This thread is for positive threads only so I may be shouldn't write anything but just want to let you know BTI posted UPDATE last hour (available only for members).
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This thread is for positive threads only so I may be shouldn't write anything but just want to let you know BTI posted UPDATE last hour (available only for members).
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Originally Posted by adron
Good grief Adron, you really are busy pushin that post, arn't you?
Is that post important in the BTI forum? Is there something everybody else need to know about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shell
Regards,
SpirderMan
If it was true we would all need to know about it, if it is a lie we have better be protected against it..........Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderman23
Don't listen to those (BTI) that have another agenda, to (fill their own pockets.)
Let's wait for real news, from Bryan!
Keep the faith!
VP
Seconded. Stay calm and make love NOT war. It is a waste of energy if you talk to THEM.Quote:
Originally Posted by velvetpatches
Jet
If anybody is looking for new information, fresh update then my answer is YES. If you want rely only on rumours and speculation based on wishful thinking then my answer is NO.Quote:
Is there something everybody else need to know about?
I only said there is a new update, if you want read that or not it's your business and your choice. Simple.
The news at BTI IS from Bryan.
THAT is positive news because I am POSITIVE it came from Bryan himself.
I think some folks need a reality check here!
Bill
Adron is posting it because of the interest in people being informed. It isn't a negative update...or a positive one. It is just an honest asessment of where we are.
If you are a member, I suggest you check your emails and read it.
Bill
What? Don’t you call this rumours? How do we know that Bryan really talks to Billy?Quote:
Originally Posted by adron
We do not know it is from Bryan......Quote:
Originally Posted by bglong
You guys are confused perhaps, You're confusing me for sure!
You can't even decide if the post was from Bryan or not?!
So is it rumour or not?!
I would assume that if it was not SIGNED by Bryan then it's not from Bryan, it was rumour, and any forum that gets rumours is a bad source of info!
I suggest we all stop trying to find some hope to cling to. Assume the worse, assume you lost everything and if P1P5 ever comes to a healthy state then just rejoice!!!
Assume nothing and question everything!
I placed a lot of money in the system and have yet to see a return, if I can do it so can anyone come on!
Nothing and no one but TIME and only TIME will tell what happens. Live with it!
Sounds real enough to me,sorry guys. :(
The SLANDER and outright character assasination of IB on this forum AND the fantasy world Never Land atmosphere here is pathetic.
Billy has NEVER lied to us. He is a straight shooter. If Billy says Bryan called and talked to him, it happened.
HELLO!!! WAKE UP!
This denial, especially when what was said in the email is basically that we're waiting to see what happens, it absolutely astounding.
I am a firm believer in the honesty, integrity and abilities of Bryan. I am certainly rooting for him and Pips to come out clean. But as I hear what Bryan told Billy, it is obvious that the 'feel good" reports do not reflect reality.
It is riding on the bank and its investigation right now.
If you choose to not believe this, it is your choice. I for one appreciate knowing exactly where we are right now . This is not over, and I am hoping for the best possible outcome.
End,
Bill
No this is not over, but you said it yourself it is obvious that the 'feel good" reports do not reflect reality. It is riding on the bank and its investigation right now.
We all want PIPS to come through over here. It's just that ONLY TIME CAN TELL. No Billy, no Brian no Bank no Nair, no Nelsonlee no member of BTI... NO ONE!
I want facts! I will only consider my gamble on PIPS secure when te site is on and withdrawals moving like the wind!
So Bryan said we're waiting to see what happens? Cool, then I'll do the same thing I did yesterday and the day before. Work out, look for paying opp's, go to a few college classes, and enjoy my life away from specualtaing rumours that have absolutely no factual source.
When it happens it will happen - Good or bad! Some in here really need to find a hobby! :wink:
why dont you just tell us what was reported/////..........
A lot of you knows Billy from Convention and we know Billy know Bryan personally but can we say that on some members who claim they have very reliable sources ?Quote:
How do we know that Bryan really talks to Billy?
But ok how do we know that nair and few other Pipsters with very reliable sources really talks to Bryan or really reliable sources ?
stop teasing us and give us at least a summary of the damn post! i mean, what is this? a kindergarten class??? :evil:
Some of us also know that Warren/Gary and Bill are cooperating on getting a hold of PIPS's assets. NOOOO,not for themselves faaar from it!For the members of course. I'll believe it IF I see it.............Quote:
Originally Posted by adron
Do you really believe Bryan is only going to give info to Billy and gang ? So only the members of bti are updated ? And leave the rest of us in the dark ? Do you really believe that ?Quote:
Originally Posted by adron
It's obvious that Billy and gang have their own agenda. They are (mis)using pips members to get them to join their prefered programs, and they are making money on them. Now you have to pay 10 $/ month to be a member, easy money isn't it ? Do you want info on PIPS ? Sorry you'll have to become a member and you'll have to pay for it.
And I wonder for what purpose they are using that money.
I don't think a forum and mailing out a newsletter is that costly.
Oh, you KNOW that, do you? Mind telling us all who you heard that from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shell
I have no idea what Gary and Waren are doing. But Billy is NOT involved in what you are talking about.
Anyway, step up to the plate here. WHO is the SOURCE?
Bill
I dont mind waiting in the least. In fact I am quite conditioned now :wink:
What I am not conditioned to accept is the information channel from P*Ps itself that seems to go to a select few and leaves the rest of the membership to survive on rumour, scaremongery, and doctored so called official updates. Its not something new, we have had almost a year of this secrecy, and despite protests on the old forum, it is still going on.
Little wonder then that we no longer believe anything from any source.
Little wonder that any news is chewed and shredded, distorted and tattered before a bewildered membership.
I dont remember buying a used ticket into P*Ps.
paddy
It was in Billy's update, you muppet! :oQuote:
Originally Posted by bglong
If you read Billy's update, then you are worse than a Muppet. You are an outright liar! In fact he asked the rhetorical question and categorially expressed he wanted nothing to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shell
By the way, Gary and Warren's names did not come into the statement either.
So, Shell, if you are lying about this, what else are you lying about?
I am finished with this. It is obvious that when a moderator on this forum is either so blindfolded that he/she can't see the nose on his/her face, or is telling outright lies, then the whole forum is subjected to being opressed by la la land refugees.
It's pretty bad when someone must lie to make their point. It is at that juncture that you have rid yourself of me. But forum...be warned... the info that is being shared here is dishonest and cannot be trusted. Until this moderator is demoted, there is nothing posted here that should be taken at face value.
From now on, just a reader,
Bill
Bill "categorically expressed he wanted nothing to do with it." Yes, but are we to believe that when he has such close relationship with G and W ?
Their names were not mentioned in the same paragraph as the "restructuring" and "A rescue attempt with a new management Team?," but we have brains and we can use them............
If you only want to read, that’s fine by me, but do not call me a liar........
What is worst, a liar or a muppet :?
I am not a liar. Do you want to read Billy's update?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2005
Shell,Quote:
Originally Posted by Shell
I am a member of all the forums that includes PIPS business (public and private) :wink:
BTW
I am not in jail :lol:
I am glad to hear that :D
Are you trying to imply that you are Bryan M.?????Quote:
Originally Posted by 2005
sounds like it to me :wink: Thanks for stopping by 2005!
Hello 2005.
If you are a member on all the forums, and if you are Bryan, then you are fully aware of Billy's update and how it dropped the floor out from the Pips membership and you only post that you are not in jail! Come on! Whoever you are, don't post this kind of inanity; if you are who you are implying, then speak out like a man and give some real substance to your posts. Otherwise, don't post and do whatever you've been doing on all these forum watching good people of the Pips membership writhe in agony over their lost hopes and dreams. Wake up to the reality of being a human.
thelema
I've read Billy's last update several times. Obviously, he sides with Bryan's enemies, and concludes that "they" have a better chance to bring Pips forward than Bryan does.
So it sounds a lot like Billy is listening to Bryan's detractors.
He doesn't say he "wants no part of it" (a take over) he says, does he plan to be one of the "new" management team! NO! That doesn't mean he hasn't been involved in the planning of a takeover, just that he doesn't plan to be on the "new management team."
I find almost the entire update to be pure speculation, based on what all the players are saying combined. Of course, Billy seems to know what moves Bryan's enemies plan to take, and have done to bring down Bryan.
Obviously, none of them know what the bank will decide or what they've actually found.
The only parts of the message that I thought sounded like it "might" have come from Bryan was that the Bank has things tied up and it might take a couple months to find out what the Bank intends to do in terms of releasing funds.
And, that Bryan doesn't want members to waste their time or money to go there, because he has no control over things at this time, though he is cooperating with the Bank. And, Bryan will report to us as soon as he can, Bryan will do everything possible to have PIPS survive.
If you take what might have been said by Bryan, it doesn't sound like a bad report.
If you listen to the rest of Billy's speculation and injecting what Bryan's enemies plan and think it is possible to steal someone's company from them, then, you come to Billy's conlusions, which are self-serving, imo given his want to grow his membership.
We need to listen to Bryan, not those that want to destroy him.
VP
velvetpatches
Your post is repeated three times. You need to watch your button.
Besides that I like your post.
Go Bryan!! We are with you!
ok, hopefully this is the last duplicate. :) My apologies!
VP
Seems like everyone is reading this thread so I'll repost my previous request here. Maybe I'll get an answer
Hi,
Will someone please point me to Rex's long post that someone posted to this forum over the weekend.
Thanks a lot,
Ray
Ray check your first post, I've found some links for you hope they help.
Will Work For Food
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Originally Posted by velvetpatches
Wow Velvet, you are spot on. These were my comments in the BTI forum today:
Yes, things do not add up.
Billy knows the people who wrote the letter to BON, but has not given us that important information.
When Tex went to Malaysia about a month ago he went on behalf of a "special group" and did not give BTI any update. Billy has this key information but has not shared it.
Who are the big players involved in the Credit Union that we don't see.
Why is Billy getting most of his info from Gary, Warren and the people who wrote the letter to BON?
Why is Bryan giving information to Billy that we already know?
The update reveals a lot about the chess game that is going on behind the scenes.
Makes me go, hmmmmmm
Bryan, knows what he is doing.
A week ago, I questioned Billy and Tex's motives over at BTI and I got flamed and posts got deleted. Now, the mood seems to be changing.
:lol:
The way this whole PIPS ordeal is unraveling is mind boggling. I am now 100% convinced that there is MUCH more to this story than whether PIPS is a scam or legitimate business. This is like reading a good book, but someone ripped out the last chapter and I can't see the end....lol.
This goes beyond money for me now....I have to know the truth. :x