Does anyone have any firm indication as to whether or not our PIPS ROL's are growing during this downtime for picpay?
Roger
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Does anyone have any firm indication as to whether or not our PIPS ROL's are growing during this downtime for picpay?
Roger
Sure it is! Bryan said it will be. We will be rich when picpay and pips comes back on line!Quote:
Originally Posted by rwaite
Most of pips funds are frozen and the ones they had before were frozen by banks so that they could not be placed into trades. So how are they going to be able to pay the same rol that they did when they had access to all their funds and could invest them.
To be realistic I would say no. But that is just an opinion and their are a lot of those running all over the forums. So just my 2 cents worth.
Common sense would say no way!!!!
How do you know they are frozen? How do you know that was Bryan that posted? Bryan stated that :everything is speculation, until everything is finished. Bryan , more or less, said that we wouldn't hear from him until everything was finished.Quote:
Originally Posted by grandmasjoys3
Very Interesting things happening right now!
Mike
Some will say, yes it will be paid.
Some will say, NO it won't be paid.
Bryan will tell us when everything comes back up, then we will know for sure. So until then, we still won't know.
I suggest locking this now before the big debate...
4D
ROL being paid or not should not be your biggest concern at the moment.
There is alot of things that has to happen before the answer becomes relevant.
Anyone Who Thinks Rol Is Being Accumulated Now Is In Dreamland. I Think There Are No Employees In The Offices. How Can A Company Function And Make Money With No Employees Working??even Brian Said All Funds Are Frozen And He Can Do Nothing At This Time. I Would Be Extremely Happy Just To Get Back 1/4 Of What I Have In Pending Withdrawls But Not Holding My Breath
If you know how the PIPS 2% program works -- then you know the answer to this question !
I like the Idea that p*ps works and helps me and others. I spent 40 odd years without p*ps so I will be glad if it comes back later this year, or next year and fulfils the dreams I had while watching ROL growing earlier this year.
If Rol is not working now do I care No. Not if p*ps can be sorted out and start again next year.
P*PS for a better future
I like it in Dreamland, where people help and support each other
ROL or not 2% or not ....... lets not argue. What is, is what is and what's not, ain't. So why don't we all just be patient (asking a lot I know, I am at the end of mine too) and wait for the DUST to settle and everything is revealed to us in its entirely. Till then I ask you to remember the story about the 3 blind man and the elephant!!! :) Look it up if you don't know. Meanwhile if anyone wants me, I'll be in my batcave doing my bat homework as usual. Cheers!
3 blind man and the elephant!!! ???
http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASI...121192-9340317
here's the book on Amazon!!!!
thanks
if the trader is still trading then of course...why not!!?!! The real money making business has nothing to do with the operations to support the members.
Hey pablo,
What's happening with your idea?
Disagree bout P**s continuing to make money. Can't see how this can continue when the office is not being run, scripts being kept up to date etc. We'd all be millionaires if it continued till it comes back up say early next year on 100% reloan!!! NO WAY!
Juast be happy to get what was in picpay, that seems fair for everyone. Sure BM will decide what's best. :0)
After all of the posts the answer still cannot be 100% confirmed one way or another. Supposedly Topwinner is in contact with Bryan so why doesnt he find out what is working and what is not and end the debate.
[Edited, keep you language clean, Admin]
Mods, why is Makaveli still allowed to post? I looked at his posts and they are ALL negative, nasty and condescending!
Hi, He has been warned. And hopefully he wont do it again. admin
I agree
Mods, please releave us of this clown.Quote:
Originally Posted by makaveli
By the way makaveli, your posts are worth jack**** !
A question or concern like that lies ONLY with the "floating DOUBTER" in any similar situations that simply relies on concerns that does not come into perspective or context in light of the current maliaise we all know all too well...
Taking a backseat view in the meantime is a "common sense" inevitable option to adopt and help read with positive participation in addressing what is next best in keeping oneself constructively occupied.... while the waiting pursues. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...oads/gummy.gif
YB,
You mean more drinking?! LOL.
We know that Picpay funds are frozen being based in Malaysia where BN has jurisdiction. Picpay is members funds anyway not Pips funds used to trade.
PIPS is registered in Panama with the main office in Malaysia. Where are PIPS funds for trading located? If not in Malaysia how can BN freeze those funds? Patriot Act might freeze them if in USA.
If anyone is close enough to Bryan to get a "real" and not speculative answer to whether ROL and loan funds are growing or static please enquire for us.
Roger
According to one of my friend who was able to login for a few minutes when PIPS sites were peeped in, the ROL was upto that date. So there is no problem of ROL.Quote:
Originally Posted by rwaite
The biggest question is : Is our money is really trading/investing elsewhere ?. Any proof ?. I know the only proof is BM's words and nothing else.
You are all (until the last post) confusing 2 distinct things;
1. ROL on our accounts. As it appears on the screen. This is not necessarily connected to reality, or ability to pay.
- this continues to grow only as long as the scripts are being run. Real money being made makes no difference to this. This could be monopoly money, we dont know, unless we know about (2).
2. ROL as it occurs in reality.
- this depends on trader or whatever they are using to make the money (they were never that clear on it). If that part is operational (and forget about the offices, they are there to support the members and small businesses), then that money is being made, and the money exists to back up (1).
But i CAN see how nobody withdrawing for this period throws in a rather large spanner as the system was built on greed: that people cannot help but put their finger in the cookie jar. The jar has been closed now for quite a while! I think this is the point that was trying to get itself out earlier. Adster ive persuaded myself at this point that you were right; its not likely to be the case that up-to-date ROL in virtual reality is sat in an a mega-account waiting to be paid out, because of the growth (though see below). However, at this point we would all be happy to go back to where we were, so the point is kind of mute.
Last i heard was Bryan identified a trader to BON. If he is making money then its just whether he can make it fast enough to keep up with us not withdrawing (hopefully someone sees what i am trying to say here! )
Personally i dont give a flying tube of glue if its growing or not, right now i will more than settle for the money owed to me in picpay!
As long as we get the original investment back we shouldn't complain.
I think ROL is not growing right now. Bryan in his last update said the following:
"everyone will get his money"
Now that is open to interpretation and speculation!
What is OUR MONEY?
Original investment?
Picpay money only?
Picpay and accumulated Rol to a certain date?
RoL to a certain date without picpay?
Ongoing rol account like nothing ever happened together with picpay money?
While the last one is what the optimists amoung us hope for, I think that given the situation it may not be that realistic... but the first one in the list is at least fair!
The Wacky One! :biggrin:
No one will really know if the ROL is growing or not until two things have happened. The first is WHEN the BoN CLEARS PIPS for trading, and the second is when BM has been able get all of his servers back up and running, and we are able to log back in.
It may be possible for the investments that PIPS has to continue the growth for the ROL, but this will all depend on what investments the BoN has frozen, and what investments are still continuing to grow. We can only hope that they have allowed the investments to continue to grow while they have been doing their investigation.
Stuart
As Pips is down, nowbody work there, and nowbody can take care of our money.
What I mean is: The moneys are not invested in any system that can give back more than 2% every day. It has to be things like Forex or similar.
Our account stand still until Pips open again.
Regards
fant1
Firstly this is my first post here & I think Bryan is a genius to have come up with the concept which has now been cloned all over the internet. I for one have a huge investment into pips & would be happy even if it backdates to when it went off line, however knowing the risks involved & being a serious investor & having met Bryan in person & been able to speak to him I would not be surprised if he has traders & money creation projects still pumping away in the wings creating funds for the programme & if I was him I would use this downtime to create some surplus funds while I withold the daily ROL with the perfect excuse as to why it is not continuing in the downtime.
If it makes Pips stronger then so be it!!
I for one think that all things that have happened in the past Bryan has been prepared for & in all cases has used these events to create more coin & more security, also think about how this whole thing will look when the green light is given, Bryan & pips will be in a position to do some incredible things in the financial world that has never been done before for the common man.
Not to mention that he always seems to have a plan b just around the corner that nobody knows about.
I have faith in Bryan & I reckon "yeah I'm an Oz boy" I reckon Bryan will do amazing things with pips or pips2.
If you want to have enough money for your dreams & I hope that includes helping your friends & family then unless you win lotto you had better hold on to Bryan Marsden as tight as you can & thank him for his personal sacrifice in all of this as he will prevail & when he does all i can say is "HOLD ON" you are on the PIPS coaster climbing the biggest climb you have ever seen in the finacial world & when it reaches the top "WOW" the ride will be amazing my friends & I hope you will all be with me when this baby starts up again.
Pips flew too fast, too quick, but wait & you will here it comming like the wind, make sure you dont miss it as it goes buy like a ferrari flat stick.
Take Care my friends & hold on for the ride of your life.
alpina
My money is still growing 1.85% a day on the Triviek Simulator
Yeah, mine too. Sometimes it hurts me to look anymore.
But other times I have to look, just to keep my wildest dreams alive.
The Bible says, "Pray without ceasing." So that's what I'm doing.
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AMEN , ALPINA ! I'M READY FOR THE RIDE OF MY LIFE !
AMEN , LUCKYDOG! I'M PRAYING TOO!
Mike
well I hope & pray our ROL is still running but if its not I will be happy to continue where it was at when the servers were taken . Either way is better than anything else I know of at this time
I saw a post on another forum stating that someone had got in a couple of weeks ago briefly when the servers were up. They said they'd quickly seen their accounts and ROL was up to date.
Could be billy bull*hit, nice thought though when we're up and running to see all those $$$$$$$ !!!
I have managed to get information about this site only today from a pipster like me.
Can anyone enlighten me on what has happend? I read (on a different site) that one of the employees slapped Bryan in public. Why???
I have met Bryan personally and he seems to be a serious guy. Have discussed with him in detail about what the system is doing and what he had in mind for the future - that is for the benefit of all us pipsters.
So what whent wrong - or should i say, who was it that put the spoke in the wheel?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Attard
That was posted by a person over at talkcr*p. This person lied and has been proven to be a liar in the past. He even got banned over there. That tells you what a loser he was to even be banned over there.
Can you tell me who you are refering as a liar ?? Who was banned? And banned where?
i do not thing our ROL will move in any way. During the freezing.It do not make any sense at all. All money have being freeze and that the truth. I think all our mod know about this.
Right now all we can do is to pray make petition and call the Ambassador to make thing faster.like gins.
If not any of this above just just continue your normal life if you cannot belive in anyone.
Why are you asking us?!? LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by rwaite
Yes wooopeeeee!!!!!!!!!!1:smile: :smile: :smile: