was empty. He yelled at her, "Don't you know that when you give someone a present, there's supposed to be something inside it?"
The little girl looked up at him with tears in her eyes and said, "Oh, Daddy, it is not empty. I blew kisses into the box. All for you, Daddy."
The father was crushed. He put his arms around his little girl, and he begged for her forgiveness.
It is told that the man kept that gold box by his bed for years and whenever he was discouraged, he would take out an imaginary kiss and remember the love of the child who had put it there.
In a very real sense, each of us have been given a gold container filled with unconditional love and kisses from our children, friends, family or God. There is no more precious possession anyone could hold.
Now, how does this post relate to this thread? The answer is "Any way you want." It's Christmas folks, did you not get the memo?
Didn't want to get as long as I did...
Why Style should Pips come back first? Do you really understand what Pips has been about? Charity has always been job #1.
What do you think the $1.71 comes from your account daily is for? To provide much needed charity relief around the world. Children’s schools in Panama, medical planes, and many more items.
PipsAid was a business strategy that was designed to help areas hit with catastrophes, such as the tsunami hit areas in Malaysia. It was a way to provide members like you and I the opportunity to have a little bit of fun, while at the same time, provide additional relief to the down trodden folks.
Now granted, the investment arm of Pips is equally important, as the larger the ‘loaning’ members area grows, the more funds Pips attains to assist in charity relief. To understand this, you would have to walk beside Mr. Marsden from day 1. Not in front of, or behind, but beside him, to really understand what his values to the Pipsters and underprivileged folks are.
To say do I believe in Mr. Marsden? Yes I do, 125% or whatever it takes to see his visions come to reality. Not doubting him, calling him a game player, or any of the above. I truly understand what his mission is, and will walk beside him and help however I can. My opinion is this, WE, as Pipsters should NOT ask Mr. Marsden why is he doing this or that, but realize that he is choosing the path that will be the best for all of us overall. He has the love of all of us in his best interest, and works to SEE Pips last for MANY years.
Finally, if you really think that Bryan is doing the charity work to bring in cash for his own needs, then you my friend, have spent too many hours reading the wrong threads. First rule you will need to understand, is Bryan makes his rules that will benefit the overall survival of Pips, whether you like it or not. We all have two choices, either wait with patience knowing good things are coming, or ask him to take your account away, and move on. There is no other choice to make.
Pips supporter,
4D
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Originally Posted by hammer25
Thank you.
Never really need to...it simply went off track somewhere back then but accepting is perhaps a good way to cheer up all misgivings and look 4ward to more happy months to come.... so have a good time rolling on the forum. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Style
YB. :beer:
As I have posted before, Bryan has not gone anywhere!!! That should speak volumes to all. He either is not too smart or he is an honest man who truly believes in what he is doing.
As to whether or not he should have told us that it was not the return of the 2% program but Pipsaid, only Bryan knows why. This is just speculation but maybe this had to be cleared first.
As to people being hurt, it was not Bryan but all those who assumed that it was the 2% program, who hurt the members. Brayan kept telling us not to speculate. He would post and the flood gates would open up and his interpreters would clarify what was said. They would put words in his mouth and claim that this is what he really said and if he didn't he meant to say it.
What we need to do is just wait patiently and if you want to play lotto, PLAY! If you don't....Don't.
Now, if all the speculation is stopped, maybe Bryan would post more, or maybe some of these threads would be a whole lot shorter.
In the mean time I would truly like to know what good Pips has done in peoples lives. Maybe this would be better than trying to convict Bryan and villify those who would support him.
Don
PS. Where do you guys get all those neat icons and how do you post them?
Let me clarify....again........I have no doubts that Pips will return. I am 100% confident of that. HOWEVER....The post you are referring to is the post where he reveals the come back of "Pipsaid". What I am saying is that for WEEKS we have been led to believe that the "Good news" in December was in reference to PIPS. He should have told us back when he started the December stuff that he was NOT referring to PIPS he was referring to Pipsaid. He knew way back then that it was Pipsaid he was talking about and he could have revealed that then and it would not have effected the investigation in anyway. (after all Pipsaid isnt part of the investigation.....right?)That would have been the honest thing to do........but he didnt........he misled us right up until the last minute and that is WRONG and I dont care who you are.
If he will mislead us on one thing......what else will he mislead us about when he sees fit to do so?
Pipsaid should have returned AFTER PIPS was back up AND paying. You just DONT start up a new program asking for more money when you cant pay what you already owe......YOU JUST DONT!!
I think most of us can see this clearly.......but a few still cant.
Again I have NO DOUBTS about the return of PIPS.....lets make that clear.....but the rest I mentioned above........I have serious issues with.:cheers:[/QUOTE]
I agree with a lot of what you said 4D.......but you need to understand a couple of things....I am ALL about donating to charities....I do that regularly with or without Bryan or PIPs.......Also understand without us (the paying members), there is no money for charity. I think it is wise to not upset the members any more than absolutely necessary.
Why should PIPS come back first....well if you cant see this, then I cant help you.....but I will explain...AGAIN.....: You just DONT start a program asking for more money when you cant pay what you already owe. Especially after ALL that has happened. You just DONT do it. Talk about a huge slap in the face! It only requires common sense to know this.
NOW.......yes I understand what PIPS is about and I agree with it. I do KNOW what the money being taken out of my account is for.......I also know that even through all of the times that the WD's werent being paid out to the members.......somehow the charities were still getting their money.......HMMM how could this happen? Dont you think the members who make this whole PIPS concept possible deserve just as much respect as the charities that are reaping the benefits of "our" money that we put in? Dont we deserve just as much respect as Bryan does? I think we do. I KNOW we do.
And you are 'partially' right.... we shoudlnt "Have" to ask........he should keep us informed witout us "having" to ask.
And as far as him doing the charity work to bring in money for his own needs..........I NEVER said "just" for his own needs, but bet your tail he was receiving a very nice salary for doing what he was doing.......so yes it was "also" being done for his own needs!
We will see.......I asked that question but he wont answer any legit questions.
I asked if he was going to keep any of the funds from Pipsaid for his own personal use. No answer to that to date.....I dont know what the answer to that is, but I would like to know the "truth"......I do however.. know what my opinion is............I dont think he should. What doesnt go to the charities should go right back to the members who have been waiting for a very LONG time for their money.
No need for us to argue anymore 4D.........we are on the same team here. I think it is just that some of us are now a little more realistic than others. And that is ok......to each his own. All I ask is that you dont spread any more false hope like was going around before.
Maybe we should all just focus on Christmas and let the rest take its course. I just hope all of you that are spending more of your hard earned money on this Pipsaid thing dont end up being let down any more. I wish you all the best of luck.
Happy holidays 4D!http://rolclub.com/images/smilies/icon_cheers.gif
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Originally Posted by 4dataxman
Thanks to bring good point up. Most members do not understand meanings of Bryan posts. I do feel that is good step by Bryan doing things in order that is possible at moment. Things will developed further in order when he is able to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by krisark
Reason of his limitations in answering questions is that he can do only what is allowable for him to say.
I am sure things will developed in our favor. So stay tuned till next episode.
Unity and trust is key of our success with Pips.
BUT he set back and watched this and never put a stop to it either. Just as bad as saying it himself!
He also didnt tell us that it wsnt the 2% program and he could have very easily. He knew it wasnt but he didnt tell us it wasnt.
Have you ever heard of "lieing by obmission".
:cheers:
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Originally Posted by Don
He wasnt allowed to tell us weeks ago that the return was Pipsaid and not Pips?Quote:
Originally Posted by newlife
Why not......Pipsaid wasnt even part of the investigation......remember?