What are guidelines for locking threads?

As respectfully as I can ask,

What exactly are the guidelines for closing a thread?
It seems like when the balance of posts are negative, the thread just gets closed, and falls by the wayside.

If this is to be an impartial forum about information concerning PIPs, and as long as posts are not rude (from either side), then why lock threads, based on a judgement of being boring? I feel you have to consider if it is boring to everyone, or just those with the ability to lock posts.

The whole PIPs situation is getting more tense everyday. To try and hide one side of the fence's views here is not going to make it any more livable, or bearable.

People are screaming for info. I feel that they should have the right to see what everyone is feeling, both good and bad.

Drgibble,
It appears to me ,from your posts ,that you are a very logical thinker.I wish I could answer your questions but the answers and reasons why threads are locked belong to the mods.From my observations I did noticed a pattern or if you prefer underlying rules that will prevent a thread from being locked.
rule #1 : Always end your post by I believe in PIPS and ....
rule #2 : Never question the validity of the info you receive here.....
rule#3 : Never complain or whine about your money........
rule #4 : Be patient and be willing to wait forever besides what else can you do........
rule #5 : Participate willingly and joyfully in any new program thats come along.......
rule #6 : Somebody has your best interests at heart .You dont know anything about investments. leave the details to the professionals.If you make money fine if not see rule #1.

Finally you got question that could be answered.

1. No personal or indirect attack or critic type questions to Bryan and or Pips.

2. No questions outside guidelines provided by Bryan in his post.

3. No speculation stories that does not have any logical connection to Pips business.

4. No personal attack to any forum member.

5. No copy and paste article from other unconfirmed and illegal source's.
If any, first to be approved by Mods or Forum Admin.

Well, that is basically I have and Mods can add or remove if required.

We are all in Pips for same reason. To make money and help charity.
This business did put us together and we have obligation to protect pips business for interest to all. Individual ago is not welcome since destroys integrity of Pips business.

Love each other( as we did in old Pips forum) and try help each other.

This is only way we will succeeded.

Well put together.

I couldn't put it better myself.

Besides breaking forum rules...The long and short of it is, "It depends..." It depends on many different reasons and each is taken on a case by case basis. There have been, and are currently, many threads that are of a "negative" standpoint that will go on or have gone on to die natural deaths (i.e. obscurity) and never get closed. Overall, however, most of the negative threads descend into a chaos of threats, posturing, foul language, and other less-than-favorable interaction. More often than not, this is why they get closed. By and large, more of the people on this forum wish to see verifiable information and participate in "positive" discourse, therefore, unsubstantiated negative information gets canned. Meanwhile, the positive posts end up having a longer shelf-life than negative posts because they stay polite and socially unobjectionable and therefore do not require the same moderator attention that negative posts require.

I'm sure there are more reasons but these are some that were on the top of my head...

Everwiser

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Originally Posted by drgibble

As respectfully as I can ask,

What exactly are the guidelines for closing a thread?
It seems like when the balance of posts are negative, the thread just gets closed, and falls by the wayside.

If this is to be an impartial forum about information concerning PIPs, and as long as posts are not rude (from either side), then why lock threads, based on a judgement of being boring? I feel you have to consider if it is boring to everyone, or just those with the ability to lock posts.

The whole PIPs situation is getting more tense everyday. To try and hide one side of the fence's views here is not going to make it any more livable, or bearable.

People are screaming for info. I feel that they should have the right to see what everyone is feeling, both good and bad.

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Hawk,

Everything you said makes alot of sense. I agree.

I'll be the first to admit that the tension gets too high at times, which causes "above average negative responses".

I really do like the idea of PIPs. Chance to make some bucks, and chance to do some good. Shoot, I had the same dreamsas the rest for months after joining. Dreamed about giving all my family nice big juicy Xmas presents (pleae, noone get on me for mentioning the Xmas word - it's been played to death). Dreamed about doing "random acts of kindness" to folks that would be flabergasted at getting an unsuspected gift from a total stranger.

Maybe some PIPs members were able to do this in past, before "the end of the world" struck.

Myself, my brother, and a good friend of mine were not able to. Ya gotta admit, it's tough to swallow after so long a period, and so little action from PIPs.

I won't go so far as to say I will practice more patience, but I will say that I'll practice more civility pertaining to posting negative.

There are a few posters that I'd like to take one last shot at, but I ain't gonna do it What's the point?

What I am going to do, is say "The H... with it", shut my store about 3:00pm tomorrow, and go fishing - a rare treat for me, being open 7 days a week.

So, I guess I'd ask the folks that in the past have received some compensation from (still don't know what to call it) PIPs involvement. to try and exercise a wee bit more (here it comes, the dreaded "P" word) patience with those of us that have never.

Thank you drgibble..... enjoy your day, I hope you catch a lunker....:tongue:

SM,

I'd rather get two 15" trout, and maybe a bass, and maybe later at the bar................................

Actually, I'll be more than happy just for the time off, but 1 outta three wouldn't be bad.

Actually, I don't hang out in bars, just buy my bottle of Carlo Rossi Paisano, and hit the ol' recliner. The simple things in life.

Don't know if this allowed, and I don't make money from it, unless you consider $300 after 5 years money, but here's my website address that I set up when contemplating a life of writing (notice future book dates). Hey, but I did it once (no charge - seemed pretty vain to me).

drgibble.tripod.com


Later

wow! drgibble, I'm impressed! They all look like great reading.... but A Dog's Tales.... would be my first choice! :tongue:
Hey luckydog... you should check it out!

SM,

Now you know, that mice never get along with dogs (or cats).

Actually, one of these days I AM gonna finish the "One Dog's Tales". I thought it would be a great spin - an old bum and a dog in Central Park - from the dog's point of view. And by the way, the dog doesn't have troll horns either!! (jockularity, jockularity).

Have a good day, and hey, thanks for looking at my want-to-be author site.

Not being a TG Troll is always a good start for not having threads locked, I always find......... ooops :)

Well, I'm not one, pluggy, but thanks for the advise.

I also post at your forum. But, for the past few weeks all that it's about is a pissing contest between some wanna be's, and what's amazing is that alot of them say they never invested/loaned PIPs money in the first place. So, go figure. I can see being "passionate" about a subject, but ya just don't pick one out of the phone book to do it. Not very informative, or useful, IMHO.

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Originally Posted by drgibble

Well, I'm not one, pluggy, but thanks for the advise.

I also post at your forum. But, for the past few weeks all that it's about is a pissing contest between some wanna be's, and what's amazing is that alot of them say they never invested/loaned PIPs money in the first place. So, go figure. I can see being "passionate" about a subject, but ya just don't pick one out of the phone book to do it. Not very informative, or useful, IMHO.

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Seeyoujimmy?where are you?

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Originally Posted by drgibble

SM,

Now you know, that mice never get along with dogs (or cats).

Actually, one of these days I AM gonna finish the "One Dog's Tales". I thought it would be a great spin - an old bum and a dog in Central Park - from the dog's point of view. And by the way, the dog doesn't have troll horns either!! (jockularity, jockularity).

Have a good day, and hey, thanks for looking at my want-to-be author site.

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ohhh.. I wish you would... finish it. I'd be at the front of the line for a copy.... signed maybe? :redface: I'd like to encourage you. From what I read, you are a very tallented writer!
.... a happy ending is always nice (just a suggestion). :tongue:

SM,

Well, to tell you the truth, I had this wild thought last year to invest in a 2% interest program (names been beat to death already). That way I could take a year off and write. Oh well, the laid plans..............

Good day Senor Drgibble
I posted something for you to take a look at, last night:
http://www.rolclub.com/showthread.php?t=5397
Now I dont know how or if CAPITAL INVESTMENT still comes under that original guarantee as per the message and original PIPs website.
Its an interesting speculation :)
Regards
paddy

Good day Senor paddyfield,

I read the post you refered to, but could not figure out what an April, 2003 advertisement for PI had to do with much of anything, as of Jan, 2006.

Maybe it's me, but I couldn't see any relevance. The only involvement I had with Pips 2% program started in March, 2005 (too bad for me).

Well, dr... I'm glad you posted that link... as so often it's enlightning to be allowed a look at the man behind :). Nice idea btw... at 'Snap Decisions'. You know, personally I'm learning from several people to focus more on the goal I want to achieve then the means... leaving it to the subconscious & ... how I'll eventually get there. And... if I remember it right... in a newpaper article about scientific research on decisions (which compared the satisfaction afterwards of people who had been choosing houses on a 'quick pick/gut feeling' basis or a 'putting all arguments in a line, balance, decide' basis), they found out too that our subconscience (sometimes aka gut feeling) is capable to process much more information than we consciously can... what may be a reason to (at least try to learn to) use & trust that gut feeling/intuition/... more than (at least) we have learned at school :)... as it often proves right. I hope this (your talents... nature/fishing,...) will give you a lot of satisfaction... Take care, Hasse

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Originally Posted by drgibble

As respectfully as I can ask,

What exactly are the guidelines for closing a thread?
It seems like when the balance of posts are negative, the thread just gets closed, and falls by the wayside.

If this is to be an impartial forum about information concerning PIPs, and as long as posts are not rude (from either side), then why lock threads, based on a judgement of being boring? I feel you have to consider if it is boring to everyone, or just those with the ability to lock posts.

The whole PIPs situation is getting more tense everyday. To try and hide one side of the fence's views here is not going to make it any more livable, or bearable.

People are screaming for info. I feel that they should have the right to see what everyone is feeling, both good and bad.

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-Do not question anything BM says
-be happy that we have no answer to our questions
-get your pom pom and be a cheerleader with blind faith in BM

Things are looking up, no teeth or scorch marks after 24 hours on rolclub.......

A new record

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_6_5.gif We just look docile.




We got a little Mouse in here that will chew a cat's whiskers off. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/16/16_3_105.gif

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Things are looking up, no teeth or scorch marks after 24 hours on rolclub.......

A new record

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mama told me to play nice....
and the valium helps too :noserious

OOPs! There she is! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_6_213.gif

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Originally Posted by luckydog

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_6_5.gif We just look docile.
We got a little Mouse in here that will chew a cat's whiskers off. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/16/16_3_105.gif

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I really dislike a bad cat-itude :fryingpan

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_17_201.gif Go get em Mouse!

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_33_9.gif .... ok! stand back everybody!!!

(YAY! I have super smileys on my computer at work!)

(my boss will be so proud)

Yea...........aaaa! The Mouse and the Dog, a double threat!

Sounds like a Disney Movie. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_22_14.gif

The point, Senor Drgibble, is in these few paragraphs....

WE DO HOWEVER ENCOURAGE MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE IN PI'S
INVESTMENT PROGRAMS, AS THEY ARE FORMIDABLY SECURE IN THAT ALL
FUNDS ARE PROTECTED BY THE PI, MALAYSIAN GOVERNMENT LICENSED
TRUST ACCOUNT. FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT YET KNOW IT, MALAYSIA IS
THE LEADING ASIAN COUNTRY IN INTERNATIONAL ECONOMICAL COMMERCE
INFRASTRUCTURE.


THIS MEANS THAT NO ONE CAN STEAL YOUR INVESTMENT CAPITAL, AS IS
OFTEN THE CASE WITH UNLICENSED OR NON-GOVERNMENT REGULATED
INVESTMENT PROGRAMS. THE RISKS ARE THE USUAL UPS AND DOWNS OF
TRADING, SO LEARN TO OPERATE IN SUCH PROGRAMS SAFELY.


IN THE 2% PROGRAM, YOUR INVESTMENT WILL BE TIED UP FOR 180 DAYS,
BUT YOU CAN WITHDRAW YOUR PROFITS WEEKLY. THIS ENABLES YOU TO
RECOUP THE AMOUNT YOU INITIALLY INVESTED AND THEN LET PROFITS
CONTINUE EARNING.


YOU CAN ALSO REINVEST YOUR PROFITS TO INCREASE THE PRINCIPLE
INVESTMENT AND EARN COMPOUND INTEREST. TO ADD YOUR PROFITS, YOU
NEED TO SEE "AVAILABLE FUNDS" IN YOUR MEMBERS AREA AND REINVEST
THE AMOUNTS YOU WANT ADDED TO THE 2% PROGRAM FROM THERE.

Bryan has talked about this fund before, and how much it costs PI to cover an increasing investment base. You see, if the Malaysian Government have not seen a default in the said trust, then those funds must still be around, dont you think. If that is so, as investors building on our Capital Loan, underwritten by a trust with Protection from the Malayian Government itself, is it not possible we are still "in the money", and the "cause" which has brought an abrupt halt to the programme itself, is not investment or capital related??
paddy

Paddfield, I agree with your logic. The problem is that we only have Bryan's word that the 4 paragraphs you quoted are actually true. The Malaysian government may not have seen a default in the trust because the trust may not exist.

Gus

gusperry,

A very sound insight. All the laws governing investments/loans don't apply for squat if in fact none were being accomplished to begin with.




Hasse,

Thanks for the encouragement. I for one don't mind telling people who I actually am. Same user name everywhere, same person.

I trust you're aware that the free version of Smiley Central is merely a carrier for their spyware ?. They sell a paid for version (30 bucks I believe) without the spyware.

Nullum gratuitum prandium. (No free lunch)......

Shell is doing excellent job. She should be even harder in many cases.

She is too good to many posters that should not be here let alone to post.

Well, she is doing the best she can.

Thank you Shell

Look at the last two posts in this thread before you decide if you really want to be a mod on a HYIP forum :)

I find it funny that the OP has since been banned (never mind a locked thread) ... same thing happened to another account I had after ONE post - no swearing, attacking ppl or anything .. just wasn't raising my pom poms ... guess I'll just read quietly this time :sads:

If you are banned you just don't go signing up again.....